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| | | Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | Mar 21, 2020 07:02 | | Subject: | Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have bought these two sets. Both boxes are opened but
The content of set
is certainly new. All parts are loose in the box and there is no instruciotns
or paper work.
The content of set
is new and almost all parts are in sealed bag but few parts are loose in the
box. I believe this copy was produced around the time TLG decided to put parts
in sealed bags. There were no instructions or paper work inside the box. I checked
the parts in 1050-2 and found some differences with its inventory on Bricklink.
There are few theories and what I think about them:
1) Few parts are taken out of the box: Most parts in set 1050-2 are in sealed
bag and only few parts are loose. Most these parts are big but there are fewer
smaller parts that are in general packed in bags. The boxes were full, so full
that I don't think any part was taken out or was added. In theory, it
is possible that one or two parts were taken out or in, but this is not likely
at all.
2) Some parts between the two boxes were mingled: based on the differences of
my copy 1050-2 with its current inventory and the parts that are loose in box
1045-2, this is impossible.
3) The contents of set 1050-2 is original, true and original.
I believe the content of my copy 1050-2 is original for the following reasons:
1) there are many consistency in how the differences appear. See below for more
details.
2) Some parts in the inventory of 1050-2 on BL does not match the box art but
the parts in my copy have them in colors that appear on the box art.
Here are the differences:
The following parts are entirely missing in my copy:
6 of
6 of
1 of
6 of
1 of
1 of
The quantity of the following parts are different. See the quantities in my copy:
2 of
4 of
2 of
* | | 792c03 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arms (792 / 793 / 795) (Homemaker Figure / Maxifigure Torso Assembly)
Parts: Arm {Blue} |
assembled with 4 of
and arms and hands
4 of
* | | 792c03 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arms (792 / 793 / 795) (Homemaker Figure / Maxifigure Torso Assembly)
Parts: Arm {Red} |
assembled with 4 of
and arms and hands.
19 of
19 of
60 of
12 of
6 of
4 of
25 of
25 of
12 of
(with transparent bottom and transparent internal tubes)
4 of
5 of
6 of
18 of
4 of
4 of
8 of
3 of
6 of
24 of
17 of
70 of
19 of
So the quantities of wheels, wheel-holders and tires match in my copy. The color
of doors and door-frames match with those appearing on the box art.
I have no idea what the purpose of these sets were and how kids were supposed
to play with the parts if they were no instructions. Were the quantity and colors
of some parts different depending on the production run.
Please let me know if I can submit these changes (if so, as regular or alternate?)
May I do the inventory of
[p=1045-2]
? For this one, we can be more confident since most parts are in sealed bags.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 21, 2020 10:54 | | Subject: | Re: Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | I checked the parts in 1050-2 and found some differences with its inventory on Bricklink.
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That set has no inventory on BrickLink, so it was impossible for you to find
any differences between your set and BrickLink's inventory.
| | Some parts between the two boxes were mingled
The contents of set 1050-2 is original, true and original.
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No, the contents of your set are not true and original. Your statements are
self-contradictory.
| | Please let me know if I can submit these changes (if so, as regular or alternate?)
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You cannot change an inventory that does not exist.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Mar 21, 2020 17:18 | | Subject: | Re: Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | I checked the parts in 1050-2 and found some differences with its inventory on Bricklink.
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That set has no inventory on BrickLink, so it was impossible for you to find
any differences between your set and BrickLink's inventory.
| | Some parts between the two boxes were mingled
The contents of set 1050-2 is original, true and original.
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No, the contents of your set are not true and original. Your statements are
self-contradictory.
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What parts are self-contradictory?
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| | Please let me know if I can submit these changes (if so, as regular or alternate?)
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You cannot change an inventory that does not exist.
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Obviously I meant 1045-2. You certainly realized I meant 1045-2 and this was
nothing but a typo, so, I am not sure what you mean.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 21, 2020 19:48 | | Subject: | Re: Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | What parts are self-contradictory?
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I was confused on this. I can see when I reread your post that you were presenting
a series of different possibilities, instead of one idea backed up by three facts
as I originally read your post. So ignore what I said here.
| | Obviously I meant 1045-2. You certainly realized I meant 1045-2 and this was
nothing but a typo
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No, I genuinely didn't realize that you made this error. You referred to
Set 1050 six different times, interchanged with references to Set 1045, and I
read the post as you wrote it.
However, to move beyond confusion and typographical errors to address the primary
question you asked: should you submit an inventory or inventory change requests
for these sets? I would say submit whatever you're certain of. Educational
sets are a little different from other sets, but the same basic inventory principles
apply.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2020 06:33 | | Subject: | Re: Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | What parts are self-contradictory?
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I was confused on this. I can see when I reread your post that you were presenting
a series of different possibilities, instead of one idea backed up by three facts
as I originally read your post. So ignore what I said here.
No, the contents of your set are not true and original. Your statements are
self-contradictory.
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It took me significant efforts to buy these two sets from overseas, convince
the seller to ship them and buy for him a shipping label. It also took me few
hours to check the contents of the two sets and find the differences with the
inventory on BL. I did them for these two sets because it is very hard to find
them in new condition.
Overall I considered all possibilities and so I believe that the contents are
new and original.
I am not sure why you undermine my efforts by giving a one-line proposition that
the contents of my sets are not true and original. Have you seen any photos of
them? The majority of parts in one set are in sealed bags. Based on what facts
did you decide that the content is not true and original?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2020 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | Based on what facts
did you decide that the content is not true and original?
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Your original post confused me because of the way you worded it. Once I reread
it a couple of times carefully, then I understood what you were trying to say.
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2022 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: Sets 1045-2 and 1050-2 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | I have bought these two sets. Both boxes are opened but
The content of set
is certainly new. All parts are loose in the box and there is no instruciotns
or paper work.
The content of set
is new and almost all parts are in sealed bag but few parts are loose in the
box. I believe this copy was produced around the time TLG decided to put parts
in sealed bags. There were no instructions or paper work inside the box. I checked
the parts in 1050-2 and found some differences with its inventory on Bricklink.
There are few theories and what I think about them:
1) Few parts are taken out of the box: Most parts in set 1050-2 are in sealed
bag and only few parts are loose. Most these parts are big but there are fewer
smaller parts that are in general packed in bags. The boxes were full, so full
that I don't think any part was taken out or was added. In theory, it
is possible that one or two parts were taken out or in, but this is not likely
at all.
2) Some parts between the two boxes were mingled: based on the differences of
my copy 1050-2 with its current inventory and the parts that are loose in box
1045-2, this is impossible.
3) The contents of set 1050-2 is original, true and original.
I believe the content of my copy 1050-2 is original for the following reasons:
1) there are many consistency in how the differences appear. See below for more
details.
2) Some parts in the inventory of 1050-2 on BL does not match the box art but
the parts in my copy have them in colors that appear on the box art.
Here are the differences:
The following parts are entirely missing in my copy:
6 of
6 of
1 of
6 of
1 of
1 of
The quantity of the following parts are different. See the quantities in my copy:
2 of
4 of
2 of
* | | 792c03 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arms (792 / 793 / 795) (Homemaker Figure / Maxifigure Torso Assembly)
Parts: Arm {Blue} |
assembled with 4 of
and arms and hands
4 of
* | | 792c03 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arms (792 / 793 / 795) (Homemaker Figure / Maxifigure Torso Assembly)
Parts: Arm {Red} |
assembled with 4 of
and arms and hands.
19 of
19 of
60 of
12 of
6 of
4 of
25 of
25 of
12 of
(with transparent bottom and transparent internal tubes)
4 of
5 of
6 of
18 of
4 of
4 of
8 of
3 of
6 of
24 of
17 of
70 of
19 of
So the quantities of wheels, wheel-holders and tires match in my copy. The color
of doors and door-frames match with those appearing on the box art.
I have no idea what the purpose of these sets were and how kids were supposed
to play with the parts if they were no instructions. Were the quantity and colors
of some parts different depending on the production run.
Please let me know if I can submit these changes (if so, as regular or alternate?)
May I do the inventory of
[p=1045-2]
? For this one, we can be more confident since most parts are in sealed bags.
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Diana,
have you seen this thread? I still have the sets.
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Canada, British Columbia
USA, Oklahoma