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 Author: anathema View Messages Posted By anathema
 Posted: Feb 29, 2020 07:23
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Feb 29, 2020 08:20
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions

It's probably this part, since rim and wheel usually came together at this
point in time:
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}

See here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159848
 Author: anathema View Messages Posted By anathema
 Posted: Feb 29, 2020 12:49
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions

It's probably this part, since rim and wheel usually came together at this
point in time:
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}

See here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159848

Are we sure? I'd have said there was a considerable difference between two
parts coming pre-assembled, and an entire model coming ready-built

Do we know for a fact that the wheel+tyre came like that in other sets?
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Feb 29, 2020 18:26
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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SezaR (1383)

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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions

It's probably this part, since rim and wheel usually came together at this
point in time:
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}

See here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159848

Please hold on making any change to this inventory. I am about to find out more
about trainrims.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: May 14, 2020 18:55
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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SezaR (1383)

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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions

It's probably this part, since rim and wheel usually came together at this
point in time:
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}

See here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159848

This set is from 1976 and I know the sets such as
 
Set No: 183  Name: Complete Train Set with Motor and Signal
* 
183-1 (Inv) Complete Train Set with Motor and Signal
183 Parts, 1976
Sets: Train: 4.5V
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V
came with
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}
but later releases of
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V
and all 12v train sets such as
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V
 
Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
* 
7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V
came with trainrims separate from train wheels.
So we know that this set 396-1 came with
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}
but it is possible that later releases came with
 
Part No: wheel2a  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
* 
wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
Parts: Wheel {Black}
not pre-assembled
 
Part No: trainrim  Name: Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* 
trainrim Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread {Black}

I will upload more photos for this inventory change request for 162-1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1185970
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 03:16
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions

It's probably this part, since rim and wheel usually came together at this
point in time:
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}

See here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159848

This set is from 1976 and I know the sets such as
 
Set No: 183  Name: Complete Train Set with Motor and Signal
* 
183-1 (Inv) Complete Train Set with Motor and Signal
183 Parts, 1976
Sets: Train: 4.5V
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V
came with
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}
but later releases of
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V

Correction:
The 12v train sets such as
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V
 
Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
* 
7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V
came first trainrims assembled to train wheels.
The trainsrims were separate from middle wheels
 
Part No: bb0012v2  Name: Train Wheel, Middle Wheel for 12V Motor
* 
bb0012v2 Train Wheel, Middle Wheel for 12V Motor
Parts: Wheel
since late 1980, but still assembled to all four wheels of
[s=bb0012va]
Later (1981? 1982?) all trainrims came loose in any 12v or 4.5v train.

  So we know that this set 396-1 came with
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}
but it is possible that later releases came with
 
Part No: wheel2a  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
* 
wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
Parts: Wheel {Black}

I would not this is not likely.

  not pre-assembled
 
Part No: trainrim  Name: Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* 
trainrim Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread {Black}

I will upload more photos for this inventory change request for 162-1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1185970