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 Author: tpr View Messages Posted By tpr
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 07:48
 Subject: PUT COLOURS BACK & DISCUSS WITH LEGO
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tpr (8635)

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Hi

For now as we have more changes in discussion, can't we put the colours back
to how they were. I'm sure a few more days/weeks of flesh isn't going
to hurt us.

Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

tpr
 Author: constructibles View Messages Posted By constructibles
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 09:44
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In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Hi

For now as we have more changes in discussion, can't we put the colours back
to how they were. I'm sure a few more days/weeks of flesh isn't going
to hurt us.

Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

tpr

Russell is a LEGO employee now, so would you like him to talk to himself?

Kidding aside, who exactly would you like him to discuss it with? BL reports
in under Julia, and Julia has been deferring to Russell on community-specific
decisions. The AFOLET also falls under Julia, but they are AFOL experts, not
BL historians. There isn't a single person establishing the vision for the
future (which is a whole different discussion topic).

I'm supportive of this change because its logical. I don't think BL
should change all names to match (imagine the chaos of green vs dark green).
I like the suggestion that TLG start using the more logical BL color names,
at least informally.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 10:09
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In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

It is hard for me to imagine that Lego would say, "No, don't use our color
names. Those are for us. You should use those others."
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 11:26
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In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

You sound like at this point you're willing to give up BrickLink's independence
for the opportunity to be ruled by the LEGO Group.

And yet in another message you don't seem to be fond of the idea of losing
BrickLink's ability to make independent decisions:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1167399

As for what they would say, the new color names are mostly TLG's own. What
do you think they're going to say?

As for

  What they say will be correct !!

Do you genuinely believe that TLG is incapable of making mistakes? Are we to
now believe that every word they say is gospel and not to be questioned?

Look, I understand disagreeing with decisions. And clearly you disagree with
this decision. But I encourage you to retain your rationality.
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 12:35
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In Catalog, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

You sound like at this point you're willing to give up BrickLink's independence
for the opportunity to be ruled by the LEGO Group.

And yet in another message you don't seem to be fond of the idea of losing
BrickLink's ability to make independent decisions:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1167399

As for what they would say, the new color names are mostly TLG's own. What
do you think they're going to say?

As for

  What they say will be correct !!

Do you genuinely believe that TLG is incapable of making mistakes? Are we to
now believe that every word they say is gospel and not to be questioned?

Look, I understand disagreeing with decisions. And clearly you disagree with
this decision. But I encourage you to retain your rationality.


There are two aspects to be considered in this color business: 1) useful and
meaningful choice of color names, and 2) consistency between different platforms
(which makes life easier for everybody, buyers and sellers).

I do not care as much for 1) as I do care for 2). The recent change has removed
some discrepancies between Lego.com and BL, but I am not sure what other platforms
will be doing. One should simply settle for any standard naming set (and I seriously
do not care which one it is) and then use it consistently on all platforms.

For obvious reasons TLG will not change their current color names. We are talking
about a company which operates on a global level and has production streams that
are distributed all over the world. Just think what happens if some color names
are suddenly changed to any of these production streams. This is simply impossible.

It is important to face realities and think about what would be the best for
the majority of BL users (sellers and buyers alike) in the long term. BL is not
some backyard garage run website project any more, but part of a globally operating
company.

As someone nicely stated it already: TLG is the manufacturer and they decide
how their product is called as long as they can sell it.
 Author: pitz8008 View Messages Posted By pitz8008
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 12:42
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In Catalog, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

You sound like at this point you're willing to give up BrickLink's independence
for the opportunity to be ruled by the LEGO Group.

And yet in another message you don't seem to be fond of the idea of losing
BrickLink's ability to make independent decisions:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1167399

As for what they would say, the new color names are mostly TLG's own. What
do you think they're going to say?

As for

  What they say will be correct !!

Do you genuinely believe that TLG is incapable of making mistakes? Are we to
now believe that every word they say is gospel and not to be questioned?

Look, I understand disagreeing with decisions. And clearly you disagree with
this decision. But I encourage you to retain your rationality.


I'd rather give up my independence to Lego than to you.
 Author: pikachu3 View Messages Posted By pikachu3
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 12:56
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In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Hi

For now as we have more changes in discussion, can't we put the colours back
to how they were. I'm sure a few more days/weeks of flesh isn't going
to hurt us.

Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

tpr

Trust me, you don't want this. Lego colors don't match up with BrickLink
colors one-to-one; BrickLink has consolidated several colors to make it sensible
for buyers and sellers. Do you really want to have to separate your Cool Silver
parts from your Silver (pearl light gray)? Or call chrome silver and metallic
silver both Silver Ink?
 
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Feb 2, 2020 14:01
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In Catalog, pikachu3 writes:
  In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Hi

For now as we have more changes in discussion, can't we put the colours back
to how they were. I'm sure a few more days/weeks of flesh isn't going
to hurt us.

Then discuss with the Lego Company regarding changing all colours to their colours
- we are part of their group. What they say will be correct !!

tpr

Trust me, you don't want this. Lego colors don't match up with BrickLink
colors one-to-one; BrickLink has consolidated several colors to make it sensible
for buyers and sellers. Do you really want to have to separate your Cool Silver
parts from your Silver (pearl light gray)? Or call chrome silver and metallic
silver both Silver Ink?


oh man, that picture gives me a migraine.


I'll learn all this "new" stuff because I have to, but I really would rather
not.