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 Author: Erikmax View Messages Posted By Erikmax
 Posted: Jan 29, 2020 09:16
 Subject: Address fields require clear labels
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Erikmax (12152)

Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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From 1/1-2020 it is no longer possible to ship goods internationally in a letter
by PostNL. There has been a lot about this in this forum.

Professional dealers can still ship at a special rate using the online system.

But this online system requires filling in fields ´very strictly´ so street,
number, extra number, region, city, postcode.

We used to copypaste BL adresses, annd expected the local post to make the right
interpretation. But this is no longer possible.

Especially Asian adresses (S.Korea,Taiwan,Japan, China, Hong Kong) now gives
some questions, because it is not allways clear ´what is what´. Japanese addresses
come in the opposite order, sometimes there is as name or number, appartment
names and numbers that can be mixed up with a streetname, and there is the problem
that numbers come before streetnames on the label- streetnumbers are printed
AFTER the streetname. In many adresses it looks that things are mentioned twice,
but possible name of city and region are the same.

More postal administrations will adopt this new system thatis required by UPU,
(countries like USA will no longer accept and may even destroy shipments without
'prior notice of content', that's what postNL tells us) so this problem
would grow in the future.

In fact this requires a new way to display adresses ( "WITH LABEL") on brickink
to avoid `wrong` or incomplete adresses to be used.

Even more important because the lines on this label is limited and unneccesary
information pushes out important information from the line.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jan 29, 2020 09:46
 Subject: Re: Address fields require clear labels
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Teup (6595)

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In Suggestions, Erikmax writes:
  From 1/1-2020 it is no longer possible to ship goods internationally in a letter
by PostNL. There has been a lot about this in this forum.

Professional dealers can still ship at a special rate using the online system.

But this online system requires filling in fields ´very strictly´ so street,
number, extra number, region, city, postcode.

We used to copypaste BL adresses, annd expected the local post to make the right
interpretation. But this is no longer possible.

Especially Asian adresses (S.Korea,Taiwan,Japan, China, Hong Kong) now gives
some questions, because it is not allways clear ´what is what´. Japanese addresses
come in the opposite order, sometimes there is as name or number, appartment
names and numbers that can be mixed up with a streetname, and there is the problem
that numbers come before streetnames on the label- streetnumbers are printed
AFTER the streetname. In many adresses it looks that things are mentioned twice,
but possible name of city and region are the same.

More postal administrations will adopt this new system thatis required by UPU,
(countries like USA will no longer accept and may even destroy shipments without
'prior notice of content', that's what postNL tells us) so this problem
would grow in the future.

In fact this requires a new way to display adresses ( "WITH LABEL") on brickink
to avoid `wrong` or incomplete adresses to be used.

Even more important because the lines on this label is limited and unneccesary
information pushes out important information from the line.

+1

It's good for two reasons - first to avoid mistakes as you describe, and
secondly, sellers automate the process in their own software, either with the
API or with CSV/Excel uploads. I want to do that too, but my software will only
be able to generate the right data if it in fact is told what is what. It saves
a significant amount of time doing it automated, but without clear fields, the
only way to do it is manually as it requires human common sense..

I'm sure it would be useful for more sellers than just the Dutch ones.
 Author: Erikmax View Messages Posted By Erikmax
 Posted: Jan 29, 2020 12:23
 Subject: Re: Address fields require clear labels
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, Erikmax writes:
  From 1/1-2020 it is no longer possible to ship goods internationally in a letter
by PostNL. There has been a lot about this in this forum.

Professional dealers can still ship at a special rate using the online system.

But this online system requires filling in fields ´very strictly´ so street,
number, extra number, region, city, postcode.

We used to copypaste BL adresses, annd expected the local post to make the right
interpretation. But this is no longer possible.

Especially Asian adresses (S.Korea,Taiwan,Japan, China, Hong Kong) now gives
some questions, because it is not allways clear ´what is what´. Japanese addresses
come in the opposite order, sometimes there is as name or number, appartment
names and numbers that can be mixed up with a streetname, and there is the problem
that numbers come before streetnames on the label- streetnumbers are printed
AFTER the streetname. In many adresses it looks that things are mentioned twice,
but possible name of city and region are the same.

More postal administrations will adopt this new system thatis required by UPU,
(countries like USA will no longer accept and may even destroy shipments without
'prior notice of content', that's what postNL tells us) so this problem
would grow in the future.

In fact this requires a new way to display adresses ( "WITH LABEL") on brickink
to avoid `wrong` or incomplete adresses to be used.

Even more important because the lines on this label is limited and unneccesary
information pushes out important information from the line.

+1

It's good for two reasons - first to avoid mistakes as you describe, and
secondly, sellers automate the process in their own software, either with the
API or with CSV/Excel uploads. I want to do that too, but my software will only
be able to generate the right data if it in fact is told what is what. It saves
a significant amount of time doing it automated, but without clear fields, the
only way to do it is manually as it requires human common sense..

I'm sure it would be useful for more sellers than just the Dutch ones.

Yes I fully agree with this. And the importance of this will grow with the further
worldwide introduction of this electronic 'exchange' of shipping details.
So I hope we will get some more support to make some changes in the way Bricklink
displays the addresses. Fixed fields for all addres components is the best way
to achieve this.