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 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jan 23, 2020 22:40
 Subject: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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WilliamRaine (175)

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I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant. Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 11:49
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:16
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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WilliamRaine (175)

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In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:20
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags . . . since it appears that way in the instructions

No, part variant change requests should be based on actual sets contents and
not set instructions. Ideally, of course.

Set instructions don't always match set contents and inventories are intended
to represent actual set contents. A change request would need to be made based
on what was found in a brand new set.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 10:19
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?

The inventory should indeed include the "a" type as regular part and the "b"
type as alternate part for both colors. I have submitted the change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262880&nID=1176544
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 22:39
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?

The inventory should indeed include the "a" type as regular part and the "b"
type as alternate part for both colors. I have submitted the change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262880&nID=1176544

Thank you for doing that!