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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 17, 2019 07:45
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 4151-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4151  Name: Girl's FreeStyle Set
* 
4151-1 (Inv) Girl's FreeStyle Set
260 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1995
Sets: FreeStyle

* Delete 1 Part x104 Black Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail
* Delete 1 Part 3901 Black Minifigure, Hair Male
* Delete 1 Part 970c00 Blue Hips and Legs
* Delete 1 Part 970c00 Light Gray Hips and Legs
* Delete 1 Part 973c03 Pink Torso Plain / Dark Pink Arms / Yellow Hands
* Delete 1 Part 973px126c01 White Torso Paradisa Windsurf Board with Sunset Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* Delete 1 Part 3626bp02 Yellow Minifigure, Head Female with Red Lips, Eyelashes (Standard Woman Pattern) - Blocked Open Stud
* Delete 1 Part 3626bp03 Yellow Minifigure, Head Moustache Pointed with Standard Grin Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* Change 1 Minifig par040 Plain Pink Torso with Dark Pink Arms, Light Gray Legs, Black Ponytail Hair {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 1 Minifig fre005 Surfboard on Ocean - Blue Legs, Black Hair Male, Moustache {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Figures as assembled in play scenarios on poster and on all sides of original box are consistent in assembly. No need for these figures to be handled differently in inventories than other figures.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 17, 2019 11:11
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4151-1
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4151  Name: Girl's FreeStyle Set
* 
4151-1 (Inv) Girl's FreeStyle Set
260 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1995
Sets: FreeStyle

* Delete 1 Part x104 Black Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail
* Delete 1 Part 3901 Black Minifigure, Hair Male
* Delete 1 Part 970c00 Blue Hips and Legs
* Delete 1 Part 970c00 Light Gray Hips and Legs
* Delete 1 Part 973c03 Pink Torso Plain / Dark Pink Arms / Yellow Hands
* Delete 1 Part 973px126c01 White Torso Paradisa Windsurf Board with Sunset Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* Delete 1 Part 3626bp02 Yellow Minifigure, Head Female with Red Lips, Eyelashes (Standard Woman Pattern) - Blocked Open Stud
* Delete 1 Part 3626bp03 Yellow Minifigure, Head Moustache Pointed with Standard Grin Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* Change 1 Minifig par040 Plain Pink Torso with Dark Pink Arms, Light Gray Legs, Black Ponytail Hair {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 1 Minifig fre005 Surfboard on Ocean - Blue Legs, Black Hair Male, Moustache {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Figures as assembled in play scenarios on poster and on all sides of original box are consistent in assembly. No need for these figures to be handled differently in inventories than other figures.

So are these play scenario "posters" actually posters or are they instructions?
I ask because they are handled differently in different sets, and this set has
it listed as both. I would surmise they are instructions because posters are
generally something to hang on a wall for decoration. And I can't imagine
anyone hanging this up on a wall for decoration. Looks like we have stumbled
upon another inconsistency. What are your thoughts?

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 17, 2019 12:15
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4151-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  So are these play scenario "posters" actually posters or are they instructions?

I'm not any kind of expert on this line of sets, so take what I say with
a grain of table seasoning - it's just stuff I've picked up over the
years. To the best of my knowledge Freestyle sets didn't generally include
instructions (hence the series title, which indicated freestyle building).

Nevertheless, certain sets included large printed play scenes indicating ideas
for building. I believe these were referred to on set packaging for some sets
as posters and the size would tend to indicate this. These posters did not include
step-by-step instructions for building.

  I ask because they are handled differently in different sets, and this set has
it listed as both.

Yes, they are handled differently. The default for new entries is to include
instructions and once they get into the catalog that way it can be difficult
to remove the instructions entries from sets. I added the poster to this set
because it is shown, as the posters are for several Freestyle sets, as being
included on the printed parts list (and advertised there, again, for some sets
as a poster).

  Looks like we have stumbled upon another inconsistency. What are your thoughts?

If it were me, I'd remove the instructions entries where possible for sets
that are known to have posters:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=G&catString=503.78

Then include those posters in the set inventory. This is analogous in some ways
to Dacta set materials, where what I have pushed for is a similar approach.
The difference here is that these posters were usually included on parts lists
(although not counted in parts counts) for sets I've seen.

And, knowing me, I'd probably want to see the issue addressed in policy.