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 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 09:02
 Subject: 4150 not dead?
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Teup (4258)

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That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

 
Part No: 4150  Name: Tile, Round 2 x 2
* 
4150 Tile, Round 2 x 2
Parts: Tile, Round

With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 09:06
 Subject: Re: 4150 not dead?
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Unless you can provide proof, photo's etc of sealed bags they won't accept
that it wasn't altered, I understand why, no criticism.

I had the same issue with some heads that in theory couldn't possibly come
from a particular set, I know they did but I had no proof sadly.





In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

 
Part No: 4150  Name: Tile, Round 2 x 2
* 
4150 Tile, Round 2 x 2
Parts: Tile, Round

With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 09:41
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

 
Part No: 4150  Name: Tile, Round 2 x 2
* 
4150 Tile, Round 2 x 2
Parts: Tile, Round

With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.

Such things happen, some factory dig to old stock
but as Stuart9 said you need to have undoubtful proove.

Some example
 
Part No: 4085b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip)
* 
4085b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Used in 1980-1991 tne gap an agin reappear between 2004-2017
and recent one
 
Part No: 42445  Name: Bar  12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
* 
42445 Bar 12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
Parts: Bar
2002-2013 and the suddenly in one 2019 set
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 09:59
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

 
Part No: 4150  Name: Tile, Round 2 x 2
* 
4150 Tile, Round 2 x 2
Parts: Tile, Round

With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.

Such things happen, some factory dig to old stock
but as Stuart9 said you need to have undoubtful proove.

Some example
 
Part No: 4085b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip)
* 
4085b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Used in 1980-1991 tne gap an agin reappear between 2004-2017
and recent one
 
Part No: 42445  Name: Bar  12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
* 
42445 Bar 12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
Parts: Bar
2002-2013 and the suddenly in one 2019 set

Well, even if I have proof, maybe it is so rare that it's not worth complicating
the catalog for.

I parted out 2 copies of a lot of sets. Strangely, I have 4, and there is no
set in my list that contains 2. That means that either two different sets
with 1 each must have had them (unlikely) or they appeared in:

 
Set No: 21316  Name: The Flintstones
* 
21316-1 (Inv) The Flintstones
732 Parts, 4 Minifigs, 2019
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO)

(17 per set in total)
and/or

 
Set No: 21318  Name: Tree House
* 
21318-1 (Inv) Tree House
3020 Parts, 4 Minifigs, 2019
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO)

(3 per set in total)

...alongside the new type. It looks like they really just mixed in some old stock,
probably in the Flintstones one.
 Author: maxx3001 View Messages Posted By maxx3001
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 12:55
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.

LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets

Maxx
  
  
  
 
Part No: 4150  Name: Tile, Round 2 x 2
* 
4150 Tile, Round 2 x 2
Parts: Tile, Round

With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.

Such things happen, some factory dig to old stock
but as Stuart9 said you need to have undoubtful proove.

Some example
 
Part No: 4085b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip)
* 
4085b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Used in 1980-1991 tne gap an agin reappear between 2004-2017
and recent one
 
Part No: 42445  Name: Bar  12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
* 
42445 Bar 12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
Parts: Bar
2002-2013 and the suddenly in one 2019 set

Well, even if I have proof, maybe it is so rare that it's not worth complicating
the catalog for.

I parted out 2 copies of a lot of sets. Strangely, I have 4, and there is no
set in my list that contains 2. That means that either two different sets
with 1 each must have had them (unlikely) or they appeared in:

 
Set No: 21316  Name: The Flintstones
* 
21316-1 (Inv) The Flintstones
732 Parts, 4 Minifigs, 2019
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO)

(17 per set in total)
and/or

 
Set No: 21318  Name: Tree House
* 
21318-1 (Inv) Tree House
3020 Parts, 4 Minifigs, 2019
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO)

(3 per set in total)

...alongside the new type. It looks like they really just mixed in some old stock,
probably in the Flintstones one.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 13:07
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In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.

LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets

I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 17:09
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.

LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets

I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?

I think here is answer for your question. I remember problems with arch mold
in this set
 
Set No: 79003  Name: An Unexpected Gathering
* 
79003-1 (Inv) An Unexpected Gathering
623 Parts, 6 Minifigs, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings: The Hobbit
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/78045-issues-with-window-on-set-79003-an-unexpected-gathering-help/
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Nov 23, 2019 17:27
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  […]
  I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?

I think here is answer for your question. I remember problems with arch mold
in this set
 
Set No: 79003  Name: An Unexpected Gathering
* 
79003-1 (Inv) An Unexpected Gathering
623 Parts, 6 Minifigs, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings: The Hobbit
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/78045-issues-with-window-on-set-79003-an-unexpected-gathering-help/

Oh, very interesting indeed. Thank you.
 Author: maxx3001 View Messages Posted By maxx3001
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.

LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets

I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?

LEGO doesn’t really care, a brick is a brick is a brick.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  […]
  I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?

LEGO doesn’t really care, a brick is a brick is a brick.

Well, apparently, from the Eurobricks’ topic Hygrotus linked to, it depends whether
you get a friendly person from LEGO customer services, especially if you’re one
of the first to encounter the issue.
 Author: Nathan123 View Messages Posted By Nathan123
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In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:

LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.

LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets

I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?

LEGO doesn’t really care, a brick is a brick is a brick.

Except for 3001specials. They are a brick's brick and an example for all
the other bricks to follow.