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 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Nov 2, 2019 04:29
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1496  Name: Rally Car
* 
1496-1 (Inv) Rally Car
48 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Add 1 Part 193b2 Black Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
I am wondering or the black 193au (193a1 and 193a2) are the right one. Pictures
on the web are not conclusive. Black helmet 193a1 does not excist and black helmet
193a2 is from 1978 till 1986, as set 1496 is from 1987.

Maybe black 193au is not right. Maybe it is 193bu (193b1 and 193b2). It can not be 193b1, because this helmet is from 1984. So maybe it is the black 193b2? It fits the timeline (1978-1987) with the set 1496 from 1987.
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Dec 4, 2019 11:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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Well, I got my hands on an instruction of set 1496. In those pictures it is clearly
the black helmet 193b1 (Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples). Not that instructions
allways are telling the right story, but I think it is good to add the 193bu
as a counterpart. In that case any black helmet 193au or 193bu will fit this
set. Anyone agrees with me?

In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1496  Name: Rally Car
* 
1496-1 (Inv) Rally Car
48 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Add 1 Part 193b2 Black Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
I am wondering or the black 193au (193a1 and 193a2) are the right one. Pictures
on the web are not conclusive. Black helmet 193a1 does not excist and black helmet
193a2 is from 1978 till 1986, as set 1496 is from 1987.

Maybe black 193au is not right. Maybe it is 193bu (193b1 and 193b2). It can not be 193b1, because this helmet is from 1984. So maybe it is the black 193b2? It fits the timeline (1978-1987) with the set 1496 from 1987.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 4, 2019 11:46
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  Well, I got my hands on an instruction of set 1496. In those pictures it is clearly
the black helmet 193b1 (Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples). Not that instructions
allways are telling the right story, but I think it is good to add the 193bu
as a counterpart. In that case any black helmet 193au or 193bu will fit this
set. Anyone agrees with me?

Don't know yet. That is why this request is still pending.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Feb 27, 2021 12:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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There is not really any good data to go on in regards to this. The original inventories
for the set and the minifigure that contains this helmet do not have sources
listed and I don't have any solid images to go on, so I feel that we can
only look at what is available. And that is the instructions.

Since the instructions show a type of 193b and the image of the minifigure in
the BrickLink catalog also shows a type of 193b, I feel it is enough at this
time to substitute the 193au entry in the inventory of
 
Minifig No: zip044  Name: Jacket with Zipper - Red, Red Legs, Black Classic Helmet
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zip044 (Inv) Jacket with Zipper - Red, Red Legs, Black Classic Helmet
Minifigures: Town: Classic Town
with 193bu.

Therefore, this request will not be accepted, but the minifigure inventory will
be adjusted to better align with the image of the figure and instructions.

Cheers,
Randy


In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  Well, I got my hands on an instruction of set 1496. In those pictures it is clearly
the black helmet 193b1 (Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples). Not that instructions
allways are telling the right story, but I think it is good to add the 193bu
as a counterpart. In that case any black helmet 193au or 193bu will fit this
set. Anyone agrees with me?

In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1496  Name: Rally Car
* 
1496-1 (Inv) Rally Car
48 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Add 1 Part 193b2 Black Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
I am wondering or the black 193au (193a1 and 193a2) are the right one. Pictures
on the web are not conclusive. Black helmet 193a1 does not excist and black helmet
193a2 is from 1978 till 1986, as set 1496 is from 1987.

Maybe black 193au is not right. Maybe it is 193bu (193b1 and 193b2). It can not be 193b1, because this helmet is from 1984. So maybe it is the black 193b2? It fits the timeline (1978-1987) with the set 1496 from 1987.
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Mar 8, 2020 17:18
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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On YouTube there is a video about this set. The minifig clearly has a black 193bu,
I only can not see if it has visor Dimples or not. And it does not state this
is an original set.

In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1496  Name: Rally Car
* 
1496-1 (Inv) Rally Car
48 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Add 1 Part 193b2 Black Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
I am wondering or the black 193au (193a1 and 193a2) are the right one. Pictures
on the web are not conclusive. Black helmet 193a1 does not excist and black helmet
193a2 is from 1978 till 1986, as set 1496 is from 1987.

Maybe black 193au is not right. Maybe it is 193bu (193b1 and 193b2). It can not be 193b1, because this helmet is from 1984. So maybe it is the black 193b2? It fits the timeline (1978-1987) with the set 1496 from 1987.
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: May 15, 2020 07:18
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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This request is pending a long time now. With all the information, I would change
the helmet into the 193b2. What do you think?

In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1496  Name: Rally Car
* 
1496-1 (Inv) Rally Car
48 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Add 1 Part 193b2 Black Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
I am wondering or the black 193au (193a1 and 193a2) are the right one. Pictures
on the web are not conclusive. Black helmet 193a1 does not excist and black helmet
193a2 is from 1978 till 1986, as set 1496 is from 1987.

Maybe black 193au is not right. Maybe it is 193bu (193b1 and 193b2). It can not be 193b1, because this helmet is from 1984. So maybe it is the black 193b2? It fits the timeline (1978-1987) with the set 1496 from 1987.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 15, 2020 11:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1496-1
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In Inventories Requests, primadeluxe writes:
  This request is pending a long time now. With all the information, I would change
the helmet into the 193b2. What do you think?

We will let you know when we look into it.