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 Author: Loftis888 View Messages Posted By Loftis888
 Posted: Aug 11, 2019 23:50
 Subject: Seller completely ripped me off
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Loftis888 (3)

Location:  USA, Texas
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Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions
 Author: mmookk61 View Messages Posted By mmookk61
 Posted: Aug 11, 2019 23:55
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mmookk61 (158)

Location:  USA, Indiana
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Store: Paul's Bricks
In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.
 Author: Loftis888 View Messages Posted By Loftis888
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 00:05
 Subject: Re: Seller completely ripped me off
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Loftis888 (3)

Location:  USA, Texas
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In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK
 Author: mmookk61 View Messages Posted By mmookk61
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 00:17
 Subject: Re: Seller completely ripped me off
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mmookk61 (158)

Location:  USA, Indiana
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Store: Paul's Bricks
In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK

He does have 24 cancellations for one reason or another and whether or not Bricklink
is looking into it i don't know. Will your bank work with you to recover
the money? I don't know if it works with bank transfers the same as credit
cards but . . .

Does Bricklink keep the cancelled orders and do you still have a copy of it somehow
on your Bricklink account?

Other more in the know people will probably chime in tonight or tomorrow with
info or thoughts.
 Author: Loftis888 View Messages Posted By Loftis888
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 00:20
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Loftis888 (3)

Location:  USA, Texas
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK

My bank wouldnt help me , I told them it was fraud and they said they couldnt
do anything
 Author: mmookk61 View Messages Posted By mmookk61
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 00:24
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mmookk61 (158)

Location:  USA, Indiana
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 17, 2012 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Paul's Bricks
In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK

My bank wouldnt help me , I told them it was fraud and they said they couldnt
do anything

I know it's shutting the barn door after the cows get out but I always use
Paypal Goods and Services. Much safer and both sides protected.
 Author: Loftis888 View Messages Posted By Loftis888
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 00:26
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Location:  USA, Texas
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In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK

My bank wouldnt help me , I told them it was fraud and they said they couldnt
do anything

I know it's shutting the barn door after the cows get out but I always use
Paypal Goods and Services. Much safer and both sides protected.

Yeah I know it would've been alot better of a transaction, I wish bricklink
would've atleast given me a response to my email
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 02:16
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Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK

My bank wouldnt help me , I told them it was fraud and they said they couldnt
do anything

I know it's shutting the barn door after the cows get out but I always use
Paypal Goods and Services. Much safer and both sides protected.

Yeah I know it would've been alot better of a transaction, I wish bricklink
would've atleast given me a response to my email

Check your email spam folder for an email from @bricklink.com.
The Helpdesk is understaffed and has a backlog. It may take weeks.

File a police report.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 12:51
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK

My bank wouldnt help me , I told them it was fraud and they said they couldnt
do anything

I know it's shutting the barn door after the cows get out but I always use
Paypal Goods and Services. Much safer and both sides protected.

Yeah I know it would've been alot better of a transaction, I wish bricklink
would've atleast given me a response to my email

The seller is suspended, at least for now. I doubt they are legally allowed to
give further information about the seller and why they are suspended but they
could acknowledge that they have received your complaint.
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 Posted: Aug 12, 2019 23:56
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Location:  USA, New York
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He’s left feedback for people as recently as August 7th.

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=Jack_Mcdonald

Odd

In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, mmookk61 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

What is the seller's Store name? Then we can help guide you better.

It was AnimalBricksUK
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
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Location:  Netherlands, Noord-Holland
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Why did you gave him a positive feedback when it looks like you are scammed for
hundreds of $’s!

I hope you can fix it, this is a real shame.

When I look at the feedback of the seller he looks to be fine, what changed him
from being a good seller into a possible scam?
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In Help, tonnic writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Why did you gave him a positive feedback when it looks like you are scammed for
hundreds of $’s!

I hope you can fix it, this is a real shame.

It’s already difficult when both seller and buyer are in the same country


  When I look at the feedback of the seller he looks to be fine, what changed him
from being a good seller into a possible scam?

Buying and selling priviledges removed.
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Yeah I hate the positive feedback on it , but I put it before it got there because
the seller was very communicative and nice when dealing with the transaction.
Felt like it was gonna be fun up until the very end sadly. And I did file a report
with IC3 for this being a scam but haven't gotten a response on that in e
weeks either
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Location:  USA, Washington
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Yeah I hate the positive feedback on it , but I put it before it got there because
the seller was very communicative and nice when dealing with the transaction.
Felt like it was gonna be fun up until the very end sadly.


And I did file a report with IC3 for this being a scam but haven't gotten a response on that in e weeks either.

…and you won’t. The bureau simply gathers, reviews and analyze, to then disseminate
pertinent information to other law enforcement or regulatory agencies, for criminal,
administrative or civil action, if deemed appropriate.

It’s a sort of clearinghouse the FBI use (for now) to address the burgeoning
field of Internet policing.

You should have received a standardized email after filing with your case number,
print/save a copy.

If you’re contacted further, it will be by the agency or regulatory body the
case is forwarded to. Emphasis on if
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In Help, popsicle writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Yeah I hate the positive feedback on it , but I put it before it got there because
the seller was very communicative and nice when dealing with the transaction.
Felt like it was gonna be fun up until the very end sadly.


And I did file a report with IC3 for this being a scam but haven't gotten a response on that in e weeks either.

…and you won’t. The bureau simply gathers, reviews and analyze, to then disseminate
pertinent information to other law enforcement or regulatory agencies, for criminal,
administrative or civil action, if deemed appropriate.

It’s a sort of clearinghouse the FBI use (for now) to address the burgeoning
field of Internet policing.

You should have received a standardized email after filing with your case number,
print/save a copy.

If you’re contacted further, it will be by the agency or regulatory body the
case is forwarded to. Emphasis on if

I'll add further opinion...

As a the banking system is involved internationally, your case should move forward.
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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Wow, sorry to hear that. That is really evil. I wonder why they even sent something
at all? Just to mock you?
Definitely report them to the police.
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In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Wow, sorry to hear that. That is really evil.

"evil" really? Do you now the meaning of the word? I'd suggest putting fraud
into context

  I wonder why they even sent something at all? Just to mock you?

I actually do envy the sheltered life some live. Why a phantom shipment, really?

  Definitely report them to the police.

He has, at the federal level.

...and if I could, I'd like to ask why I or most others in the world, could
not have such a sheltered life?
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In Help, popsicle writes:
  In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Wow, sorry to hear that. That is really evil.

"evil" really? Do you now the meaning of the word? I'd suggest putting fraud
into context

No, I think this is evil. People may be selfish with fraudulent practices, but
to actually go and prepare an envelope for someone with rubbish, knowing that
they will open it and what they will feel when they do, it takes a pathological
lack of empathy to be able to make that effort. I'm glad I haven't met
people like that. It would've been better if they had sent nothing at all.

  
  I wonder why they even sent something at all? Just to mock you?

I actually do envy the sheltered life some live.

Amongst other things I've worked in Russia. Don't confuse a sheltered
life with stupidity.

  Why a phantom shipment, really?

Yes, really. I don't see the benefit. If anything, it's to the seller's
disadvantage, as the shipment weight clearly deviates from that of the product
that was bought. It's handing the buyer documented proof of fraud. It doesn't
even delay detection because this proof is created the moment the seller ships
the "order".
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In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, popsicle writes:
  In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Wow, sorry to hear that. That is really evil.

"evil" really? Do you now the meaning of the word? I'd suggest putting fraud
into context

No, I think this is evil. People may be selfish with fraudulent practices, but
to actually go and prepare an envelope for someone with rubbish, knowing that
they will open it and what they will feel when they do, it takes a pathological
lack of empathy to be able to make that effort. I'm glad I haven't met
people like that. It would've been better if they had sent nothing at all.

  
  I wonder why they even sent something at all? Just to mock you?

I actually do envy the sheltered life some live.

Amongst other things I've worked in Russia. Don't confuse a sheltered
life with stupidity.

  Why a phantom shipment, really?

Yes, really. I don't see the benefit. If anything, it's to the seller's
disadvantage, as the shipment weight clearly deviates from that of the product
that was bought. It's handing the buyer documented proof of fraud. It doesn't
even delay detection because this proof is created the moment the seller ships
the "order".

Agreed. Theft like this, esp from a seller in a developed country, is clearly
sociopathic.


That said, my understanding from ebay scams, is the dummy package serves as a
way to stall or even claim. This was very common years back with scammers buying
or selling cell phones.

As the buyer will have tracking. Or to get away with the scam entirely....However
for paypal you would need to sent something the same weight and size to win.

This looks like a stall tactic imo.
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In Help, Adjour writes:
   As the buyer will have tracking. Or to get away with the scam entirely....However
for paypal you would need to sent something the same weight and size to win.

OP said seller requested payment through a bank transfer, which he did, so Paypal
isn't even in the mix.

  This looks like a stall tactic imo.

If anything, sending that silly envelope sped things up instead of stalling,
as it was immediately clear that this was not right. Not sending an envelope
would have dragged this out much longer, and now the seller also lost any argument
of the shipment being lost.

Either a very dumb seller, or something else is happening that we don't know.

Niek.
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In Help, Adjour writes:
  In Help, qwertyboy writes:
  In Help, Adjour writes:
   As the buyer will have tracking. Or to get away with the scam entirely....However
for paypal you would need to sent something the same weight and size to win.

OP said seller requested payment through a bank transfer, which he did, so Paypal
isn't even in the mix.

  This looks like a stall tactic imo.

If anything, sending that silly envelope sped things up instead of stalling,
as it was immediately clear that this was not right. Not sending an envelope
would have dragged this out much longer, and now the seller also lost any argument
of the shipment being lost.

Either a very dumb seller, or something else is happening that we don't know.

Niek.

Well so much for that, back on it goes.

I was just making conversation, I never said it was paypal. I was giving an example.

And I completely disagree with you on the stalling part. Having NO tracking #
would raise flags immediately IMO.

Feel free to put me on your ignore list.

Niek doesn't strike me as the type to use the ignore function.

  I have never once had a positive interaction with you, you have nitpicked in every response to me.

He's not "nitpicking" just stating his viewpoint, which can be perceived
as opposing your's in this particular.

I personally think you brought-up a couple of good points, Crystal.
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In Help, Adjour writes:
  Feel free to put me on your ignore list. I have never once had a positive interaction
with you, you have nitpicked in every response to me.

I was not aware you never had a positive interaction with me. That kinda saddens
me, as I never post on the forum to nitpick on anyone - I honestly only post
when I feel I can contribute to something.

I don't ignore people for having views that might differ from mine, or even
people that rub me the wrong way. My ignore list solely consists of people that
make many sales posts, as it makes it hard to read the forum the way I do (which
is to open up the last unread post, and use the "right" button to read all the
newer ones). I am simply not interested in sales posts.

If I have offended you, or you feel nitpicked on, my apologies. I will try to
be mindful of that.

Niek.
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In Help, qwertyboy writes:
  In Help, Adjour writes:
  Feel free to put me on your ignore list. I have never once had a positive interaction
with you, you have nitpicked in every response to me.

I was not aware you never had a positive interaction with me. That kinda saddens
me, as I never post on the forum to nitpick on anyone - I honestly only post
when I feel I can contribute to something.

I don't ignore people for having views that might differ from mine, or even
people that rub me the wrong way. My ignore list solely consists of people that
make many sales posts, as it makes it hard to read the forum the way I do (which
is to open up the last unread post, and use the "right" button to read all the
newer ones). I am simply not interested in sales posts.


If I have offended you, or you feel nitpicked on, my apologies. I will try to be mindful of that.

I don't believe you! On you knees, and say it with conviction!

Okay, not that funny. And I do apologize, with almost as much contrition as you
Niek, but not quite
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In Help, Adjour writes:
  In Help, qwertyboy writes:
  In Help, Adjour writes:
   As the buyer will have tracking. Or to get away with the scam entirely....However
for paypal you would need to sent something the same weight and size to win.

OP said seller requested payment through a bank transfer, which he did, so Paypal
isn't even in the mix.

  This looks like a stall tactic imo.

If anything, sending that silly envelope sped things up instead of stalling,
as it was immediately clear that this was not right. Not sending an envelope
would have dragged this out much longer, and now the seller also lost any argument
of the shipment being lost.

Either a very dumb seller, or something else is happening that we don't know.

Niek.

(...)
And I completely disagree with you on the stalling part. Having NO tracking #
would raise flags immediately IMO.

Then again, if you have the tracking info, you should also have the weight and
shipping type of the shipment displayed in there - at least if it works the way
I am familiar with. So you'd know immediately it's not right. That is,
if you look closely. And also you have evidence of fraud on paper.

So I do think it's strange they sent that. Maybe the buyer just misclicked
and accidentally ordered an empty LEGO Movie 2 minifig series package
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Either a very dumb seller, or something else is happening that we don't know.


The buyer leaving positive feedback for this great seller before receiving anything
adds to the mix. Not only did they leave it, they left it first, a week before
the seller. A very strange transaction.
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

I do really hope my case moves forward but its definetly been awhile since I
sent it in so I lose hope by the day since my bank cant help and bricklink wont
even email me back
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Daragh (2023)

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That's really terrible. I don't know if you can or not, but if you have
their address can you report it to their local police station in their country?
It's theft and you have proof (I assume) of the transfer, the order details
of what you ordered and the trackable delivery of what you got. That should be
enough to at least initiate a local cop making an inquiry and hopefully frighten
the life out of this scum bag seller.
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In Help, Daragh writes:
  That's really terrible. I don't know if you can or not, but if you have
their address can you report it to their local police station in their country?
It's theft and you have proof (I assume) of the transfer, the order details
of what you ordered and the trackable delivery of what you got. That should be
enough to at least initiate a local cop making an inquiry and hopefully frighten
the life out of this scum bag seller.

Idk if I can or not , never tried something like that , but I wont lie , it's
been over a month since it all happened and unless bricklink or IC3 gets back
to me on ot , I'm gonna live and let live on the whole situation. I just
wish that it wasnt money in the wind cause I would have rather bought a inflated
priced UCS set for what I spent on this empty minfig package
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That's you're decision but I honestly think that five minutes spent googling
his local police station and emailing them the details would be time better spent
than comments here, you might get some action, you might not, but you tried.

Best of luck one way or the other.
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Daragh writes:
  That's really terrible. I don't know if you can or not, but if you have
their address can you report it to their local police station in their country?
It's theft and you have proof (I assume) of the transfer, the order details
of what you ordered and the trackable delivery of what you got. That should be
enough to at least initiate a local cop making an inquiry and hopefully frighten
the life out of this scum bag seller.

Idk if I can or not , never tried something like that , but I wont lie , it's
been over a month since it all happened and unless bricklink or IC3 gets back
to me on ot , I'm gonna live and let live on the whole situation. I just
wish that it wasnt money in the wind cause I would have rather bought a inflated
priced UCS set for what I spent on this empty minfig package

You ask people to make an effort to advice you, but the basic action of reporting
it to the police, you won't do. That's alright but it means it's
not much of an issue to you. Next time, it's better for everyone involved
to think about whether something really is an issue before asking for
help.
Besides, reporting it to the police might help preventing this from happening
to other people in the future. Not a big chance perhaps, but it can. Over here,
domestic cases of this take 6 reports before the police starts investigating.
So at least in that situation every report helps building a case.
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In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  In Help, Daragh writes:
  That's really terrible. I don't know if you can or not, but if you have
their address can you report it to their local police station in their country?
It's theft and you have proof (I assume) of the transfer, the order details
of what you ordered and the trackable delivery of what you got. That should be
enough to at least initiate a local cop making an inquiry and hopefully frighten
the life out of this scum bag seller.

Idk if I can or not , never tried something like that , but I wont lie , it's
been over a month since it all happened and unless bricklink or IC3 gets back
to me on ot , I'm gonna live and let live on the whole situation. I just
wish that it wasnt money in the wind cause I would have rather bought a inflated
priced UCS set for what I spent on this empty minfig package

You ask people to make an effort to advice you, but the basic action of reporting
it to the police, you won't do. That's alright but it means it's
not much of an issue to you. Next time, it's better for everyone involved
to think about whether something really is an issue before asking for
help.
Besides, reporting it to the police might help preventing this from happening
to other people in the future. Not a big chance perhaps, but it can. Over here,
domestic cases of this take 6 reports before the police starts investigating.
So at least in that situation every report helps building a case.

One good thing that did happen after he brought it up on the group was the suspension
of said Bricklink store. It wasn't suspended before but it is now

Paul(Mmookk61)
Fighting crime since 1961.
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In Help, Loftis888 writes:
  Just curious what I should do here cause this is a long story. I purchased a
UCS Falcon from a guy in the UK (I live in US). He requested I pay through bank
transfer and so I did after placing my order. After he shipped the order he cancelled
the order stating it was so he didnt have fo pay seller fees , I knew this seemed
very odd but didnt feel the need to question it as my package would arrive the
next day. After going to my post office expecting a large box hence it being
a UCS Falcon after all you can imagine my shock when I was handed a envelope.
I opened it to find an EMPTY LEGO MOVIE 2 MINIFIGURE PACKAGE !!! Now the seller
wont respond and I sent an email to bricklink and they haven't responded
in over almost 2 weeks , this all happened probably 1 month ago and some change
, I've been trying to deal with it and nothing seems to help so I'm open
to any suggestions

Just to let yall know I filled out a report for fraud with the station online
near were he was so we will see what becomes of it and I'll update this post
if anything occurs