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| | | Author: | TallyToyBricks  | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 17:41 | | Subject: | Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| How are the 2417 plant leaves different from the "plant based" 2417?
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, TallyToyBricks writes:
| | How are the 2417 plant leaves different from the "plant based" 2417?
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It's the same plastic: Polyethylene. It's just made from fresh plants
rather than from dinosaurs (oil). But it isn't biodegradable in any way and
as far as I can see doesn't have much merit in terms of sustainability or
the environment.
"The new sustainable LEGO elements are made from polyethylene, which is a soft,
durable and flexible plastic, and while they are based on sugar-cane material,
they are technically identical to those produced using conventional plastic."
(and a bit of marketing blabla about sustainability)
https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/news-room/2018/march/pfp
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| | | | | | | Author: | cycbuild | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, TallyToyBricks writes:
| | How are the 2417 plant leaves different from the "plant based" 2417?
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It's the same plastic: Polyethylene. It's just made from fresh plants
rather than from dinosaurs (oil). But it isn't biodegradable in any way and
as far as I can see doesn't have much merit in terms of sustainability or
the environment.
"The new sustainable LEGO elements are made from polyethylene, which is a soft,
durable and flexible plastic, and while they are based on sugar-cane material,
they are technically identical to those produced using conventional plastic."
(and a bit of marketing blabla about sustainability)
https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/news-room/2018/march/pfp
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Intentions aside, it's kind of fascinating - plants turned into plastic mimicking
plants. The equivalent of making a long-lasting forest diorama out of chemically
processed wood and pine resin?
No more plastic straws where I live, just like plastic bags a few years back.
The zoomers' kids' kids are going to grow up with flimsy magnetic-silicone
LEGO and holographic bricks. Good thing ABS takes forever to break down 
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| | | | | | | Author: | Biscuit_head | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 19:08 | | Subject: | Re: Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Sustainability: avoidance of the depletion of natural resources in order to maintain
an ecological balance.
They're using less crude oil by no longer using it to make plant peices.
They could possibly make all of the parts from plants instead of oil once they
find enough sugar cane farms that can keep up with the demand.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 19:56 | | Subject: | Re: Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Biscuit_head writes:
| | Sustainability: avoidance of the depletion of natural resources in order to maintain
an ecological balance.
They're using less crude oil by no longer using it to make plant peices.
They could possibly make all of the parts from plants instead of oil once they
find enough sugar cane farms that can keep up with the demand.
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No, they couldn’t. Most of the parts are ABS, not PE. Different plastics, different
processes.
PE can be made from ethanol. (Ahoy matey, sugar cane is rum!)
ABS is more complex.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2019 06:50 | | Subject: | Re: Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Biscuit_head writes:
| | Sustainability: avoidance of the depletion of natural resources in order to maintain
an ecological balance.
They're using less crude oil by no longer using it to make plant peices.
They could possibly make all of the parts from plants instead of oil once they
find enough sugar cane farms that can keep up with the demand.
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I guess producing crude oil generates a lot of emissions. But I wonder how much
less emissions their new production process really involves. I guess it kind
of stands or falls with that.
The end result is the same: polyethylene, which is basically a polluting substance.
But that's if you throw it away, of course, and thankfully LEGO is far from
single use. But the amount of parts LEGO pumps out of their machines per day
is staggering and it has to go somewhere eventually.
I would be more impressed if LEGO invested in degrading plastic. Not making parts
that degrade, I mean, but degrading the durable high quality parts with some
special process. I don't know about ABS but scientists already discovered
caterpillars that are able to digest polyethylene. If LEGO had some scheme you
could send in old and broken parts in exchange for some VIP points of whatever,
and they'd degrade or recycle it, then we'd be talking.
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| | | | | Author: | Pam_Shaver | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 20:35 | | Subject: | Re: Plant 2417? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The future will just be holographs or all computer generated images. You
won't even need real bricks. You will be able to trade online for your holographic
bricks just like you do when playing those vitual games. You pay vitual money
for vitual bricks to build your sets.
Afterall you can read a book without having a real book in your hands. You can
play solitaire on the computer without touching a real card. Why not build Lego
sets without a physical brick.
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