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 Author: seymour3113 View Messages Posted By seymour3113
 Posted: May 25, 2019 14:10
 Subject: 4070a
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seymour3113 (598)

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I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: May 25, 2019 14:34
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Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: May 25, 2019 15:18
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In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.

Now if we could just get rid of the ridiculous entries for "smooth slopes."
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: May 25, 2019 16:02
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.

Now if we could just get rid of the ridiculous entries for "smooth slopes."


Why do you think that smooth slopes is not an appropriate entry? I actually prefer
textured slopes and when I order textured slopes and get smooth slopes it does
not make me happy.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 25, 2019 18:15
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.

Now if we could just get rid of the ridiculous entries for "smooth slopes."

This is something we are going to look into. From what I have seen over the years,
there is no real "smooth slopes" for some of those parts (or any of them). What
they are are parts that come from molds where the sand-blasted texture has been
worn down over time making the slopes look more smooth than others that were
produced when the molds were new. One thing is for certain - none of them are
smooth like real smooth-molded slopes such as
 
Part No: 11477  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 2/3
* 
11477 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 2/3
Parts: Slope, Curved

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: May 26, 2019 03:24
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.

Now if we could just get rid of the ridiculous entries for "smooth slopes."

This is something we are going to look into. From what I have seen over the years,
there is no real "smooth slopes" for some of those parts (or any of them). What
they are are parts that come from molds where the sand-blasted texture has been
worn down over time making the slopes look more smooth than others that were
produced when the molds were new. One thing is for certain - none of them are
smooth like real smooth-molded slopes such as
 
Part No: 11477  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 2/3
* 
11477 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 2/3
Parts: Slope, Curved

Cheers,
Randy


Don't forget about
 
Part No: 3678a  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3678a Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
versus
 
Part No: 3678b  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
* 
3678b Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
with complete, intended smoothness
in the a-version.

Hans-Peter
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: May 26, 2019 05:26
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.


You think the horizontal slot is a defect?

I believe, until Lego says otherwise, the slot is meant to be like this.

Out of all my 4070 at least 80% have a slot, no matter what year or color, no
matter what set it came from.
Too much for a defect.

It is a slot that is always the same form, sharply formed, very straight and
small.

I think it could be made for pressure relieve.
 Author: WhiteHorseMatt View Messages Posted By WhiteHorseMatt
 Posted: May 26, 2019 06:30
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In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.


You think the horizontal slot is a defect?

I believe, until Lego says otherwise, the slot is meant to be like this.

Out of all my 4070 at least 80% have a slot, no matter what year or color, no
matter what set it came from.
Too much for a defect.

It is a slot that is always the same form, sharply formed, very straight and
small.

I think it could be made for pressure relieve.

Yes, if you look from the inside, the hole is always moulded there. Sometimes
there is a thin skin over it. I think all my newer parts have the slot, with
older ones being hit and miss.

I believe the note on the part 'This part is occasionally found with a small
horizontal slot in the front near the base. This is believed to be an unintentional
feature.' is incorrect. Should be the other way round 'occasionally
found WITHOUT a small...'
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: May 26, 2019 13:27
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In Catalog, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.


You think the horizontal slot is a defect?

I believe, until Lego says otherwise, the slot is meant to be like this.

Out of all my 4070 at least 80% have a slot, no matter what year or color, no
matter what set it came from.
Too much for a defect.

It is a slot that is always the same form, sharply formed, very straight and
small.

I think it could be made for pressure relieve.

Yes, if you look from the inside, the hole is always moulded there. Sometimes
there is a thin skin over it. I think all my newer parts have the slot, with
older ones being hit and miss.

I believe the note on the part 'This part is occasionally found with a small
horizontal slot in the front near the base. This is believed to be an unintentional
feature.' is incorrect. Should be the other way round 'occasionally
found WITHOUT a small...'

Exactly my idea!
Maybe we should ask for a catalog change.
 Author: maninblack View Messages Posted By maninblack
 Posted: May 26, 2019 13:42
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In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.


You think the horizontal slot is a defect?

I believe, until Lego says otherwise, the slot is meant to be like this.

Out of all my 4070 at least 80% have a slot, no matter what year or color, no
matter what set it came from.
Too much for a defect.

It is a slot that is always the same form, sharply formed, very straight and
small.

I think it could be made for pressure relieve.

Yes, if you look from the inside, the hole is always moulded there. Sometimes
there is a thin skin over it. I think all my newer parts have the slot, with
older ones being hit and miss.

I believe the note on the part 'This part is occasionally found with a small
horizontal slot in the front near the base. This is believed to be an unintentional
feature.' is incorrect. Should be the other way round 'occasionally
found WITHOUT a small...'

Exactly my idea!
Maybe we should ask for a catalog change.

Many years ago I managed to speak directly with a Lego engineer. I reported it
to Admin and for some time the description of the conversation was shown in the
Additional Notes for the part.
The slot is NOT intentional but is more a problem with the design of the part.
Whether a slot forms or not is down, mainly, to the age of the mold.
A redesign is not possible and it is considered to be such a minor flaw that
keeping things as they are is better than scrapping the part altogether.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: May 26, 2019 13:45
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In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  Yes, BL has decided not to differentiate between these.

In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?

Thankfully, since there are so many headlight bricks with varying levels of partial
holes. It was definitely a manufacturing defect.


You think the horizontal slot is a defect?

I believe, until Lego says otherwise, the slot is meant to be like this.

Out of all my 4070 at least 80% have a slot, no matter what year or color, no
matter what set it came from.
Too much for a defect.

It is a slot that is always the same form, sharply formed, very straight and
small.

I think it could be made for pressure relieve.

Yes, if you look from the inside, the hole is always moulded there. Sometimes
there is a thin skin over it. I think all my newer parts have the slot, with
older ones being hit and miss.

I believe the note on the part 'This part is occasionally found with a small
horizontal slot in the front near the base. This is believed to be an unintentional
feature.' is incorrect. Should be the other way round 'occasionally
found WITHOUT a small...'

Exactly my idea!
Maybe we should ask for a catalog change.

I've changed the catalog note for both entries. See if that sounds better
to you.
 Author: seymour3113 View Messages Posted By seymour3113
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In Catalog, seymour3113 writes:
  I have several of these bricks (4070a). They are being deleted from catalog.
Should I just list them as 4070?