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| | | Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | May 21, 2019 03:20 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 4081b Light Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4276a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4275a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Add 6 Part 4276 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers
* Add 6 Part 4275 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 21, 2019 03:51 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 4081b Light Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4276a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4275a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Add 6 Part 4276 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers
* Add 6 Part 4275 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
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Ok, this is a challenging one.
This set was produced between 1986-92 but in US (and Canada?) it was released
only since 1989. So we do not get much info about the concerning parts by checking
the market of USA (like worthpoint)
The boxes (and instructions) of Model team sets (5510-1, 5580-1, 5590-1,...)
appeared in two versions. I read on brickset that the second version was released
in 1990 but I think it was changed since 1989 (like the boxes of trains, supplemental
sets for trains,...) As you see in the photos, there is a catalog of 1989
So this particular NIB copy does not help with whether the early versions of
hinges and clips came also with this set or not.
Hinges: the later versions 4276 and 4275 were released since very early 1985.
Since we do not have a proof that the hinges with hollow studs appeared in early
productions of this set, I think we should remove them.
Clips: I know that the clips 4081 were produced first in 1985 and appeared in
early released of 7817-1 and 7745-1 as alternate but also, it appeared in some
sets form 1986-7 in other colors (probably in the US market)!
I have not seen them in any used copy of this set but if they came in some early
releases, we are probably looking to find a rare released (something like 0.5%
of total releases of this set). The cautious decision would be to keep them as
alternate (as that would be very rare) otherwise we can just remove them.
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html#&gid=1&pid=9
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| | | | | | | Author: | Speciale | | Posted: | May 21, 2019 04:42 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 4081b Light Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4276a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4275a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Add 6 Part 4276 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers
* Add 6 Part 4275 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
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Ok, this is a challenging one.
This set was produced between 1986-92 but in US (and Canada?) it was released
only since 1989. So we do not get much info about the concerning parts by checking
the market of USA (like worthpoint)
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MISB - Original Light Blue 1986 Box
you can find this seller back .
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The boxes (and instructions) of Model team sets (5510-1, 5580-1, 5590-1,...)
appeared in two versions. I read on brickset that the second version was released
in 1990 but I think it was changed since 1989 (like the boxes of trains, supplemental
sets for trains,...) As you see in the photos, there is a catalog of 1989
So this particular NIB copy does not help with whether the early versions of
hinges and clips came also with this set or not.
Hinges: the later versions 4276 and 4275 were released since very early 1985.
Since we do not have a proof that the hinges with hollow studs appeared in early
productions of this set, I think we should remove them.
Clips: I know that the clips 4081 were produced first in 1985 and appeared in
early released of 7817-1 and 7745-1 as alternate but also, it appeared in some
sets form 1986-7 in other colors (probably in the US market)!
I have not seen them in any used copy of this set but if they came in some early
releases, we are probably looking to find a rare released (something like 0.5%
of total releases of this set). The cautious decision would be to keep them as
alternate (as that would be very rare) otherwise we can just remove them.
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html#&gid=1&pid=9
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| | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | May 23, 2019 00:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 4081b Light Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4276a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4275a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Add 6 Part 4276 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers
* Add 6 Part 4275 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
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Ok, this is a challenging one.
This set was produced between 1986-92 but in US (and Canada?) it was released
only since 1989. So we do not get much info about the concerning parts by checking
the market of USA (like worthpoint)
The boxes (and instructions) of Model team sets (5510-1, 5580-1, 5590-1,...)
appeared in two versions. I read on brickset that the second version was released
in 1990 but I think it was changed since 1989 (like the boxes of trains, supplemental
sets for trains,...) As you see in the photos, there is a catalog of 1989
So this particular NIB copy does not help with whether the early versions of
hinges and clips came also with this set or not.
Hinges: the later versions 4276 and 4275 were released since very early 1985.
Since we do not have a proof that the hinges with hollow studs appeared in early
productions of this set, I think we should remove them.
Clips: I know that the clips 4081 were produced first in 1985 and appeared in
early released of 7817-1 and 7745-1 as alternate but also, it appeared in some
sets form 1986-7 in other colors (probably in the US market)!
I have not seen them in any used copy of this set but if they came in some early
releases, we are probably looking to find a rare released (something like 0.5%
of total releases of this set). The cautious decision would be to keep them as
alternate (as that would be very rare) otherwise we can just remove them.
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html#&gid=1&pid=9
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My husband Paul has 2 of this set. We've found the box for one, and it is
a 1990 version(1990 printed on the box) purchased in Germany sometime before
Jan., 1993. There are 2 stickers showing the original and reduced price in DM.(He
is actually using the inner tray right now for sorting while he's building
42055-1, so it was literally right there in front of his nose.  )
We aren't sure about the location of the other box and the actual models.
There is a possibility the other one is a different version, because we lived
in Europe from 1984-1993. Give us a few days to find them and report back to
you.
Thea and Paul
A Great Adventure Together!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 23, 2019 23:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 4081b Light Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4276a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4275a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Add 6 Part 4276 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers
* Add 6 Part 4275 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
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Ok, this is a challenging one.
This set was produced between 1986-92 but in US (and Canada?) it was released
only since 1989. So we do not get much info about the concerning parts by checking
the market of USA (like worthpoint)
The boxes (and instructions) of Model team sets (5510-1, 5580-1, 5590-1,...)
appeared in two versions. I read on brickset that the second version was released
in 1990 but I think it was changed since 1989 (like the boxes of trains, supplemental
sets for trains,...) As you see in the photos, there is a catalog of 1989
So this particular NIB copy does not help with whether the early versions of
hinges and clips came also with this set or not.
Hinges: the later versions 4276 and 4275 were released since very early 1985.
Since we do not have a proof that the hinges with hollow studs appeared in early
productions of this set, I think we should remove them.
Clips: I know that the clips 4081 were produced first in 1985 and appeared in
early released of 7817-1 and 7745-1 as alternate but also, it appeared in some
sets form 1986-7 in other colors (probably in the US market)!
I have not seen them in any used copy of this set but if they came in some early
releases, we are probably looking to find a rare released (something like 0.5%
of total releases of this set). The cautious decision would be to keep them as
alternate (as that would be very rare) otherwise we can just remove them.
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html#&gid=1&pid=9
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My husband Paul has 2 of this set. We've found the box for one, and it is
a 1990 version(1990 printed on the box) purchased in Germany sometime before
Jan., 1993. There are 2 stickers showing the original and reduced price in DM.(He
is actually using the inner tray right now for sorting while he's building
42055-1, so it was literally right there in front of his nose. )
We aren't sure about the location of the other box and the actual models.
There is a possibility the other one is a different version, because we lived
in Europe from 1984-1993. Give us a few days to find them and report back to
you.
Thea and Paul
A Great Adventure Together!
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Many thanks Thea.
The photos that I attached prove that the thick clips and hinges with hollow
studs came with this set in later releases. What we need to find is an early
release from 1986 to see if the thin clips or red hinges with solid studs came
also with this set. If your sets are from 1990, I don't think they can add
any information with what we already know.
Bests,
Reza
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | May 27, 2019 02:31 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 4081b Light Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4276a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 6 Part 4275a Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Add 6 Part 4276 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers
* Add 6 Part 4275 Red Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
|
Ok, this is a challenging one.
This set was produced between 1986-92 but in US (and Canada?) it was released
only since 1989. So we do not get much info about the concerning parts by checking
the market of USA (like worthpoint)
The boxes (and instructions) of Model team sets (5510-1, 5580-1, 5590-1,...)
appeared in two versions. I read on brickset that the second version was released
in 1990 but I think it was changed since 1989 (like the boxes of trains, supplemental
sets for trains,...) As you see in the photos, there is a catalog of 1989
So this particular NIB copy does not help with whether the early versions of
hinges and clips came also with this set or not.
Hinges: the later versions 4276 and 4275 were released since very early 1985.
Since we do not have a proof that the hinges with hollow studs appeared in early
productions of this set, I think we should remove them.
Clips: I know that the clips 4081 were produced first in 1985 and appeared in
early released of 7817-1 and 7745-1 as alternate but also, it appeared in some
sets form 1986-7 in other colors (probably in the US market)!
I have not seen them in any used copy of this set but if they came in some early
releases, we are probably looking to find a rare released (something like 0.5%
of total releases of this set). The cautious decision would be to keep them as
alternate (as that would be very rare) otherwise we can just remove them.
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html#&gid=1&pid=9
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My husband Paul has 2 of this set. We've found the box for one, and it is
a 1990 version(1990 printed on the box) purchased in Germany sometime before
Jan., 1993. There are 2 stickers showing the original and reduced price in DM.(He
is actually using the inner tray right now for sorting while he's building
42055-1, so it was literally right there in front of his nose. )
We aren't sure about the location of the other box and the actual models.
There is a possibility the other one is a different version, because we lived
in Europe from 1984-1993. Give us a few days to find them and report back to
you.
Thea and Paul
A Great Adventure Together!
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Many thanks Thea.
The photos that I attached prove that the thick clips and hinges with hollow
studs came with this set in later releases. What we need to find is an early
release from 1986 to see if the thin clips or red hinges with solid studs came
also with this set. If your sets are from 1990, I don't think they can add
any information with what we already know.
Bests,
Reza
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We found the actual models today and the 2 instruction books. Both instruction
books say 1986 1990 on them, so I'm afraid I can only verify what you have
said about the later version.
Thea
Always An Adventure!
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| | | | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | May 27, 2019 02:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 27, 2019 03:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
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Thanks for helping
The early version is like this:
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html
But how can one know if it is from 1986 or 1987 or... unless if the original
catalog is still in the box. (TLG always put a catalog inside all the boxes)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | May 28, 2019 00:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
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Thanks for helping
The early version is like this:
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html
But how can one know if it is from 1986 or 1987 or... unless if the original
catalog is still in the box. (TLG always put a catalog inside all the boxes)
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Well I just checked and its catalog 102917 which is from the early 90's so
now I'm even more confused!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 28, 2019 00:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
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Thanks for helping
The early version is like this:
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html
But how can one know if it is from 1986 or 1987 or... unless if the original
catalog is still in the box. (TLG always put a catalog inside all the boxes)
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Well I just checked and its catalog 102917 which is from the early 90's so
now I'm even more confused!
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Could you please attach photos of front box and instructions?
Did you also check those parts?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | May 28, 2019 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
|
Thanks for helping
The early version is like this:
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html
But how can one know if it is from 1986 or 1987 or... unless if the original
catalog is still in the box. (TLG always put a catalog inside all the boxes)
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Well I just checked and its catalog 102917 which is from the early 90's so
now I'm even more confused!
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Could you please attach photos of front box and instructions?
Did you also check those parts?
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I didn't I was in the middle of filling orders and just happened to be where
the set was. I'll see if I can do that this evening.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | May 29, 2019 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
|
Thanks for helping
The early version is like this:
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html
But how can one know if it is from 1986 or 1987 or... unless if the original
catalog is still in the box. (TLG always put a catalog inside all the boxes)
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Well I just checked and its catalog 102917 which is from the early 90's so
now I'm even more confused!
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Could you please attach photos of front box and instructions?
Did you also check those parts?
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computer/phone is acting up, I can email you the photos directly if you'd
like, but I can't seem to get them off my phone to post here.
As far as the parts go, forgive me but these inventory threads read like braille
japanese to me, if you tell me what part in what color to check for, I'll
be happy to. Otherwise I've read it several times and I'm still lost.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 29, 2019 12:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Adjour writes:
| | Can I help in any way?
I have a copy of this set that I'm 100% positive is original parts, with
box, forgive me if I missed it, how do I tell which version I have?
|
Thanks for helping
The early version is like this:
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html
But how can one know if it is from 1986 or 1987 or... unless if the original
catalog is still in the box. (TLG always put a catalog inside all the boxes)
|
Well I just checked and its catalog 102917 which is from the early 90's so
now I'm even more confused!
|
Could you please attach photos of front box and instructions?
Did you also check those parts?
|
computer/phone is acting up, I can email you the photos directly if you'd
like, but I can't seem to get them off my phone to post here.
As far as the parts go, forgive me but these inventory threads read like braille
japanese to me, if you tell me what part in what color to check for, I'll
be happy to. Otherwise I've read it several times and I'm still lost.
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Look for parts
* | | 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge |
and
* | | 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge |
in red. Do they have solid studs or hollow studs?
Look for part
in light gray. Is it version
or
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 28, 2019 01:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Ok, this is a challenging one.
This set was produced between 1986-92 but in US (and Canada?) it was released
only since 1989. So we do not get much info about the concerning parts by checking
the market of USA (like worthpoint)
The boxes (and instructions) of Model team sets (5510-1, 5580-1, 5590-1,...)
appeared in two versions. I read on brickset that the second version was released
in 1990 but I think it was changed since 1989 (like the boxes of trains, supplemental
sets for trains,...) As you see in the photos, there is a catalog of 1989
So this particular NIB copy does not help with whether the early versions of
hinges and clips came also with this set or not.
Hinges: the later versions 4276 and 4275 were released since very early 1985.
Since we do not have a proof that the hinges with hollow studs appeared in early
productions of this set, I think we should remove them.
Clips: I know that the clips 4081 were produced first in 1985 and appeared in
early released of 7817-1 and 7745-1 as alternate but also, it appeared in some
sets form 1986-7 in other colors (probably in the US market)!
I have not seen them in any used copy of this set but if they came in some early
releases, we are probably looking to find a rare released (something like 0.5%
of total releases of this set). The cautious decision would be to keep them as
alternate (as that would be very rare) otherwise we can just remove them.
https://picclick.co.uk/Lego-5580-Highway-Rig-1986-Model-Team-W-333200914409.html#&gid=1&pid=9
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Hi Reza -
I have no problem removing the older hinges and the older clips since all the
evidence I can find also points to hollow stud hinges and thick ring clips for
this set. By removing the older versions, someone would have to provide really
good evidence in the future to add them back in.
I think it is much better to have inventories based on what we know for sure
than what we may or may not know depending on what is assumed to be possible.
Cheers,
Randy
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