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| | | Author: | SchmickBricks  | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2019 04:30 | | Subject: | Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 98 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Implemented | |
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| Can we please have an option to search our inventory for items without dimensions
in the catalogue? There is already an option to search for items without a catalogue
weight or items that won't work with instant checkout, but it won't help
with finding items that are set as weight bound by default with no dimensions
(Curved train track, some rollercoaster track) which are potentially too big
to send in a letter.
Prohibiting new sets from being inventoried without all the parts having weights
and dimensions would be a big help too, providing users don't add arbitrary
values which seems to be the case for 99% of instruction books at the moment.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2019 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | Can we please have an option to search our inventory for items without dimensions
in the catalogue? There is already an option to search for items without a catalogue
weight or items that won't work with instant checkout, but it won't help
with finding items that are set as weight bound by default with no dimensions
(Curved train track, some rollercoaster track) which are potentially too big
to send in a letter.
Prohibiting new sets from being inventoried without all the parts having weights
and dimensions would be a big help too, providing users don't add arbitrary
values which seems to be the case for 99% of instruction books at the moment.
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There are more than 20,000 items in the catalog without dimensions. Catalog dimensions
are only added when the item fits within the normal stud/brick height system.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=3&itemDim=0
1x1 brick: dimensions are 1x1x1 in studs
minifig torso: ?
If it can't be reasonably measured in studs vs brick height, a part will
have no data at all.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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| | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 08:16 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | Can we please have an option to search our inventory for items without dimensions
in the catalogue? There is already an option to search for items without a catalogue
weight or items that won't work with instant checkout, but it won't help
with finding items that are set as weight bound by default with no dimensions
(Curved train track, some rollercoaster track) which are potentially too big
to send in a letter.
Prohibiting new sets from being inventoried without all the parts having weights
and dimensions would be a big help too, providing users don't add arbitrary
values which seems to be the case for 99% of instruction books at the moment.
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There are more than 20,000 items in the catalog without dimensions. Catalog dimensions
are only added when the item fits within the normal stud/brick height system.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=3&itemDim=0
1x1 brick: dimensions are 1x1x1 in studs
minifig torso: ?
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If it can't be reasonably measured in studs vs brick height, a part will
have no data at all.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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No, that doesn't help at all. Why can't sellers have an option to search
their inventory for items without dimensions so we can add our own? Unfortunately
there are a lot of items in the catalogue without dimensions that have been set
by default as weight bound rather than volume bound that can't (In Australia
at least) be sent as a large letter as they will exceed the 20mm maximum thickness.
This wasn't as big an issue in the past, but now with instant checkout it
is. Why should it matter if an item does or doesn't fit within the normal
stud/brick height system? Surely the main purpose of dimensions is for calculating
postage costs?
It's not that difficult to pull out a ruler or tape measure and measure
something. I'm happy to do it myself to my own inventory, just give me the
option to search for items that don't have catalogue dimensions like we can
for items without weight.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 09:56 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
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No, that doesn't help at all. Why can't sellers have an option to search
their inventory for items without dimensions so we can add our own? Unfortunately
there are a lot of items in the catalogue without dimensions that have been set
by default as weight bound rather than volume bound that can't (In Australia
at least) be sent as a large letter as they will exceed the 20mm maximum thickness.
This wasn't as big an issue in the past, but now with instant checkout it
is. Why should it matter if an item does or doesn't fit within the normal
stud/brick height system? Surely the main purpose of dimensions is for calculating
postage costs?
It's not that difficult to pull out a ruler or tape measure and measure
something. I'm happy to do it myself to my own inventory, just give me the
option to search for items that don't have catalogue dimensions like we can
for items without weight.
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First, I didn't make this system and I would certainly NEVER defend it.
I was just trying to explain some the details.
Second, you can absolutely look up parts missing shipping dimensions in your
inventory. I don't use Instant Checkout, but I believe there is a checkbox
for Instant Checkout Unavailable on your My Inventory page.
Your original post seemed to be asking about item dimensions which are not the
same thing.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Etown | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 23:32 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
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No, that doesn't help at all. Why can't sellers have an option to search
their inventory for items without dimensions so we can add our own? Unfortunately
there are a lot of items in the catalogue without dimensions that have been set
by default as weight bound rather than volume bound that can't (In Australia
at least) be sent as a large letter as they will exceed the 20mm maximum thickness.
This wasn't as big an issue in the past, but now with instant checkout it
is. Why should it matter if an item does or doesn't fit within the normal
stud/brick height system? Surely the main purpose of dimensions is for calculating
postage costs?
It's not that difficult to pull out a ruler or tape measure and measure
something. I'm happy to do it myself to my own inventory, just give me the
option to search for items that don't have catalogue dimensions like we can
for items without weight.
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First, I didn't make this system and I would certainly NEVER defend it.
I was just trying to explain some the details.
Second, you can absolutely look up parts missing shipping dimensions in your
inventory. I don't use Instant Checkout, but I believe there is a checkbox
for Instant Checkout Unavailable on your My Inventory page.
Your original post seemed to be asking about item dimensions which are not the
same thing.
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I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 09:26 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Etown | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 17:02 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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Hi Jennifer,
Like I said, there is no box to search for "dimensions unavailable". The box
that you've selected only searches for items that you've already set
to 'manual' meaning they can't be included in an instant checkout
order. What we need is a box that selects items that have no dimensions listed
in the Bricklink catalogue so that we as sellers can either enter the dimensions
ourselves or set the item to 'manual'.
Ron
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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Hi Jennifer,
Like I said, there is no box to search for "dimensions unavailable". The box
that you've selected only searches for items that you've already set
to 'manual' meaning they can't be included in an instant checkout
order. What we need is a box that selects items that have no dimensions listed
in the Bricklink catalogue so that we as sellers can either enter the dimensions
ourselves or set the item to 'manual'.
Ron
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It is not correct to say that the search only returns results for items you've
already set to manual. That search returns results for the following:
All items set to manual;
All items with no weight at all;
All items with weight but no dimensions and set volume bound (such as instructions).
The images below are from that exact search in my inventory and all of those
items will not be in an IC order
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 23:03 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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Hi Jennifer,
Like I said, there is no box to search for "dimensions unavailable". The box
that you've selected only searches for items that you've already set
to 'manual' meaning they can't be included in an instant checkout
order. What we need is a box that selects items that have no dimensions listed
in the Bricklink catalogue so that we as sellers can either enter the dimensions
ourselves or set the item to 'manual'.
Ron
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It is not correct to say that the search only returns results for items you've
already set to manual. That search returns results for the following:
All items set to manual;
All items with no weight at all;
All items with weight but no dimensions and set volume bound (such as instructions).
The images below are from that exact search in my inventory and all of those
items will not be in an IC order
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Correct. That search though will not find items that are set as weight bound
(by default)that have no catalogue dimensions. This is the tool we need to
find items too large to be sent as large letter.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Etown | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2019 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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Hi Jennifer,
Like I said, there is no box to search for "dimensions unavailable". The box
that you've selected only searches for items that you've already set
to 'manual' meaning they can't be included in an instant checkout
order. What we need is a box that selects items that have no dimensions listed
in the Bricklink catalogue so that we as sellers can either enter the dimensions
ourselves or set the item to 'manual'.
Ron
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It is not correct to say that the search only returns results for items you've
already set to manual. That search returns results for the following:
All items set to manual;
All items with no weight at all;
All items with weight but no dimensions and set volume bound (such as instructions).
The images below are from that exact search in my inventory and all of those
items will not be in an IC order
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This is true, my explanation was overly simplistic.
However, the issue at hand I believe is that there are items that do not have
dimensions AND are set to weight bound by default. Like I said in another post,
I accept responsibility for my mistake. However, if there was a tool provided
that allowed us to search our inventory for ALL items that do not have dimensions
entered, it would be very useful.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 19:53 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Etown writes:
I would like to go back to the beginning of this thread point out that I was
just trying to add information where there was confusion, that I do not use or
have a working knowledge of the Instant Checkout system nor am I defending it,
that my knowledge is limited to the Catalog only (which I know a great deal about,)
and that I am sorry for causing any trouble.
Good luck all at working out these issues!
Out...
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 23:01 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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Hi Jennifer,
Like I said, there is no box to search for "dimensions unavailable". The box
that you've selected only searches for items that you've already set
to 'manual' meaning they can't be included in an instant checkout
order. What we need is a box that selects items that have no dimensions listed
in the Bricklink catalogue so that we as sellers can either enter the dimensions
ourselves or set the item to 'manual'.
Ron
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Yes. Exactly. Finally someone understands what I'm asking. The current
tools available will not find items in our inventory that are set as weight bound
(by default in the catalogue) that have no dimensions which is what is causing
the problems with IC.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 22:57 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, Etown writes:
| | I was just coming to suggest this very thing. Before I did though I checked,
and no, there is no such box. That would probably be one of those "inventory
management tools" that were promised years ago but have yet to materialise.
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As mentioned previously using the "instant checkout unavailable" tool will only
find items that are volume bound without dimensions or weight bound without
weight. It will not find items that are set as weight bound without dimensions
that are too big to be sent as a large letter, which is what is causing all the
problems. For instance if a BURP was set as weight bound and had no catalogue
dimensions Instant checkout will allow it to be sent as a 20mm thick letter.
Clearly it will never fit unless I run over the piece with a truck several dozen
times first. Unfortunately there are many catalogue items set as weight bound
by default that clearly shouldn't be - like train track.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 22:47 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
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No, that doesn't help at all. Why can't sellers have an option to search
their inventory for items without dimensions so we can add our own? Unfortunately
there are a lot of items in the catalogue without dimensions that have been set
by default as weight bound rather than volume bound that can't (In Australia
at least) be sent as a large letter as they will exceed the 20mm maximum thickness.
This wasn't as big an issue in the past, but now with instant checkout it
is. Why should it matter if an item does or doesn't fit within the normal
stud/brick height system? Surely the main purpose of dimensions is for calculating
postage costs?
It's not that difficult to pull out a ruler or tape measure and measure
something. I'm happy to do it myself to my own inventory, just give me the
option to search for items that don't have catalogue dimensions like we can
for items without weight.
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First, I didn't make this system and I would certainly NEVER defend it.
I was just trying to explain some the details.
Second, you can absolutely look up parts missing shipping dimensions in your
inventory. I don't use Instant Checkout, but I believe there is a checkbox
for Instant Checkout Unavailable on your My Inventory page.
Your original post seemed to be asking about item dimensions which are not the
same thing.
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No. What I am asking for is to be able to search for items in the catalogue that
do not have dimensions. This cannot be done currently. You can only search
for catalogue items without weight. Yes you can do a search for items that won't
work with instant checkout, but as previously mentioned this won't pickup
items that are listed as weight bound, have a catalogue weight but no dimensions
and are too big to be sent as a large letter.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2019 01:48 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | No. What I am asking for is to be able to search for items in the catalogue that
do not have dimensions. This cannot be done currently. You can only search
for catalogue items without weight. Yes you can do a search for items that won't
work with instant checkout, but as previously mentioned this won't pickup
items that are listed as weight bound, have a catalogue weight but no dimensions
and are too big to be sent as a large letter.
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Here are all items in the BrickLink catalog that do not have dimensions:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?v=3&itemDim=0
Please note that these are the dimensions displayed on the catalog page of each
item and *not* the dimensions used in the instant checkout functionality.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2019 03:41 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | No. What I am asking for is to be able to search for items in the catalogue that
do not have dimensions. This cannot be done currently. You can only search
for catalogue items without weight. Yes you can do a search for items that won't
work with instant checkout, but as previously mentioned this won't pickup
items that are listed as weight bound, have a catalogue weight but no dimensions
and are too big to be sent as a large letter.
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Here are all items in the BrickLink catalog that do not have dimensions:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?v=3&itemDim=0
Please note that these are the dimensions displayed on the catalog page of each
item and *not* the dimensions used in the instant checkout functionality.
Cheers,
Randy
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I haven't clicked on every one of the categories you listed, but of the ones
I did look at every one of those was a set. Sets aren't the problem since
they're never going to be sent as a letter anyway. It is the individual
parts without dimensions that are the problem.
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| | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 09:06 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | Can we please have an option to search our inventory for items without dimensions
in the catalogue? There is already an option to search for items without a catalogue
weight or items that won't work with instant checkout, but it won't help
with finding items that are set as weight bound by default with no dimensions
(Curved train track, some rollercoaster track) which are potentially too big
to send in a letter.
Prohibiting new sets from being inventoried without all the parts having weights
and dimensions would be a big help too, providing users don't add arbitrary
values which seems to be the case for 99% of instruction books at the moment.
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There are more than 20,000 items in the catalog without dimensions. Catalog dimensions
are only added when the item fits within the normal stud/brick height system.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=3&itemDim=0
1x1 brick: dimensions are 1x1x1 in studs
minifig torso: ?
If it can't be reasonably measured in studs vs brick height, a part will
have no data at all.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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This is one of the incongruities of BrickLink. Dimensions are measured in studs
(system or duplo) in the Catalog, but the override fields below a lot entry are
in millimeters.
For example, a Duplo Brick 2600 shows on the catalog page as "Size: 2 x 6 x 1
in studs", but underneath a listed lot it is …
DimX(mm): 96mm
DimY(mm): 23.6mm
DimZ: (mm) 32mm
(and yes, the semi-colon is used inconsistently there)
I do not wish that we entered by studs for manual overrides, but it's clear
to me that the system is converting from one to another for the benefit of IC.
It's also clear that you can override any part to any set of dimensions if
you wanted to.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 09:50 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | This is one of the incongruities of BrickLink. Dimensions are measured in studs
(system or duplo) in the Catalog, but the override fields below a lot entry are
in millimeters.
For example, a Duplo Brick 2600 shows on the catalog page as "Size: 2 x 6 x 1
in studs", but underneath a listed lot it is …
DimX(mm): 96mm
DimY(mm): 23.6mm
DimZ: (mm) 32mm
(and yes, the semi-colon is used inconsistently there)
I do not wish that we entered by studs for manual overrides, but it's clear
to me that the system is converting from one to another for the benefit of IC.
It's also clear that you can override any part to any set of dimensions if
you wanted to.
Nita Rae
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The incongruity exists because BL has not yet decided to implement the newer
shipping data within the existing catalog structure and database.
Each part has a data field in the catalog for Item Dimensions (listed on each
catalog page as Size.) This is measured approximately in studs / brick height.
The data is supplied by members and is maintained by the Catalog Admin though
the forms on the Add or Change tab.
The newer shipping dimensions data was put in place along with Instant Checkout.
This data is only in mm. The data is not visible except on the My Inventory and
Order Detail pages. The data is maintained by the staff at BrickLink and is submitted
by members on a thread here in the Forum. I believe they originally calculated
many of their measurements from the catalog Item Dimensions data. They have not
maintained consistency in which measurements are X, Y, or Z, or how precise measurements
must be. However, you can change the data for each part in your own shop from
your Inventory detail page.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 10:43 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | This is one of the incongruities of BrickLink. Dimensions are measured in studs
(system or duplo) in the Catalog, but the override fields below a lot entry are
in millimeters.
For example, a Duplo Brick 2600 shows on the catalog page as "Size: 2 x 6 x 1
in studs", but underneath a listed lot it is …
DimX(mm): 96mm
DimY(mm): 23.6mm
DimZ: (mm) 32mm
(and yes, the semi-colon is used inconsistently there)
I do not wish that we entered by studs for manual overrides, but it's clear
to me that the system is converting from one to another for the benefit of IC.
It's also clear that you can override any part to any set of dimensions if
you wanted to.
Nita Rae
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The incongruity exists because BL has not yet decided to implement the newer
shipping data within the existing catalog structure and database.
Each part has a data field in the catalog for Item Dimensions (listed on each
catalog page as Size.) This is measured approximately in studs / brick height.
The data is supplied by members and is maintained by the Catalog Admin though
the forms on the Add or Change tab.
The newer shipping dimensions data was put in place along with Instant Checkout.
This data is only in mm. The data is not visible except on the My Inventory and
Order Detail pages. The data is maintained by the staff at BrickLink and is submitted
by members on a thread here in the Forum. I believe they originally calculated
many of their measurements from the catalog Item Dimensions data. They have not
maintained consistency in which measurements are X, Y, or Z, or how precise measurements
must be. However, you can change the data for each part in your own shop from
your Inventory detail page.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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Ahhh, thank you. That clears up a misunderstanding on my part, as I thought one
was being dynamically converted from the other on the fly. Now I see that it
was a one-shot, when they originally loaded the parts IC database.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 06:44 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | This is one of the incongruities of BrickLink. Dimensions are measured in studs
(system or duplo) in the Catalog, but the override fields below a lot entry are
in millimeters.
For example, a Duplo Brick 2600 shows on the catalog page as "Size: 2 x 6 x 1
in studs", but underneath a listed lot it is …
DimX(mm): 96mm
DimY(mm): 23.6mm
DimZ: (mm) 32mm
(and yes, the semi-colon is used inconsistently there)
I do not wish that we entered by studs for manual overrides, but it's clear
to me that the system is converting from one to another for the benefit of IC.
It's also clear that you can override any part to any set of dimensions if
you wanted to.
Nita Rae
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The incongruity exists because BL has not yet decided to implement the newer
shipping data within the existing catalog structure and database.
Each part has a data field in the catalog for Item Dimensions (listed on each
catalog page as Size.) This is measured approximately in studs / brick height.
The data is supplied by members and is maintained by the Catalog Admin though
the forms on the Add or Change tab.
The newer shipping dimensions data was put in place along with Instant Checkout.
This data is only in mm. The data is not visible except on the My Inventory and
Order Detail pages. The data is maintained by the staff at BrickLink and is submitted
by members on a thread here in the Forum. I believe they originally calculated
many of their measurements from the catalog Item Dimensions data. They have not
maintained consistency in which measurements are X, Y, or Z, or how precise measurements
must be. However, you can change the data for each part in your own shop from
your Inventory detail page.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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One thing that has not come up here … Is there a 1:1 relationship between which
catalog entry (for parts) have brick stud dimensions and which IC entries have
hidden mm dimensions ? IOW, are the two traveling in sync with one another ?
I just went and did a Parts.XML download from the catalog. In it I see X/Y/Z
dimensions in studs (just like what's on the Catalog page). Can I reliably
infer that parts in that download missing dimensions are also missing in the
IC database, are that they even match (mathematically speaking) ?
Then I took one set at random (1356-1) … Both the catalog page and the download
show dimensions in cm. But the fields below a lot entry are in mm. That would
seem to be an easy calculation provided that they are more closely in sync than
the parts may be.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 09:49 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
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One thing that has not come up here … Is there a 1:1 relationship between which
catalog entry (for parts) have brick stud dimensions and which IC entries have
hidden mm dimensions ? IOW, are the two traveling in sync with one another ?
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No
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I just went and did a Parts.XML download from the catalog. In it I see X/Y/Z
dimensions in studs (just like what's on the Catalog page). Can I reliably
infer that parts in that download missing dimensions are also missing in the
IC database, are that they even match (mathematically speaking) ?
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Alas no
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Then I took one set at random (1356-1) … Both the catalog page and the download
show dimensions in cm. But the fields below a lot entry are in mm. That would
seem to be an easy calculation provided that they are more closely in sync than
the parts may be.
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If you part the set out using Bricklink's tool for doing so and break the
minifigs into parts as well, you will see for that particular set that the minifigs
will be weight bound as well as all the torso assemblies and all the minifig
heads, all the other parts have IC dimensions. The easiest way still to check
inventory for missing dimensions is still the inventory setting for IC not available.
The easiest method to check for missing details when uploading is also unfortunately
to use the part-out tool in Bricklink (I forget to do this as a check from time
to time since I've stopped using Bricklink altogether for uploading inventory),
you cannot get that information from Brickstock either.
Jean
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 21:24 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
snip
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One thing that has not come up here … Is there a 1:1 relationship between which
catalog entry (for parts) have brick stud dimensions and which IC entries have
hidden mm dimensions ? IOW, are the two traveling in sync with one another ?
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No
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I just went and did a Parts.XML download from the catalog. In it I see X/Y/Z
dimensions in studs (just like what's on the Catalog page). Can I reliably
infer that parts in that download missing dimensions are also missing in the
IC database, are that they even match (mathematically speaking) ?
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Alas no
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Then I took one set at random (1356-1) … Both the catalog page and the download
show dimensions in cm. But the fields below a lot entry are in mm. That would
seem to be an easy calculation provided that they are more closely in sync than
the parts may be.
|
If you part the set out using Bricklink's tool for doing so and break the
minifigs into parts as well, you will see for that particular set that the minifigs
will be weight bound as well as all the torso assemblies and all the minifig
heads, all the other parts have IC dimensions. The easiest way still to check
inventory for missing dimensions is still the inventory setting for IC not available.
The easiest method to check for missing details when uploading is also unfortunately
to use the part-out tool in Bricklink (I forget to do this as a check from time
to time since I've stopped using Bricklink altogether for uploading inventory),
you cannot get that information from Brickstock either.
Jean
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OK, the 'IC not available' option (which I only now realize exists) says
I have 104 lots that are not IC complete. They are, based on a cursory scan,
all in Original Boxes, Catalogs, Instructions, Sticker Sheets, Gear, Trading
Cards, and a couple of custom lots. As far as I can tell, nothing in my Parts,
Sets, or Minifigs is in that list, so the core items of my inventory should pass
muster (assuming the given numbers are legitimate, which for a few sets have
proven to be otherwise).
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SchmickBricks | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2019 22:50 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | This is one of the incongruities of BrickLink. Dimensions are measured in studs
(system or duplo) in the Catalog, but the override fields below a lot entry are
in millimeters.
For example, a Duplo Brick 2600 shows on the catalog page as "Size: 2 x 6 x 1
in studs", but underneath a listed lot it is …
DimX(mm): 96mm
DimY(mm): 23.6mm
DimZ: (mm) 32mm
(and yes, the semi-colon is used inconsistently there)
I do not wish that we entered by studs for manual overrides, but it's clear
to me that the system is converting from one to another for the benefit of IC.
It's also clear that you can override any part to any set of dimensions if
you wanted to.
Nita Rae
|
The incongruity exists because BL has not yet decided to implement the newer
shipping data within the existing catalog structure and database.
Each part has a data field in the catalog for Item Dimensions (listed on each
catalog page as Size.) This is measured approximately in studs / brick height.
The data is supplied by members and is maintained by the Catalog Admin though
the forms on the Add or Change tab.
The newer shipping dimensions data was put in place along with Instant Checkout.
This data is only in mm. The data is not visible except on the My Inventory and
Order Detail pages. The data is maintained by the staff at BrickLink and is submitted
by members on a thread here in the Forum. I believe they originally calculated
many of their measurements from the catalog Item Dimensions data. They have not
maintained consistency in which measurements are X, Y, or Z, or how precise measurements
must be. However, you can change the data for each part in your own shop from
your Inventory detail page.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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Yes I understand that, but there is still no easy solution for finding which
items don't have catalogue dimensions without searching through each lot,
which is what I am asking for. We can search items with no catalogue weight,
but can not search for items with no catalogue dimensions.
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| | | | | Author: | Etown | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2019 23:36 | | Subject: | Re: Search for parts without dimensions | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | Can we please have an option to search our inventory for items without dimensions
in the catalogue? There is already an option to search for items without a catalogue
weight or items that won't work with instant checkout, but it won't help
with finding items that are set as weight bound by default with no dimensions
(Curved train track, some rollercoaster track) which are potentially too big
to send in a letter.
Prohibiting new sets from being inventoried without all the parts having weights
and dimensions would be a big help too, providing users don't add arbitrary
values which seems to be the case for 99% of instruction books at the moment.
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Yes, this!!
I just had another IC order in which a part that is too large to fit through
the 2 cm Canada Post mail slot did not have proper dimensions entered and thus
I will likely have to eat at least $9.00 CAD in shipping costs. I get it, it's
as much my fault as it is Bricklink's, maybe more so. But I will admit that
it is frustrating to see all the work that BL is putting into this AFOL meanwhile
the promised inventory engagement tools are still not here. I'll admit, I
know next to nothing about programming, but I can't imagine it would be overly
difficult to implement this suggestion and add a way that we sellers could quickly
identify the items in our inventory that cause these issues.
I'm hoping to see this one implemented quickly. Meanwhile, I guess I'm
searching through my inventory to find other culprits....
Ron
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