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 Author: Admin View Messages Posted By Admin
 Posted: Feb 1, 2019 13:59
 Subject: Crowdfunding is officially open!
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In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
 Author: Bricksbelgium View Messages Posted By Bricksbelgium
 Posted: Feb 1, 2019 14:59
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How will customs be done for all Europeans ?





n NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Feb 2, 2019 03:09
 Subject: Re: Crowdfunding is officially open!
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In Buying, Bricksbelgium writes:
  How will customs be done for all Europeans ?



It's packed in the USA, so I'm pretty sure you will have to pay custom
fee.
 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
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The fee depend on declared value. So lower this value can reduce the fee or
even cancel them (I didn't have to pay customs fee for a small order like
15$ but have paid significant amount of money years ago for 200$ order in the
US).

It also depend on what current trading agreement (TTIP/TAFTA/whatever they name
the next one) is valid for the area, and this may change.

There is this page in French:
https://ec.europa.eu/france/news/ttip_fr



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  In Buying, Bricksbelgium writes:
  How will customs be done for all Europeans ?



It's packed in the USA, so I'm pretty sure you will have to pay custom
fee.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Feb 2, 2019 12:08
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In Buying, JusTiCe8 writes:
  The fee depend on declared value. So lower this value can reduce the fee or
even cancel them (I didn't have to pay customs fee for a small order like
15$ but have paid significant amount of money years ago for 200$ order in the
US).

This is just a hunch, but I am quite sure that BrickLink Limited, the company,
is *not* going to forge custom's documents by artificially lowering the value
of the goods. That would be unlawful.

Randy
 Author: BigBBricks View Messages Posted By BigBBricks
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In Buying, randyf writes:
  In Buying, JusTiCe8 writes:
  The fee depend on declared value. So lower this value can reduce the fee or
even cancel them (I didn't have to pay customs fee for a small order like
15$ but have paid significant amount of money years ago for 200$ order in the
US).

This is just a hunch, but I am quite sure that BrickLink Limited, the company,
is *not* going to forge custom's documents by artificially lowering the value
of the goods. That would be unlawful.

Randy

+1
 Author: Rarah View Messages Posted By Rarah
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In Buying, BigBBricks writes:
  In Buying, randyf writes:
  In Buying, JusTiCe8 writes:
  The fee depend on declared value. So lower this value can reduce the fee or
even cancel them (I didn't have to pay customs fee for a small order like
15$ but have paid significant amount of money years ago for 200$ order in the
US).

This is just a hunch, but I am quite sure that BrickLink Limited, the company,
is *not* going to forge custom's documents by artificially lowering the value
of the goods. That would be unlawful.

Randy

+1

Everything above EUR 22 I think will have tax on it (based on your country and
for me that is +20% + customs fee above € 140 I think of additional 3,5 -7% and
handling fee for the post office to do the customs clearance .. so for me that
is 25%+ to the set value and I am from Slovakia.
 Author: udomino View Messages Posted By udomino
 Posted: Feb 2, 2019 12:17
 Subject: Customs and toy safety warnings
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Hi!
There are several problems with the customs, at least in Germany.
Trying to buy a set from someone in the USA, the customs explained that if toys
are exported into the European Union, there are several properties that need
to be found on the package:
1) The CE marking
2) The choking hazard declaration in German language
3) The age warning symbol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_safety#/media/File:Age_warning_symbol.svg
You will also find on Wiki which safety standards are requested in various countries.
If all the necessary texts and information of all regions and countries would
be printed on a box then there will not be much place for a picture of the contents.

Therfore Lego has various packagings for different regions, and the packaging
for the USA is not valid for the German market.

Regarding cost, this will be about 25€ for Germany - per set!

Since I was not able to receive the set I had bought in the USA from customs
who explained to me the points mentioned above, the set had to be sent back to
the USA.

Therefore currently I will not order any of the sets, sorry.

Best Regards

Udo



In Buying, Bricksbelgium writes:
  How will customs be done for all Europeans ?





n NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: Feb 2, 2019 13:31
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In Buying, udomino writes:
  Hi!
There are several problems with the customs, at least in Germany.
Trying to buy a set from someone in the USA, the customs explained that if toys
are exported into the European Union, there are several properties that need
to be found on the package:
1) The CE marking
2) The choking hazard declaration in German language
3) The age warning symbol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_safety#/media/File:Age_warning_symbol.svg
You will also find on Wiki which safety standards are requested in various countries.
If all the necessary texts and information of all regions and countries would
be printed on a box then there will not be much place for a picture of the contents.

Therfore Lego has various packagings for different regions, and the packaging
for the USA is not valid for the German market.

Regarding cost, this will be about 25€ for Germany - per set!

Since I was not able to receive the set I had bought in the USA from customs
who explained to me the points mentioned above, the set had to be sent back to
the USA.

Therefore currently I will not order any of the sets, sorry.

Best Regards

Udo





But there is no need to officially declare these sets as toys for children, then
what essentially matters is that the correct value is declared. I have about
10 times so far ordered custom minifigure accessories from both Brickforge and
Brickwarriors directly from the USA and never had that kind of problem. As long
as the correct declaration is attached to the outside of the package (this is
really important because the customs need to be able to figure out the value
without opening the package), it should go smoothly. Normally the shipment will
be cleared and the postal service will collect the taxes + dues right on the
spot when delivering the package to your home address. If the declaration form
is missing, then you will get contacted by customs and will have to show proof
of purchase and the correct value of the goods in person (i.e. go straight to
the customs office). This is less convenient but also not a big deal.
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In Buying, udomino writes:
  Hi!
There are several problems with the customs, at least in Germany.
Trying to buy a set from someone in the USA, the customs explained that if toys
are exported into the European Union, there are several properties that need
to be found on the package:
1) The CE marking
2) The choking hazard declaration in German language
3) The age warning symbol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_safety#/media/File:Age_warning_symbol.svg
You will also find on Wiki which safety standards are requested in various countries.
If all the necessary texts and information of all regions and countries would
be printed on a box then there will not be much place for a picture of the contents.

Therfore Lego has various packagings for different regions, and the packaging
for the USA is not valid for the German market.

Regarding cost, this will be about 25€ for Germany - per set!

Since I was not able to receive the set I had bought in the USA from customs
who explained to me the points mentioned above, the set had to be sent back to
the USA.

Therefore currently I will not order any of the sets, sorry.

Best Regards

Udo





But there is no need to officially declare these sets as toys for children, then
what essentially matters is that the correct value is declared. I have about
10 times so far ordered custom minifigure accessories from both Brickforge and
Brickwarriors directly from the USA and never had that kind of problem. As long
as the correct declaration is attached to the outside of the package (this is
really important because the customs need to be able to figure out the value
without opening the package), it should go smoothly. Normally the shipment will
be cleared and the postal service will collect the taxes + dues right on the
spot when delivering the package to your home address. If the declaration form
is missing, then you will get contacted by customs and will have to show proof
of purchase and the correct value of the goods in person (i.e. go straight to
the customs office). This is less convenient but also not a big deal.
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In Buying, udomino writes:
  Hi!
There are several problems with the customs, at least in Germany.
Trying to buy a set from someone in the USA, the customs explained that if toys
are exported into the European Union, there are several properties that need
to be found on the package:
1) The CE marking
2) The choking hazard declaration in German language
3) The age warning symbol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_safety#/media/File:Age_warning_symbol.svg
You will also find on Wiki which safety standards are requested in various countries.
If all the necessary texts and information of all regions and countries would
be printed on a box then there will not be much place for a picture of the contents.

Therfore Lego has various packagings for different regions, and the packaging
for the USA is not valid for the German market.

Regarding cost, this will be about 25€ for Germany - per set!

Since I was not able to receive the set I had bought in the USA from customs
who explained to me the points mentioned above, the set had to be sent back to
the USA.

Therefore currently I will not order any of the sets, sorry.

Best Regards

Udo

For years and years collectors from Germany have been successfully buying special
LEGO items not distributed in Europe, and I don't believe it is any different
now. So please do not spread these rumors about our sets not being allowed through
customs.

We will be posting some FAQs in the coming days concerning VAT, customs duties,
and carrier fees, and any other questions that may arise.
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In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, udomino writes:
  Hi!
There are several problems with the customs, at least in Germany.
Trying to buy a set from someone in the USA, the customs explained that if toys
are exported into the European Union, there are several properties that need
to be found on the package:
1) The CE marking
2) The choking hazard declaration in German language
3) The age warning symbol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_safety#/media/File:Age_warning_symbol.svg
You will also find on Wiki which safety standards are requested in various countries.
If all the necessary texts and information of all regions and countries would
be printed on a box then there will not be much place for a picture of the contents.

Therfore Lego has various packagings for different regions, and the packaging
for the USA is not valid for the German market.

Regarding cost, this will be about 25€ for Germany - per set!

Since I was not able to receive the set I had bought in the USA from customs
who explained to me the points mentioned above, the set had to be sent back to
the USA.

Therefore currently I will not order any of the sets, sorry.

Best Regards

Udo

For years and years collectors from Germany have been successfully buying special
LEGO items not distributed in Europe, and I don't believe it is any different
now. So please do not spread these rumors about our sets not being allowed through
customs.

But as you also know, very recently these laws have changed significantly in
Germany. So I don't think facts about the past are relevant here. The question
is how / to what extend these German laws are being enforced. From how I understood
it, you need a contract with a German waste processing company or else you cannot
ship these to Germany. But I'm sure alot of German sellers can clarify.
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In Buying, Teup writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:

  For years and years collectors from Germany have been successfully buying special
LEGO items not distributed in Europe, and I don't believe it is any different
now. So please do not spread these rumors about our sets not being allowed through
customs.

But as you also know, very recently these laws have changed significantly in
Germany. So I don't think facts about the past are relevant here. The question
is how / to what extend these German laws are being enforced. From how I understood
it, you need a contract with a German waste processing company or else you cannot
ship these to Germany. But I'm sure alot of German sellers can clarify.

We are working with a shipping company that ships every day into Europe. They
know the rules as they are practiced and we will follow every necessary step
to ensure the safe and quick delivery of our product.
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In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, Teup writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:

  For years and years collectors from Germany have been successfully buying special
LEGO items not distributed in Europe, and I don't believe it is any different
now. So please do not spread these rumors about our sets not being allowed through
customs.

But as you also know, very recently these laws have changed significantly in
Germany. So I don't think facts about the past are relevant here. The question
is how / to what extend these German laws are being enforced. From how I understood
it, you need a contract with a German waste processing company or else you cannot
ship these to Germany. But I'm sure alot of German sellers can clarify.

We are working with a shipping company that ships every day into Europe. They
know the rules as they are practiced and we will follow every necessary step
to ensure the safe and quick delivery of our product.

Some of the additional costs for EU buyers will be VAT and handling fees for
the collection of VAT.

For a $100 set price, this equates to about £77 for UK users. VAT will be £15.40
then there will be a further £8 for collection of the VAT if delivered via Royal
Mail. So UK users should be aware that a $100 set will cost them just over £100.
Prices will be similar for other EU buyers.

It would have been good to highlight this type of information so buyers do not
feel ripped off when they realise the sets costs significantly more than they
thought.
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, Teup writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:

  For years and years collectors from Germany have been successfully buying special
LEGO items not distributed in Europe, and I don't believe it is any different
now. So please do not spread these rumors about our sets not being allowed through
customs.

But as you also know, very recently these laws have changed significantly in
Germany. So I don't think facts about the past are relevant here. The question
is how / to what extend these German laws are being enforced. From how I understood
it, you need a contract with a German waste processing company or else you cannot
ship these to Germany. But I'm sure alot of German sellers can clarify.

We are working with a shipping company that ships every day into Europe. They
know the rules as they are practiced and we will follow every necessary step
to ensure the safe and quick delivery of our product.

Some of the additional costs for EU buyers will be VAT and handling fees for
the collection of VAT.

For a $100 set price, this equates to about £77 for UK users. VAT will be £15.40
then there will be a further £8 for collection of the VAT if delivered via Royal
Mail. So UK users should be aware that a $100 set will cost them just over £100.
Prices will be similar for other EU buyers.

It would have been good to highlight this type of information so buyers do not
feel ripped off when they realise the sets costs significantly more than they
thought.

We actually did (and do) tell people this when they pre-order. We inform them
that additional fees and taxes may apply. If you pre-order a set, you will see
the exact text.
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In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, Teup writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:

  For years and years collectors from Germany have been successfully buying special
LEGO items not distributed in Europe, and I don't believe it is any different
now. So please do not spread these rumors about our sets not being allowed through
customs.

But as you also know, very recently these laws have changed significantly in
Germany. So I don't think facts about the past are relevant here. The question
is how / to what extend these German laws are being enforced. From how I understood
it, you need a contract with a German waste processing company or else you cannot
ship these to Germany. But I'm sure alot of German sellers can clarify.

We are working with a shipping company that ships every day into Europe. They
know the rules as they are practiced and we will follow every necessary step
to ensure the safe and quick delivery of our product.

Some of the additional costs for EU buyers will be VAT and handling fees for
the collection of VAT.

For a $100 set price, this equates to about £77 for UK users. VAT will be £15.40
then there will be a further £8 for collection of the VAT if delivered via Royal
Mail. So UK users should be aware that a $100 set will cost them just over £100.
Prices will be similar for other EU buyers.

It would have been good to highlight this type of information so buyers do not
feel ripped off when they realise the sets costs significantly more than they
thought.

We actually did (and do) tell people this when they pre-order. We inform them
that additional fees and taxes may apply. If you pre-order a set, you will see
the exact text.

See here also.

How do people know where these are being shipped from though? Unlike normal bricklink
stores there is no country flag, so customers do not know if they are importing
them or not. Plus the language used "shipping country" is ambiguous. Shipping
from or to?

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1128266
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so you can only pay with credit card why not with paypal nobody in europe use
credit card also will there be taxes on it for europeans ?
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  so you can only pay with credit card why not with paypal nobody in europe use
credit card also will there be taxes on it for europeans ?

Couldn't believe it until I checked for myself, that's crazy I don't
know anyone with a credit card..
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Couldn't believe it until I checked for myself, that's crazy I don't
know anyone with a credit card..

I do
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Couldn't believe it until I checked for myself, that's crazy I don't
know anyone with a credit card..

I do

Everyone I know has a debit/credit card (Carte Bleue / Visa, very few Master
Cards).

Almost all the French cards are both debit and credit (it’s a credit if your
account isn’t sufficiently provided; it’s a credit when the debit is delayed
to the next month).
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In Buying, SylvainLS writes:
  In Buying, StarBrick writes:
  
  
Couldn't believe it until I checked for myself, that's crazy I don't
know anyone with a credit card..

I do

Everyone I know has a debit/credit card (Carte Bleue / Visa, very few Master
Cards).

Almost all the French cards are both debit and credit (it’s a credit if your
account isn’t sufficiently provided; it’s a credit when the debit is delayed
to the next month).

I think over here credit cards are typically for people who need it for (international)
business. Otherwise it's not really useful. I don't know about other
banks, but my bank doesn't offer them.
I remember when I went to America I needed to get "visa" of sorts that needed
to be paid by credit card, and it was pretty tricky finding someone who had one.
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  […]
I think over here credit cards are typically for people who need it for (international)
business. Otherwise it's not really useful. I don't know about other
banks, but my bank doesn't offer them.
I remember when I went to America I needed to get "visa" of sorts that needed
to be paid by credit card, and it was pretty tricky finding someone who had one.

It might be because we invented the chip

I also know that we still use a lot of cheques, and that Germans like to have
big bank notes in their pockets….

Europeans are diverse
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In Buying, SylvainLS writes:
  In Buying, Teup writes:
  […]
I think over here credit cards are typically for people who need it for (international)
business. Otherwise it's not really useful. I don't know about other
banks, but my bank doesn't offer them.
I remember when I went to America I needed to get "visa" of sorts that needed
to be paid by credit card, and it was pretty tricky finding someone who had one.

It might be because we invented the chip

I also know that we still use a lot of cheques, and that Germans like to have
big bank notes in their pockets….

Europeans are diverse

We used to have this weird system called "chipknip" - allowing you to have money
not only on your card (bank account) but also on the chip itself.. so when you
wanted to have a coffee or use a copy machine somewhere you had to find the damned
chipknip charging point and have some leftover €10 or so and forget about it..
And when the bank would issue you a new card once in a while, you'd throw
away the money with the card.. it was supposed to replace cash but it didn't
really work out
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  […]
We used to have this weird system called "chipknip" - allowing you to have money
not only on your card (bank account) but also on the chip itself.. so when you
wanted to have a coffee or use a copy machine somewhere you had to find the damned
chipknip charging point and have some leftover €10 or so and forget about it..
And when the bank would issue you a new card once in a while, you'd throw
away the money with the card.. it was supposed to replace cash but it didn't
really work out

We have had several failed “porte-monnaie électroniques” (electronic coin purses)
attempts / tests.
Now they focus on phones and contactless payment.
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In Buying, Teup writes:
  In Buying, SylvainLS writes:
  In Buying, StarBrick writes:
  
  
Couldn't believe it until I checked for myself, that's crazy I don't
know anyone with a credit card..

I do

Everyone I know has a debit/credit card (Carte Bleue / Visa, very few Master
Cards).

Almost all the French cards are both debit and credit (it’s a credit if your
account isn’t sufficiently provided; it’s a credit when the debit is delayed
to the next month).

I think over here credit cards are typically for people who need it for (international)
business. Otherwise it's not really useful. I don't know about other
banks, but my bank doesn't offer them.
I remember when I went to America I needed to get "visa" of sorts that needed
to be paid by credit card, and it was pretty tricky finding someone who had one.

This is so, excuse the pun, foreign to me. I use CCs for everything. The fraud
protection is different than a bank card, plus they earn "points" which if you
pay your balance off each month, is free money.

Most Americans however, just use them to look wealthier than they really are,
but everyone who can have one, does.
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In Buying, blasterfish writes:
  so you can only pay with credit card why not with paypal nobody in europe use
credit card also will there be taxes on it for europeans ?

I just managed it with an embossed debit card (same as the one I had to get to
activate paypal).
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  so you can only pay with credit card why not with paypal nobody in europe use
credit card also will there be taxes on it for europeans ?

Yes, there will be further taxes. You will need to pay VAT on importing it plus
whatever fee required for this fee to be collected.
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  so you can only pay with credit card why not with paypal nobody in europe use
credit card also will there be taxes on it for europeans ?

man just use debit card ... they just name it "credit" card ... well I prefer
debit card as paypal has 5% fee!!!
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  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team

Just submitted my preorders.

These are going to fund pretty quickly, I see the numbers rising with each refresh,
brilliant idea guys.
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Well Adjour...that is happening only with the big ones, they cost much more and
needs almost the same amount of $ to be founded...For example Im seeing my submission
as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.
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  For example Im seeing my submission as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.

The crowdfunding just started and has 72 days to go, so don't count yourself
out so early!

Cheers,
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In General, CorvusA writes:
  Well Adjour...that is happening only with the big ones, they cost much more and
needs almost the same amount of $ to be founded...For example Im seeing my submission
as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.

Hardly a fail!

That's such a cool set. Its only been a few hours, it'll get there!
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In General, CorvusA writes:
  Well Adjour...that is happening only with the big ones, they cost much more and
needs almost the same amount of $ to be founded...For example Im seeing my submission
as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.

Mine as well, CorvusA! I think mine needs 200 and only has 16. Mine is probably
not going to make it Hopefully yours will though!
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In General, NewEletia45 writes:
  In General, CorvusA writes:
  Well Adjour...that is happening only with the big ones, they cost much more and
needs almost the same amount of $ to be founded...For example Im seeing my submission
as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.

Mine as well, CorvusA! I think mine needs 200 and only has 16. Mine is probably
not going to make it Hopefully yours will though!

As I told CorvusA, do not underestimate your chances after just half a day of
the funding stage becoming active. There are 72 days left, and that is plenty
of time at the current rate of supporters for your set to make it. In fact, it
has 17 ordered now and only a few minutes went by since you posted!

In any case, whatever happens, you should be very proud to have had your design
chosen to be a finalist out of more than 400 submissions. That is already quite
an achievement!

Good luck!

Cheers,
Randy
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In General, NewEletia45 writes:
  In General, CorvusA writes:
  Well Adjour...that is happening only with the big ones, they cost much more and
needs almost the same amount of $ to be founded...For example Im seeing my submission
as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.

Mine as well, CorvusA! I think mine needs 200 and only has 16. Mine is probably
not going to make it Hopefully yours will though!

You guys are good. They are ALL going to make it.
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In General, CorvusA writes:
  Well Adjour...that is happening only with the big ones, they cost much more and
needs almost the same amount of $ to be founded...For example Im seeing my submission
as a total fail, and it needs 300 pre-orders.

This is a message to all of those whose designs have not yet hit the crowdfunding
target. Don't give up promoting your design! We will be promoting the ADP
program intensely for the next several months, and based on the performance of
the past week alone, all of you have the potential for successfully passing this
phase. We're really only getting started.

And in response to some of the negatively-toned remarks about why BrickLink is
conducting a program like this when the site still has problems, etc, etc. -
ADP involves three parties 1) the LEGO Group 2) the BrickLink administration
and 3) the BrickLink community, and it's fundamentally about what those three
entities are able to accomplish together.

The LEGO Group and BrickLink admin have been working together for months to conduct
this program, but at 2 critical phases we have depended 100% percent on the BrickLink
community. The first was the design intake phase, where we depended on our builders
to present some great designs. The second is this crowdfunding/sales period we
are in now, where we've effectively given the community the last word in
this conversation.

If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.

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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  
And in response to some of the negatively-toned remarks about why BrickLink is
conducting a program like this when the site still has problems, etc, etc. -
ADP involves three parties 1) the LEGO Group 2) the BrickLink administration
and 3) the BrickLink community, and it's fundamentally about what those three
entities are able to accomplish together.

I don't understand how that is an answer to that concern? Sure, yep, these
three parties are involved. We all know that. It doesn't relate in any way
to the fact that this program costs money and that the money could have been
spent on improving Bricklink. I think those of us who have these concerns (me
included) would like and answer that would demonstrate how the investment in
this program is going to benefit us. Because at first glance it would seem more
like this whole project is competing with the Bricklink platform, than boosting
sales on it.

An example of a project that would be received much better: BrickOwl made a partnership
with a tool that allows you to convert your Minecraft creations to Lego and be
able to buy them. The parts are sourced from the BrickOwl sellers. This is a
great example of adding something really cool that boosts the platform. I can't
see how the designer program boosts BL in anyway, except for boosting BL management.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  
If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.



This is a very nice post and I appreciate that you seem to care very much about
this project. I was also enthusiastic about seeing the new designs. There are
two I very much wanted to order. However, right when you all went live and asked
me to support your new project, there were issues with my store, buyers were
writing me that they couldn't pay, and BrickLink was not responding to my
communication.

You might want to consider that the way back to a working relationship between
BrickLink and the community starts with you. Don't fault people for the negative
energy here on the Forum. People like me that have issues and concerns that aren't
addressed are going to get scared and frustrated. Only you guys can fix this.

I posted a list of 5 major issues. Two have now been addressed. That is a big
step, but the job isn't finished.

Thanks,
Jen
Jen
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In General, jennnifer writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  
If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.



This is a very nice post and I appreciate that you seem to care very much about
this project. I was also enthusiastic about seeing the new designs. There are
two I very much wanted to order. However, right when you all went live and asked
me to support your new project, there were issues with my store, buyers were
writing me that they couldn't pay, and BrickLink was not responding to my
communication.

You might want to consider that the way back to a working relationship between
BrickLink and the community starts with you. Don't fault people for the negative
energy here on the Forum. People like me that have issues and concerns that aren't
addressed are going to get scared and frustrated. Only you guys can fix this.

I posted a list of 5 major issues. Two have now been addressed. That is a big
step, but the job isn't finished.

Thanks,
Jen
Jen

IMO that is spot on. Personally I fear any issues with my store that require
help desk support in any way as regularly I see in the forum problems that are
not addressed for days, frustrated members asking for help here when they get
no response whatsoever from Bricklink. We need a 24/7 help desk, this is the
biggest thing that will build trust in the site. I do however see it as a positive
that there is apparent relationship building between Bricklink and the Lego Company
and don't want my comments to be viewed as negative in any way about that.

Robert
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In General, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In General, jennnifer writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  
If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.



This is a very nice post and I appreciate that you seem to care very much about
this project. I was also enthusiastic about seeing the new designs. There are
two I very much wanted to order. However, right when you all went live and asked
me to support your new project, there were issues with my store, buyers were
writing me that they couldn't pay, and BrickLink was not responding to my
communication.

You might want to consider that the way back to a working relationship between
BrickLink and the community starts with you. Don't fault people for the negative
energy here on the Forum. People like me that have issues and concerns that aren't
addressed are going to get scared and frustrated. Only you guys can fix this.

I posted a list of 5 major issues. Two have now been addressed. That is a big
step, but the job isn't finished.

Thanks,
Jen
Jen

IMO that is spot on. Personally I fear any issues with my store that require
help desk support in any way as regularly I see in the forum problems that are
not addressed for days, frustrated members asking for help here when they get
no response whatsoever from Bricklink. We need a 24/7 help desk, this is the
biggest thing that will build trust in the site. I do however see it as a positive
that there is apparent relationship building between Bricklink and the Lego Company
and don't want my comments to be viewed as negative in any way about that.

Robert

+1 on the support side but that has been falling on deaf ears since it was first
brought up. We would just like to see a first step - a proper help desk system
in place where your support request gets a ticket so you know they have it -
that give you an incident number and somewhere where we can track it. This doesn't
have to be revolution it can be evolution.
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In General, jennnifer writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  
If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.



This is a very nice post and I appreciate that you seem to care very much about
this project. I was also enthusiastic about seeing the new designs. There are
two I very much wanted to order. However, right when you all went live and asked
me to support your new project, there were issues with my store, buyers were
writing me that they couldn't pay, and BrickLink was not responding to my
communication.

You might want to consider that the way back to a working relationship between
BrickLink and the community starts with you. Don't fault people for the negative
energy here on the Forum. People like me that have issues and concerns that aren't
addressed are going to get scared and frustrated. Only you guys can fix this.

I posted a list of 5 major issues. Two have now been addressed. That is a big
step, but the job isn't finished.

Thanks,
Jen
Jen

+ and a bit
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  If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.

Hopefully any future involvement from LEGO will be more than just selling basic
parts. Most sellers here already do that. If the relationship provided something
unique, such as parts in un-released colours, or new prints for parts or minifigures,
I can see there is something value added. But as it is now, it seems LEGO is
just a supplier of parts and normal sellers are being circumvented.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.

Hopefully any future involvement from LEGO will be more than just selling basic
parts. Most sellers here already do that. If the relationship provided something
unique, such as parts in un-released colours, or new prints for parts or minifigures,
I can see there is something value added. But as it is now, it seems LEGO is
just a supplier of parts and normal sellers are being circumvented.

There isn't one model among the 16 now being offered that could be completely
sourced from BrickLink. Multiply any lot by 2500 and you will see the available
options on BrickLink shrink up rapidly. So enough with this "circumvention of
sellers" nonsense. MOC shop tried to use regular BrickLink stores and it did
not succeed due the unavailability of parts.

Not to mention the cost. If we sourced our parts at BrickLink prices, the cost
we would pass on to the buyer would simply be prohibitive.

And the parts are not just "basic" parts. Two examples:
 
Part No: 88517c02  Name: Wheel 75mm D. x 17mm Motorcycle with Black Tire 100.6mm D. Motorcycle (88517 / 11957)
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88517c02 (Inv) Wheel 75mm D. x 17mm Motorcycle with Black Tire 100.6mm D. Motorcycle (88517 / 11957)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly
 
Part No: 34732  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 6 Wavy
* 
34732 Panel 1 x 4 x 6 Wavy
Parts: Panel
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So we are too expensive. Bricklink thinks its sellers are too expensive. And
therefore, rather than trying a little harder working with us, Bricklink decides
to compete with us and start selling on their own accord.. funded by our fees...
it makes me sad.

Well, forget about it. I'm curious to see what those seller tools are going
to look like. Would be nice to finally see some investment in BL itself.

In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.

Hopefully any future involvement from LEGO will be more than just selling basic
parts. Most sellers here already do that. If the relationship provided something
unique, such as parts in un-released colours, or new prints for parts or minifigures,
I can see there is something value added. But as it is now, it seems LEGO is
just a supplier of parts and normal sellers are being circumvented.

There isn't one model among the 16 now being offered that could be completely
sourced from BrickLink. Multiply any lot by 2500 and you will see the available
options on BrickLink shrink up rapidly. So enough with this "circumvention of
sellers" nonsense. MOC shop tried to use regular BrickLink stores and it did
not succeed due the unavailability of parts.

Not to mention the cost. If we sourced our parts at BrickLink prices, the cost
we would pass on to the buyer would simply be prohibitive.

And the parts are not just "basic" parts. Two examples:
 
Part No: 88517c02  Name: Wheel 75mm D. x 17mm Motorcycle with Black Tire 100.6mm D. Motorcycle (88517 / 11957)
* 
88517c02 (Inv) Wheel 75mm D. x 17mm Motorcycle with Black Tire 100.6mm D. Motorcycle (88517 / 11957)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly
 
Part No: 34732  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 6 Wavy
* 
34732 Panel 1 x 4 x 6 Wavy
Parts: Panel
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In General, Teup writes:
   So we are too expensive. Bricklink thinks its sellers are too expensive. And
therefore, rather than trying a little harder working with us, Bricklink decides
to compete with us and start selling on their own accord.. funded by our fees...
it makes me sad.

No, we are of the opinion that BrickLink prices are somewhat too low. Buyers
get a very, very good deal on parts here.

But BrickLink's purpose is not to supply entire production runs. BrickLink
supplies individuals with parts for single, one-of-a-kind creations. That's
not all we do, but that's the central element of our business model.

  Well, forget about it. I'm curious to see what those seller tools are going
to look like. Would be nice to finally see some investment in BL itself.

And how is that investment supposed to happen without finances? This is why ADP
is so critical. For years BrickLink has tried to develop a revenue stream capable
of funding proper maintenance and development of the site. Now we have a chance
at something that could work. IMO this is the ticket to get the rest accomplished.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  And how is that investment supposed to happen without finances? This is why ADP
is so critical. For years BrickLink has tried to develop a revenue stream capable
of funding proper maintenance and development of the site. Now we have a chance
at something that could work. IMO this is the ticket to get the rest accomplished.

I am happy that BrickLink is trying to do something to generate money to fund
development. That being said, this site is owned by a multi-BILLIONAIRE, right?
He can't toss a few million at BrickLink for proper development? It sure
seems he can toss money at developing Studio, but not the core product? Something
just does not add up.

Randy
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  And how is that investment supposed to happen without finances? This is why ADP
is so critical. For years BrickLink has tried to develop a revenue stream capable
of funding proper maintenance and development of the site. Now we have a chance
at something that could work. IMO this is the ticket to get the rest accomplished.

I am happy that BrickLink is trying to do something to generate money to fund
development. That being said, this site is owned by a multi-BILLIONAIRE, right?
He can't toss a few million at BrickLink for proper development? It sure
seems he can toss money at developing Studio, but not the core product? Something
just does not add up.

Randy

+11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

Could not have put it better myself. We understand the owner really does not
get involved in his business investments, but a strong business plan to fund
the development that is needed can and often does make a difference.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  And how is that investment supposed to happen without finances? This is why ADP
is so critical. For years BrickLink has tried to develop a revenue stream capable
of funding proper maintenance and development of the site. Now we have a chance
at something that could work. IMO this is the ticket to get the rest accomplished.

I hope that this is true. That would be great news to me because that'd mean
we're totally on the same page. If A) BL had trouble making ends meet, then
I'd have a whole lot more respect for the lack of support and development
and B) the ADP is really going to boost Bricklink, I'd have a alot more respect
for that choice as well. I don't want to complain to complain, I much rather
prefer to be making a living on a platform that I have confidence in.

The problem is just that from what we can infer from the numbers we do
have as outsiders, it all looks alot like BL could comfortably hire a team to
be on the job all day every day and address daily concerns like fix bugs, perform
updates on IC (the USPS issue for example), response to helpdesk tickets, communication
in the forum, consider suggestions, etc etc. I would love to be wrong about that
estimation, because it would make me more motivated to work around here and pay
my fees if I knew that BL really doesn't have much as opposed to knowing
the money is disappearing and there's not much to show for it. But I understand
that you're not in a position to give openness about the figures so I guess
for me and some other members this point will always be standing in the way of
really trusting in Bricklink's course.
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Yes this issue of competing with it's own sellers is stopping me from pre-ordering
the sets I like. It has this shady money grab feeling to me in addition to sets
priced around 2-3 more then they should.

Instead of competing BL could've enabled sellers by selling only box and
instructions which only them can provide. Then we could source actual parts our
own bricks and purchase missing parts on BL from other sellers.

In General, Teup writes:
   So we are too expensive. Bricklink thinks its sellers are too expensive. And
therefore, rather than trying a little harder working with us, Bricklink decides
to compete with us and start selling on their own accord.. funded by our fees...
it makes me sad.

Well, forget about it. I'm curious to see what those seller tools are going
to look like. Would be nice to finally see some investment in BL itself.

In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  If you like the idea of the LEGO Group and BrickLink working together in the
future, if you think that each one can benefit from the influence of the other,
and if you want to someday get off this old platform that goes down for 10 minutes
every night, support these projects and show the world what we can do when we
work together.

Hopefully any future involvement from LEGO will be more than just selling basic
parts. Most sellers here already do that. If the relationship provided something
unique, such as parts in un-released colours, or new prints for parts or minifigures,
I can see there is something value added. But as it is now, it seems LEGO is
just a supplier of parts and normal sellers are being circumvented.

There isn't one model among the 16 now being offered that could be completely
sourced from BrickLink. Multiply any lot by 2500 and you will see the available
options on BrickLink shrink up rapidly. So enough with this "circumvention of
sellers" nonsense. MOC shop tried to use regular BrickLink stores and it did
not succeed due the unavailability of parts.

Not to mention the cost. If we sourced our parts at BrickLink prices, the cost
we would pass on to the buyer would simply be prohibitive.

And the parts are not just "basic" parts. Two examples:
 
Part No: 88517c02  Name: Wheel 75mm D. x 17mm Motorcycle with Black Tire 100.6mm D. Motorcycle (88517 / 11957)
* 
88517c02 (Inv) Wheel 75mm D. x 17mm Motorcycle with Black Tire 100.6mm D. Motorcycle (88517 / 11957)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly
 
Part No: 34732  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 6 Wavy
* 
34732 Panel 1 x 4 x 6 Wavy
Parts: Panel
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In General, ipetrenko writes:
  Yes this issue of competing with it's own sellers is stopping me from pre-ordering
the sets I like. It has this shady money grab feeling to me in addition to sets
priced around 2-3 more then they should.

Instead of competing BL could've enabled sellers by selling only box and
instructions which only them can provide. Then we could source actual parts our
own bricks and purchase missing parts on BL from other sellers.

No, BrickLink sellers cannot supply the parts. That's been the sticking point
for years. We tried the whole "download instructions and the designer gets a
fee" thing with the MOC shop. Didn't work, not enough parts on BrickLink.

And regarding being priced about 2-3 times more than they should - apparently
many, many of your fellow BrickLinkers see enough value in these sets to crowdfund
them, and perhaps buy some of them completely out. I think you're way off
base with all of your assertions here.
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Yes downloading instructions I would not do as well but I think you had an excellent
idea this time to produce real box and instructions so set can be gifted to someone.

Bricklink is a market and if there would be demand for some parts price change
would make BL sellers to find a way to provide parts. If you can get them big
sellers here can get them too. Besides the box and instructions you provide nothing
unique here and act like a part reseller.

In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  No, BrickLink sellers cannot supply the parts. That's been the sticking point
for years. We tried the whole "download instructions and the designer gets a
fee" thing with the MOC shop. Didn't work, not enough parts on BrickLink.

And regarding being priced about 2-3 times more than they should - apparently
many, many of your fellow BrickLinkers see enough value in these sets to crowdfund
them, and perhaps buy some of them completely out. I think you're way off
base with all of your assertions here.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, ipetrenko writes:
  Yes this issue of competing with it's own sellers is stopping me from pre-ordering
the sets I like. It has this shady money grab feeling to me in addition to sets
priced around 2-3 more then they should.

Instead of competing BL could've enabled sellers by selling only box and
instructions which only them can provide. Then we could source actual parts our
own bricks and purchase missing parts on BL from other sellers.

No, BrickLink sellers cannot supply the parts. That's been the sticking point
for years. We tried the whole "download instructions and the designer gets a
fee" thing with the MOC shop. Didn't work, not enough parts on BrickLink.

And regarding being priced about 2-3 times more than they should - apparently
many, many of your fellow BrickLinkers see enough value in these sets to crowdfund
them, and perhaps buy some of them completely out. I think you're way off
base with all of your assertions here.

For what its worth, I think the model you guys have decided on is just fine despite
the vocal opinions otherwise. I know I personally am not just interested in the
set, but the custom instructions and packaging.

These are sets that can be given as gift, heck even displayed in their boxes
(I'm presuming if there is box art)

For me and I'm sure other AFOLS the packaging is important to many of us.


If investing in the site takes money, and this generates it, I can see why it
was made a priority. I'm also presuming the people working on code/ issues
are not the same people for the most part working on this project.


I do appreciate the updates
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When will their part out value be posted?

K

In NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

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  When will their part out value be posted?

We intentionally have not revealed such data or similar data, such as the weight
of each set. As was stated in the guidelines for the program, we did not wish
these sets to be purchased simply for the value of the parts.
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Hi, Form which country will they be shipped?
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In Announce, Admin_Russell writes:

  We intentionally have not revealed such data or similar data, such as the weight
of each set. As was stated in the guidelines for the program, we did not wish
these sets to be purchased simply for the value of the parts.

Ha, ha, ha, that's funny. I bet LEGO thinks the same thing about their products.
Good thing there is this website called BrickLink for people who want to use
bricks and sets any way they want.

Jen
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In Announce, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Announce, speshy writes:
  When will their part out value be posted?

We intentionally have not revealed such data or similar data, such as the weight
of each set. As was stated in the guidelines for the program, we did not wish
these sets to be purchased simply for the value of the parts.

The palette of allowable parts seems to be fairly basic and at 10c per part,
I doubt this will happen.
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In Announce, yorbrick writes:
  In Announce, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Announce, speshy writes:
  When will their part out value be posted?

We intentionally have not revealed such data or similar data, such as the weight
of each set. As was stated in the guidelines for the program, we did not wish
these sets to be purchased simply for the value of the parts.

The palette of allowable parts seems to be fairly basic and at 10c per part,
I doubt this will happen.

Because of the small amount of sets producted the cost of doing all of it is
extreme so profit must be much higher than regular lego sets that run at 1 mil
boxes minimum.

With a custom and unique box and instruction .. noone here can do it cheaper!
Imagine designing it, getting all the prints, customized box.. packing the bricks
in boxes and ordering them in the first place etc etc ... if you want to make
a copy of what we get you end up at 400 USD and the work is free jsut need a
month to spend on it .. or you ask soemone and you go with costs even higher.
I gladly pay 200 USD for a ready product ..
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Did someone else notice a weird thing too ?

Almost only sets with few colors have reached, and even goes over, their goals,
but coloured ones, with probably all or close, allowed colors (Imagine it! Build
it!, Poseidonia, Isle of Peril and Clovershire Castle) are far behind.

I'm ok with others tastes but it's surprising even the bikes! set get
funded.
And most of these sets doesn't actually worth the price of parts AFAIK, 50
$ for this one for instance is too much, they didn't have to pay a designer
for it.

At this rate, some sets will get too much bakers than expected.
Are there some pro sellers who already start gathering for more or less quick
profit after the end of crowdfunding time ?


In NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

[...]
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In Buying, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Did someone else notice a weird thing too ?

Almost only sets with few colors have reached, and even goes over, their goals,
but coloured ones, with probably all or close, allowed colors (Imagine it! Build
it!, Poseidonia, Isle of Peril and Clovershire Castle) are far behind.

Of the 5 that are now fully crowdfunded, the average number of colors is 28.
For the remaining 11, the average is 23.

  I'm ok with others tastes but it's surprising even the bikes! set get
funded.
And most of these sets doesn't actually worth the price of parts AFAIK, 50
$ for this one for instance is too much, they didn't have to pay a designer
for it.

At this rate, some sets will get too much bakers than expected.
Are there some pro sellers who already start gathering for more or less quick
profit after the end of crowdfunding time ?

I won't reveal any partout values (we have studied such things very closely),
but I will say that overall these sets offer an exceptional value.
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Do we still have the full 70 more days to make a decision for those projects
that have already reached full funding? I'm just not decided on which one(s)
I want to have, but I don't want to miss out if they are to end early.

Thanks!

  
  At this rate, some sets will get too much bakers than expected.
Are there some pro sellers who already start gathering for more or less quick
profit after the end of crowdfunding time ?

I won't reveal any partout values (we have studied such things very closely),
but I will say that overall these sets offer an exceptional value.
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  Do we still have the full 70 more days to make a decision for those projects
that have already reached full funding? I'm just not decided on which one(s)
I want to have, but I don't want to miss out if they are to end early.

Thanks!

Absolutely. You have that period of time and also a two-month sales period through
the end of June. But the free shipping offer ends April 15, and there is a 2500
QTY production limit for each set. So keep your eyes on the numbers sold. It
looks as though several of these might sell out even during crowdfunding.
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In Buying, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Did someone else notice a weird thing too ?

Almost only sets with few colors have reached, and even goes over, their goals,
but coloured ones, with probably all or close, allowed colors (Imagine it! Build
it!, Poseidonia, Isle of Peril and Clovershire Castle) are far behind.

I'm ok with others tastes but it's surprising even the bikes! set get
funded.
And most of these sets doesn't actually worth the price of parts AFAIK, 50
$ for this one for instance is too much, they didn't have to pay a designer
for it.

At this rate, some sets will get too much bakers than expected.
Are there some pro sellers who already start gathering for more or less quick
profit after the end of crowdfunding time ?


In NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

[...]

Well looks like you never really produced anything because:

Because of the small amount of sets produced the cost of doing all of it is
extreme so profit must be much higher than regular lego sets that run at 1 mil
boxes minimum.

With a custom and unique box and instruction .. noone here can do it cheaper!
Imagine designing it, getting all the prints, customized box.. packing the bricks
in boxes and ordering them in the first place etc etc ... if you want to make
a copy of what we get you end up at 400 USD and the work is free jsut need a
month to spend on it .. or you ask soemone and you go with costs even higher.
I gladly pay 200 USD for a ready product ..
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

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  From whence will the pieces come?

Straight from TLG themselves.
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  From whence will the pieces come?

Straight from TLG themselves.

They've already started arriving:
 
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  From whence will the pieces come?

Straight from TLG themselves.

They've already started arriving:

So cool. Thanks for sharing
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In General, Adjour writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  From whence will the pieces come?

Straight from TLG themselves.

They've already started arriving:

So cool. Thanks for sharing

Half of Löwenstein Castle arrived today:
 
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, Adjour writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  From whence will the pieces come?

Straight from TLG themselves.

They've already started arriving:

So cool. Thanks for sharing

Half of Löwenstein Castle arrived today:


Wow!

Hopefully one day BL will do some tours. I'd be there in a heartbeat.


I now imagine some grunt(s) has to inventory all of that. Ha!
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  Hopefully one day BL will do some tours. I'd be there in a heartbeat.


I now imagine some grunt(s) has to inventory all of that. Ha!

While you are there on a fee paying tour, maybe they could get you to put some
of the sets together, on a voluntary basis of course.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  Hopefully one day BL will do some tours. I'd be there in a heartbeat.


I now imagine some grunt(s) has to inventory all of that. Ha!

While you are there on a fee paying tour, maybe they could get you to put some
of the sets together, on a voluntary basis of course.

So much salt in this thread.


LEGO is a happy thing. I think many people have lost that magic.

Have a good day
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Could you clarify what SHIPPING COUNTRY means. Is this the country from which
it is shipped from or to?

I ask as if I try to pre-order one of the crowdfunded sets, I am presented with
this screenshot. In it, it auto fills in my country under the SHIPPING ADDRESS.
In the pledge box it tells me that the shipping country is the UK. This suggests
to me that it will be shipped from the UK. Of course, this is important
as the little link below tells me that additional duties and taxes may apply.
A buyer might well think that, in this case, it will be shipped from the UK and
that there are no taxes to be paid. After all:
1) there is a change of language from "shipping address" on the left (red ringed)
to "shipping country" on the right (blue ringed), so this appears to be a different
thing. If it isn't, why change the term used?
2) Why put the country to which it is being shipped twice? The page already says
it is going to the UK (red) so no need to repeat it (blue).

As I understand it, these are going to be assembled in the USA and send direct
to consumers from there, rather than exported to individual country hubs, then
sent from there. Is that correct?

If so, I imagine some buyers are going to be annoyed when they realise they are
getting hit with further fees when they thought that shipping country meant the
country of origin and not country of destination (which is already included elsewhere
on the page).

I suggest that this page is changed to reflect that sets are being sent from
the USA only (if this is the case), and the term "shipping country" (ringed in
blue) is changed to "destination" to be unambiguous. If this is not made clear
to buyers, I imagine some people will refuse to pay the VAT and extra fees, and
these will be returned to the sender, with refunds necessary.

At the very least, it should be made clear to buyers on this pledge page
which country the seller is located in for business purposes, just like all regular
bricklink sellers have to state their country.
 
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Maybe I missed it, but how long will these "limited edition" sets be available
after the crowdfunding period is up? And does the limit 3 per buyer apply only
during the pre-order time, or is it limited for as long as the set is offered
for sale?


In NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
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  Maybe I missed it, but how long will these "limited edition" sets be available
after the crowdfunding period is up? And does the limit 3 per buyer apply only
during the pre-order time, or is it limited for as long as the set is offered
for sale?

We're looking realistically at a sales period from mid April to the end of
June, if we have anything left by then. We have a production limit of 2500 per
set and it's possible that some of them may actually sell out during the
crowdfunding period, meaning they wouldn't be available at all afterward.

The limit of 3 is for the crowdfunding period and the sales period combined.
For example, if you buy 2 of Steampunk Mini Chess during crowdfunding, you may
only buy 1 more of that set during the sales period.

However, you may purchase/crowdfund 3 of *each* set, for a total of 48 sets.
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Hi admin, i am still having difficulty to pre order my sets, with error message
stating ec invalid address. i hv updated my address on my profile already and
it still doesnt work. please advise. thanks
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found it accidently today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGEYuqyVWIo
Behind the Scenes! BrickLink AFOL Designer Program by Beyond the Brick
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Behind the Scenes! BrickLink AFOL Designer Program by Beyond the Brick

I saw this the other day too! I was shocked how big the fire engine is, even
though I knew the dimensions.


Good watch for anyone who preordered.
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These are very good!

The sets all seem priced at what “official” LEGO sets would cost at retail.

I am curious as to what percentage of profits goes to the creators?

Before committing to purchase, I would like to see an idea of what the packaging
will look like.
Also the inventories listed to see what you actually get for the money.

Thanks
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  These are very good!

Thank you! We think so, and apparently so do a lot of others.

  The sets all seem priced at what “official” LEGO sets would cost at retail.

We worked rather hard on pricing, and we used a variety of factors including
weight, part count, subject, and public opinion to settle on the final figures.

  I am curious as to what percentage of profits goes to the creators?

10% of the sale price. So if a set is priced at $200, the designer gets $20 each
time a set is sold. It's a very attractive deal and one that we tried to
emphasize during the intake phase.

  Before committing to purchase, I would like to see an idea of what the packaging
will look like.

Some of the models may actually sell out before we receive the final box product
from the factory. The schedule is really that tight. We can't even give you
an idea at the moment, though, because the packaging is still being designed.

  Also the inventories listed to see what you actually get for the money.

Sorry, these sets will not be added to the BrickLink catalog and the inventory
information will not be divulged to the public, at least not until the sales
period is over. We will have a bill of materials listed in the back of the instructions
manual, but you'll have to buy the set to get the instruction manual.
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Thanks for all the answers, appreciated.
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  Sorry, these sets will not be added to the BrickLink catalog and the inventory
information will not be divulged to the public, at least not until the sales
period is over. We will have a bill of materials listed in the back of the instructions
manual, but you'll have to buy the set to get the instruction manual.

Even LEGO lets you see the contents of a set before you purchase it.
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In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
  
  Sorry, these sets will not be added to the BrickLink catalog and the inventory
information will not be divulged to the public, at least not until the sales
period is over. We will have a bill of materials listed in the back of the instructions
manual, but you'll have to buy the set to get the instruction manual.

Even LEGO lets you see the contents of a set before you purchase it.

Not always:
 
Set No: Shimao  Name: Shimao BrickHeadz
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Sets: LEGO Brand: LEGO Inside Tour
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In New Sets, Admin_Russell writes:
  In New Sets, Thunor writes:

  
  Also the inventories listed to see what you actually get for the money.

Sorry, these sets will not be added to the BrickLink catalog and the inventory
information will not be divulged to the public, at least not until the sales
period is over. We will have a bill of materials listed in the back of the instructions
manual, but you'll have to buy the set to get the instruction manual.


I missed this @Admin_Russell

Why on earth would you NOT add these sets to the catalogue? (Your sets to your
catalogue)
The project is with TLG’s blessing, there’s no copyright issue.
I would understand if it is pending release, but after they are sold doesn’t
make any sense, at least to me.

From your reply what I read was that they would be AFTER the sales period was
over.
You can pretty much guarantee that the instructions will be on the internet after
release, also, TLG make instructions available for download, even for promotional
sets!

Please clarify, Thanks Graham
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 Posted: Feb 11, 2019 10:02
 Subject: Re: Crowdfunding is officially open!
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  In case you missed it, BrickLink and the LEGO Group are celebrating 60 years of the LEGO brick with the AFOL community by realizing unique designs with truly original themes. We received over 400 submissions, and 16 finalists were chosen from 9 different countries. Starting today, you can pre-order designs from the AFOL Designer Program to help bring some incredibly creative designs to the market in a way never before possible.

 

How does crowdfunding work?

During this phase, you can pre-order your favorite designs to help them reach 100% funding. Once successfully funded, the design is packaged with instructions to become a limited edition 60 Years Anniversary set exclusively available on BrickLink. You may pre-order a maximum of 3 per design, and you also receive FREE SHIPPING. Free shipping applies to both domestic and international buyers and is available for pre-orders only.

 

Not sure or not ready to pre-order? Simply click on the bookmark icon ( ) and we’ll send you a reminder before pre-orders close.

 

What’s next?

If the design you backed is successfully funded, your payment method will be charged the full amount after April 15, 2019. If the design is not successfully funded, you will not be charged. We will begin shipping orders in May 2019.

 

To see all the finalists, visit the Crowd Project page.

 

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team

I have a question: I would like to use my company information and VAT code so
can I change my billing information before payment? Also the sum is quite high
and my company bank debit card has some limits for such online payments can I
split the payment it 2 days lets say 50/50 ?