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 Author: Classicsmiley View Messages Posted By Classicsmiley
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 Subject: Please change "Coral" to "Vibrant Coral"
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I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

Thanks!
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

I would be the one to address because I named the color. For many color names
on BrickLink we do not use the official LEGO color name. We use a simple description
of the color such as red, blue, green, gold, pink, purple, etc.

In this case coral is a color. Therefore, I used that color's name to describe
the color. The only point in adding the word vibrant to the color name would
be so that it matches the LEGO Group's term for the name.

As mentioned above, we don't make any special effort to do that. We would,
however, like to have an onsite comparison chart of our names vs. official LEGO
color name in the future.
 Author: Classicsmiley View Messages Posted By Classicsmiley
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In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

I would be the one to address because I named the color. For many color names
on BrickLink we do not use the official LEGO color name. We use a simple description
of the color such as red, blue, green, gold, pink, purple, etc.

In this case coral is a color. Therefore, I used that color's name to describe
the color. The only point in adding the word vibrant to the color name would
be so that it matches the LEGO Group's term for the name.

As mentioned above, we don't make any special effort to do that. We would,
however, like to have an onsite comparison chart of our names vs. official LEGO
color name in the future.

I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.

The community has soundly rejected this approach, as evidenced in a forum discussion
not too long ago. You want it, most don't.
 Author: BrickCompulsion View Messages Posted By BrickCompulsion
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In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.

The community has soundly rejected this approach, as evidenced in a forum discussion
not too long ago. You want it, most don't.

I have to say I’m not bothered to see the name change here on bl- sorry
I don’t think I could name many of the Lego names for colours as I just don’t
need to.
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Jan 9, 2019 11:39
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In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.

The community has soundly rejected this approach, as evidenced in a forum discussion
not too long ago. You want it, most don't.

AGREE! Especially on an upload. I have all the colors linked to the codes so
I can type the color names and the code auto populates.

I'd much rather type 'coral' into a cell instead of 'vibrant
coral'.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.

The community has soundly rejected this approach, as evidenced in a forum discussion
not too long ago. You want it, most don't.

I think the community rejected renaming colors (that were named before the official
color names were known). I do not think the community rejected following LEGO
on new (known) color names.

I do not object to using a shortened version on BrickLink (Coral instead of Vibrant
Coral), but we should not use something completely different.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.

When the color starts showing up in prints, we have to use an extra 8 spaces
in limited room to say "vibrant ". I do NOT want to describe a complicated sci-fi
torso that has "vibrant coral arms / vibrant coral hands"
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I know the official names are pretty weird sometimes, but I do think it helps
to have the same names whenever possible.

When the color starts showing up in prints, we have to use an extra 8 spaces
in limited room to say "vibrant ". I do NOT want to describe a complicated sci-fi
torso that has "vibrant coral arms / vibrant coral hands"

This. Keep colour names as simple (and short) as possible, while still meaningful.
If need be, this colour doesn't even need to have the word coral in it.
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
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In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

Thanks!

I'm not in favour of this. I don't know how the word "vibrant" modifies
"coral" in any meaningful way, (not like, "dark" or "Medium")
if there are not multiple shares of coral, (which I am pretty sure is a shade
of pink or red) then there is no value in adding a modifier just to be consistent
with Lego's conventions.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Colors, calebfishn writes:
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I don't know how the word "vibrant" modifies
"coral" in any meaningful way, (not like, "dark" or "Medium")
if there are not multiple shares of coral, (which I am pretty sure is a shade
of pink or red) then there is no value in adding a modifier just to be consistent
with Lego's conventions.

Coral is orange, not pink or red.

And “vibrant” means “flashy” as in “Wow, these 1980’s skiing outfits are really
‘vibrant’!”
 Author: Classicsmiley View Messages Posted By Classicsmiley
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, calebfishn writes:
  […]
I don't know how the word "vibrant" modifies
"coral" in any meaningful way, (not like, "dark" or "Medium")
if there are not multiple shares of coral, (which I am pretty sure is a shade
of pink or red) then there is no value in adding a modifier just to be consistent
with Lego's conventions.

Coral is orange, not pink or red.

And “vibrant” means “flashy” as in “Wow, these 1980’s skiing outfits are really
‘vibrant’!”

Which seems accurate, given Ryan's notes:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/45707004445/
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In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

If anyone knows the hex which properly matches this color, then I could use that
information. The official coral hex doesn't appear to match LEGO renders.
Also, where would you put it on the color guide? Down with the pinks has been
suggested.
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In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

If anyone knows the hex which properly matches this color, then I could use that
information. The official coral hex doesn't appear to match LEGO renders.
Also, where would you put it on the color guide? Down with the pinks has been
suggested.

They probably use different values for different applications (renders, printed
media etc.)
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In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

If anyone knows the hex which properly matches this color, then I could use that
information. The official coral hex doesn't appear to match LEGO renders.
Also, where would you put it on the color guide? Down with the pinks has been
suggested.

I'm in no condition to add meaningful content to this thread, but "Down with
the pinks" sounds like some sort of all-girl heavy metal band.

David
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In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

If anyone knows the hex which properly matches this color, then I could use that
information. The official coral hex doesn't appear to match LEGO renders.
Also, where would you put it on the color guide? Down with the pinks has been
suggested.

I'm in no condition to add meaningful content to this thread, but "Down with
the pinks" sounds like some sort of all-girl heavy metal band.

David

Would they open for Babymetal?
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In Off Topic, randyf writes:
  In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

If anyone knows the hex which properly matches this color, then I could use that
information. The official coral hex doesn't appear to match LEGO renders.
Also, where would you put it on the color guide? Down with the pinks has been
suggested.

I'm in no condition to add meaningful content to this thread, but "Down with
the pinks" sounds like some sort of all-girl heavy metal band.

David

Would they open for Babymetal?

Probably!
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In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

Thanks!

Sorry to resurrect this dead thread, but as a buyer I find this to be more than
an annoyance. For instance I am in the middle of buying many different color
tiles for a large mosaic. If I am purchasing some from pick-a-brick (thank you
VIP points) and some via rebrickable, it gets very complicated to track and account
for the different color names, almost impossible for some colors. There isn't
currently a good list that cross references the different names and color id
numbers (not one that is kept up to date at least).
Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.
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In Colors, THEMIDDLEBRICK writes:
  In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
  I'm not sure who to address this to, but could the color "Coral" please be
renamed to the official "Vibrant Coral"?

Thanks!

Sorry to resurrect this dead thread, but as a buyer I find this to be more than
an annoyance. For instance I am in the middle of buying many different color
tiles for a large mosaic. If I am purchasing some from pick-a-brick (thank you
VIP points) and some via rebrickable, it gets very complicated to track and account
for the different color names, almost impossible for some colors. There isn't
currently a good list that cross references the different names and color id
numbers (not one that is kept up to date at least).
Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

If you submitted one they might consider using it. But I think they have enough
going on to not add it to thir list right now.
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In Colors, THEMIDDLEBRICK writes:
  […]
There isn't
currently a good list that cross references the different names and color id
numbers (not one that is kept up to date at least). […]

http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, THEMIDDLEBRICK writes:
  […]
There isn't
currently a good list that cross references the different names and color id
numbers (not one that is kept up to date at least). […]

http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php

Thanks for sharing this!
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In Colors, THEMIDDLEBRICK writes:

  Sorry to resurrect this dead thread, but as a buyer I find this to be more than
an annoyance. For instance I am in the middle of buying many different color
tiles for a large mosaic. If I am purchasing some from pick-a-brick (thank you
VIP points) and some via rebrickable, it gets very complicated to track and account
for the different color names, almost impossible for some colors. There isn't
currently a good list that cross references the different names and color id
numbers (not one that is kept up to date at least).
Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

I could'nt agree with you more!

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1245263
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  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.
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In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  
  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.

It does'nt stop bricklink from correcting all those colours that can be corrected
which is the vast majority! Why for instance is Brick Yellow not even mentioned
anywhere alongside all those parts that are Tan? Brick Yellow is an official
description and so its imperative that those official descriptions are highlighted
and searchable within the BL catalog, surely?
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In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  
  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.

It does'nt stop bricklink from correcting all those colours that can be corrected
which is the vast majority! Why for instance is Brick Yellow not even mentioned
anywhere alongside all those parts that are Tan? Brick Yellow is an official
description and so its imperative that those official descriptions are highlighted
and searchable within the BL catalog, surely?

Where else in the world is there a Brick Yellow color? It is Tan. TLG should
have called it Tan, but for whatever reason called it Brick Yellow. That doesn't
change the fact that to most people looking for it will call it Tan.
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In Colors, Tracyd writes:
  In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  
  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.

It does'nt stop bricklink from correcting all those colours that can be corrected
which is the vast majority! Why for instance is Brick Yellow not even mentioned
anywhere alongside all those parts that are Tan? Brick Yellow is an official
description and so its imperative that those official descriptions are highlighted
and searchable within the BL catalog, surely?

Where else in the world is there a Brick Yellow color? It is Tan. TLG should
have called it Tan, but for whatever reason called it Brick Yellow. That doesn't
change the fact that to most people looking for it will call it Tan.

But thats not the argument because Whether we like it or not the correct official
colour is whatever The Lego Group called that colour! You seem very sure that
its 'Tan' however others might suggest its beige or cream but in the
end it does'nt really matter what does matter is that the all important colour
reference from the Lego site is directly transferable to Bricklink even if that
means both colours are displayed alongside those relevant parts but not just
for Brick Yellow but Earth Blue, Dark Stone Grey and every other official colour
reference
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In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  
  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.

It does'nt stop bricklink from correcting all those colours that can be corrected
which is the vast majority! Why for instance is Brick Yellow not even mentioned
anywhere alongside all those parts that are Tan? Brick Yellow is an official
description and so its imperative that those official descriptions are highlighted
and searchable within the BL catalog, surely?

Beware with “official description.”

Do you also want “Pavilion” to be added to
 
Part No: 30613  Name: Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented
* 
30613 Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented
Parts: Arch
because “Pavilion 6X3X5” is TLG’s name for the part?
It’d make sense.

Then what about “Animal Ass. For No.14” and “Animal Ass. For No.14 No.2” to
 
Part No: 11435pb01  Name: Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Tail Feathers Pattern
* 
11435pb01 Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Tail Feathers Pattern
Parts: Animal, Body Part, Decorated
 
Part No: 11435pb02  Name: Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Head and Tail Feathers Pattern
* 
11435pb02 Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Head and Tail Feathers Pattern
Parts: Animal, Body Part, Decorated
They are official names, surely they should be searchable?

“Animal No.8 Body” is also so explicit, I’ll let you find what it is….

Nah, my favorites are “Mini Wig, No.153”, “Mini Figure Wig No. 93” (note the
consistency), and all the dozens of them.

And I didn’t even cite mispelled names or Danish names.  “Figur Hjelm No 2” what’s
that?  Actually not a helmet.


TLG’s names (parts or colours) are so awful, it’s been said even TLG don’t use
them: they use the numbers.


That being said, colour names could be in the colour guide: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=635575
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  
  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.

It does'nt stop bricklink from correcting all those colours that can be corrected
which is the vast majority! Why for instance is Brick Yellow not even mentioned
anywhere alongside all those parts that are Tan? Brick Yellow is an official
description and so its imperative that those official descriptions are highlighted
and searchable within the BL catalog, surely?

Beware with “official description.”

Do you also want “Pavilion” to be added to
 
Part No: 30613  Name: Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented
* 
30613 Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented
Parts: Arch
because “Pavilion 6X3X5” is TLG’s name for the part?
It’d make sense.

Then what about “Animal Ass. For No.14” and “Animal Ass. For No.14 No.2” to
 
Part No: 11435pb01  Name: Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Tail Feathers Pattern
* 
11435pb01 Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Tail Feathers Pattern
Parts: Animal, Body Part, Decorated
 
Part No: 11435pb02  Name: Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Head and Tail Feathers Pattern
* 
11435pb02 Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Head and Tail Feathers Pattern
Parts: Animal, Body Part, Decorated
They are official names, surely they should be searchable?

“Animal No.8 Body” is also so explicit, I’ll let you find what it is….

Nah, my favorites are “Mini Wig, No.153”, “Mini Figure Wig No. 93” (note the
consistency), and all the dozens of them.

And I didn’t even cite mispelled names or Danish names.  “Figur Hjelm No 2” what’s
that?  Actually not a helmet.


TLG’s names (parts or colours) are so awful, it’s been said even TLG don’t use
them: they use the numbers.


That being said, colour names could be in the colour guide: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=635575

I think the catalog administrators of websites like BrickLink and Rebrickable
are doing a great job of creating consistent names for parts and colors, so thanks
for this.

Also, they keep colors consistent in time as well, you just have to see some
of the Amazon reviews on the "Green" baseplate to see how badly needed this is.

BrickLink's Color Guide (https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) is
a bit simple. Rebrickable's aims to be more complete, but is also a bit more
difficult to navigate.
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  
  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.

It does'nt stop bricklink from correcting all those colours that can be corrected
which is the vast majority! Why for instance is Brick Yellow not even mentioned
anywhere alongside all those parts that are Tan? Brick Yellow is an official
description and so its imperative that those official descriptions are highlighted
and searchable within the BL catalog, surely?

Beware with “official description.”

Do you also want “Pavilion” to be added to
 
Part No: 30613  Name: Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented
* 
30613 Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented
Parts: Arch
because “Pavilion 6X3X5” is TLG’s name for the part?
It’d make sense.

Then what about “Animal Ass. For No.14” and “Animal Ass. For No.14 No.2” to
 
Part No: 11435pb01  Name: Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Tail Feathers Pattern
* 
11435pb01 Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Tail Feathers Pattern
Parts: Animal, Body Part, Decorated
 
Part No: 11435pb02  Name: Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Head and Tail Feathers Pattern
* 
11435pb02 Eagle Body with Beak, Eyes and Dark Brown Head and Tail Feathers Pattern
Parts: Animal, Body Part, Decorated
They are official names, surely they should be searchable?

“Animal No.8 Body” is also so explicit, I’ll let you find what it is….

Nah, my favorites are “Mini Wig, No.153”, “Mini Figure Wig No. 93” (note the
consistency), and all the dozens of them.

And I didn’t even cite mispelled names or Danish names.  “Figur Hjelm No 2” what’s
that?  Actually not a helmet.


TLG’s names (parts or colours) are so awful, it’s been said even TLG don’t use
them: they use the numbers.


That being said, colour names could be in the colour guide: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=635575

Unless Lego colour refernces are clearly visible when searching for parts a colour
reference guide alone is not enough. The site needs to be clear and translateable
to all users NEW and old alike not just translatebale for all those old timers
to this site who have it all memorized!

Also its clear I'm refering to Official Colour descriptions I've never
suggested implementing all those Mini wig No.... descriptions and what not, besides
we have Lego Design I.D's and Element I.D's which again is something
else that should also be visible alongside the parts
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In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  […]
  Beware with “official description.”
[…]
  TLG’s names (parts or colours) are so awful, it’s been said even TLG don’t use
them: they use the numbers.


That being said, colour names could be in the colour guide: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=635575

Unless Lego colour refernces are clearly visible when searching for parts a colour
reference guide alone is not enough. The site needs to be clear and translateable
to all users NEW and old alike not just translatebale for all those old timers
to this site who have it all memorized!

Also its clear I'm refering to Official Colour descriptions I've never
suggested implementing all those Mini wig No.... descriptions and what not,

And it’s clear I’m saying “official colour description” is not far from “official
part description” so why stop at the colours?  Part names are as visible as the
colours on S@H or Brickset.


   besides
we have Lego Design I.D's and Element I.D's which again is something
else that should also be visible alongside the parts

First, Design IDs are visible, and searchable if they are not used as the primary
BL ID.  Element IDs are searcheable.
Then, “colours, Design IDs, Element IDs, but not part names,” why?
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  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:

And it’s clear I’m saying “official colour description” is not far from “official
part description” so why stop at the colours?  Part names are as visible as the
colours on S@H or Brickset.

First, Design IDs are visible, and searchable if they are not used as the primary
BL ID.  Element IDs are searcheable.
Then, “colours, Design IDs, Element IDs, but not part names,” why?

SylvainLS you may be very knowledgeable on the subject of Lego and you may be
a forum moderator because of that good knowledge (among other things) but you
don’t sell Lego, you don’t have to sort, organise and inventory that Lego for
selling purposes, you don’t have to locate parts and pick orders, you don’t have
to use Bricklink as a reference source to buy parts for stock, You don’t have
to worry about customers being able to correctly identify and locate what your
trying to sell in your store, you don’t have to accommodate returns or refunds
when a customer expects one thing but receives something else and you don’t have
to worry about receiving negative feedback because of these kinds of misunderstandings
and catalog mis-matches?

Therefore as a seller that does have to worry about these things I can just tell
you that whilst the official Part descriptions you mention are not necessary
on Bricklink a clear understanding between a newbie customer and a seller about
the exact colour they think they’re ordering is in my opinion essential likewise
clearly displayed element I.D’s and Design I.D’s I think are also essential and
yes fortunately it seems that much of the good work on this front is already
being added by the catmins for which I am grateful however it would be helpful
if all these references were displayed in the primary spot for instance in this
minifig part breakdown:-

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0246

The Black Epaulette looks good with Design I.D 2526 clearly displayed but the
Bandana and Legs should also be displayed with the correct Design I.D and yes
you can click into each of the parts to find these other references but additional
clicks are not ideal for buyers and sellers who I expect more commonly use Lego
I.D’s
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In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:

And it’s clear I’m saying “official colour description” is not far from “official
part description” so why stop at the colours?  Part names are as visible as the
colours on S@H or Brickset.

First, Design IDs are visible, and searchable if they are not used as the primary
BL ID.  Element IDs are searcheable.
Then, “colours, Design IDs, Element IDs, but not part names,” why?

SylvainLS you may be very knowledgeable on the subject of Lego and you may be
a forum moderator because of that good knowledge (among other things) but you
don’t sell Lego, you don’t have to sort, organise and inventory that Lego for
selling purposes, you don’t have to locate parts and pick orders, you don’t have
to use Bricklink as a reference source to buy parts for stock, You don’t have
to worry about customers being able to correctly identify and locate what your
trying to sell in your store, you don’t have to accommodate returns or refunds
when a customer expects one thing but receives something else and you don’t have
to worry about receiving negative feedback because of these kinds of misunderstandings
and catalog mis-matches?

Therefore as a seller that does have to worry about these things I can just tell
you that whilst the official Part descriptions you mention are not necessary
on Bricklink a clear understanding between a newbie customer and a seller about
the exact colour they think they’re ordering is in my opinion essential likewise
clearly displayed element I.D’s and Design I.D’s I think are also essential and
yes fortunately it seems that much of the good work on this front is already
being added by the catmins for which I am grateful however it would be helpful
if all these references were displayed in the primary spot for instance in this
minifig part breakdown:-

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0246

The Black Epaulette looks good with Design I.D 2526 clearly displayed but the
Bandana and Legs should also be displayed with the correct Design I.D and yes
you can click into each of the parts to find these other references but additional
clicks are not ideal for buyers and sellers who I expect more commonly use Lego
I.D’s

Most buyers now have 0 clue as to the LEGO ID or official color names. If you
took a poll on LEGO brick colors from non LEGO fans they would identify most
bricks by Bricklink colors rather than official LEGO colors. This site was setup
originally by a fan before official LEGO colors were known, changing that now
would be a major hassle, you have seen all the attempts to change things that
cause something unrelated to become "broken" and require long time and labor
intensive fixes with people yelling and screaming about it, demanding things
be fixed right now. It's better to not change anything that's not broken.
It would be nice to be able to add more information, but this program was set
up with restraints from 20 years ago and again change is not always easy or popular.
People will always want better(in their mind) descriptions, but there is a limit
to what can be put there. Again what we have works for the majority most of the
time.
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In Colors, infinibrix writes:
  
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:

And it’s clear I’m saying “official colour description” is not far from “official
part description” so why stop at the colours?  Part names are as visible as the
colours on S@H or Brickset.

First, Design IDs are visible, and searchable if they are not used as the primary
BL ID.  Element IDs are searcheable.
Then, “colours, Design IDs, Element IDs, but not part names,” why?

SylvainLS you may be very knowledgeable on the subject of Lego and you may be
a forum moderator because of that good knowledge (among other things) but you
don’t sell Lego, you don’t have to sort, organise and inventory that Lego for
selling purposes, you don’t have to locate parts and pick orders, you don’t have
to use Bricklink as a reference source to buy parts for stock, You don’t have
to worry about customers being able to correctly identify and locate what your
trying to sell in your store, you don’t have to accommodate returns or refunds
when a customer expects one thing but receives something else and you don’t have
to worry about receiving negative feedback because of these kinds of misunderstandings
and catalog mis-matches?

Our catalog admins are concerned about all of those things, and this is the reason
we have developed a system that can account for every part and color the LEGO
Group has produced, not just the most recent ones. We may eventually try to harmonize
LEGO colors and BrickLink colors, but it would entail a lot of moving on both
sides.

  Therefore as a seller that does have to worry about these things I can just tell
you that whilst the official Part descriptions you mention are not necessary
on Bricklink a clear understanding between a newbie customer and a seller about
the exact colour they think they’re ordering is in my opinion essential likewise
clearly displayed element I.D’s and Design I.D’s I think are also essential and
yes fortunately it seems that much of the good work on this front is already
being added by the catmins for which I am grateful however it would be helpful
if all these references were displayed in the primary spot for instance in this
minifig part breakdown:-

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0246

The Black Epaulette looks good with Design I.D 2526 clearly displayed but the
Bandana and Legs should also be displayed with the correct Design I.D and yes
you can click into each of the parts to find these other references but additional
clicks are not ideal for buyers and sellers who I expect more commonly use Lego
I.D’s

On BrickLink, we use the BrickLink Item Number, not numbers used on other sites.
We follow actual LEGO numbers as much as we can, but it's not as simple as
you think.

To get PCC's (Element IDs) to show on an inventory page, change your catalog
settings. BrickLink can display / store up to 10 PCCs per line.
 


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In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
  Our catalog admins are concerned about all of those things, and this is the reason
we have developed a system that can account for every part and color the LEGO
Group has produced, not just the most recent ones. We may eventually try to harmonize
LEGO colors and BrickLink colors, but it would entail a lot of moving on both
sides.

My take away, going back to the very late 1990s, is that TLG has primarily used
numbers to identify the colors, and to avoid the language translation confusion.
A few old images are floating around the web, that showed 2x2 tile "color palettes"
used by the model shops. On each tile was a handwritten color number.

A wish-list item would be for TLG to issue a Complete Colors Palette (set), with
one tile molded in each color, and the number printed on it. I've a hunch
it would be a big seller.

Nita Rae
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  In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
To get PCC's (Element IDs) to show on an inventory page, change your catalog
settings. BrickLink can display / store up to 10 PCCs per line.

Thank you for the response but I already have that option ticked and I already
see those element I.D's you've circled which I use and reference for
the unique parts but for non printed parts that come in a variation of colours
I inventory and store those parts by design I.D. however on that same minifig
breakdown page for the Epaulette you have design I.D 2526 visible but not for
the Bandana which still has x70 instead of Design I.D 2543 which I would have
thought would be more useful displayed in the prominent spot here and within
the order picking page?