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 Author: Admin_Cheyne View Messages Posted By Admin_Cheyne
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 11:07
 Subject: German Seller Compliance
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Admin_Cheyne (0)

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Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 12:01
 Subject: Re: German Seller Compliance
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Teup (4500)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Thank you for this action and statement Cheyne. I agree it's late, that's
unfortunate, but it's really encouraging to see this is being handled and
also being communicated on. I am not a German seller but I think I speak for
many international sellers if I say seeing such actions makes us feel more confident
and secure about dealing on Bricklink. Being self-employed is tricky and unsure
business, it's good to see platforms looking after their sellers.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 12:09
 Subject: Re: German Seller Compliance
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Thank you for this action and statement Cheyne. I agree it's late, that's
unfortunate, but it's really encouraging to see this is being handled and
also being communicated on. I am not a German seller but I think I speak for
many international sellers if I say seeing such actions makes us feel more confident
and secure about dealing on Bricklink. Being self-employed is tricky and unsure
business, it's good to see platforms looking after their sellers.

+1

Also, in a “you give them this, and they take it!” spirit, now the check-out
button is localized, couldn’t the whole site be?
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Dec 21, 2018 04:34
 Subject: Re: German Seller Compliance
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Teup (4500)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Thank you for this action and statement Cheyne. I agree it's late, that's
unfortunate, but it's really encouraging to see this is being handled and
also being communicated on. I am not a German seller but I think I speak for
many international sellers if I say seeing such actions makes us feel more confident
and secure about dealing on Bricklink. Being self-employed is tricky and unsure
business, it's good to see platforms looking after their sellers.

+1

Also, in a “you give them this, and they take it!” spirit, now the check-out
button is localized, couldn’t the whole site be?

When talking about localization, the forbidden word t*mezones is awfully near
Maybe one day(+1:00 GMT)..
 Author: sarbaek View Messages Posted By sarbaek
 Posted: Dec 21, 2018 04:43
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Thank you for this action and statement Cheyne. I agree it's late, that's
unfortunate, but it's really encouraging to see this is being handled and
also being communicated on. I am not a German seller but I think I speak for
many international sellers if I say seeing such actions makes us feel more confident
and secure about dealing on Bricklink. Being self-employed is tricky and unsure
business, it's good to see platforms looking after their sellers.

+1

Also, in a “you give them this, and they take it!” spirit, now the check-out
button is localized, couldn’t the whole site be?

When talking about localization, the forbidden word t*mezones is awfully near
Maybe one day(+1:00 GMT)..

I wish I could like comments such as this on the forum
 Author: legocolonia View Messages Posted By legocolonia
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 12:06
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Sorry, that's not entirely correct.
It is not a special German law, but it is EU law!
In Germany, these things are currently being monitored more strictly.

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  (Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)
 Author: legocolonia View Messages Posted By legocolonia
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 12:07
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Thank you for taking care of that!

In Administrative, legocolonia writes:
  Sorry, that's not entirely correct.
It is not a special German law, but it is EU law!
In Germany, these things are currently being monitored more strictly.

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  (Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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Teup (4500)

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In Administrative, legocolonia writes:
  Sorry, that's not entirely correct.
It is not a special German law, but it is EU law!
In Germany, these things are currently being monitored more strictly.

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  (Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Is it really? I don't really think so. I've never seen things such as
these warnings and these prescriptions for the interface in any of even the major
national webshops here.
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 Author: jethroo View Messages Posted By jethroo
 Posted: Dec 21, 2018 01:38
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, legocolonia writes:
  Sorry, that's not entirely correct.
It is not a special German law, but it is EU law!
In Germany, these things are currently being monitored more strictly.

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  (Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Is it really? I don't really think so. I've never seen things such as
these warnings and these prescriptions for the interface in any of even the major
national webshops here.

The official Lego website adds the warning confirming to EU laws to each effected
item in the shopping cart, see attached screenshot.

So the changes are an improvement but still not hitting the requirements: has
to be shown on each effected item before putting it into the cart / as well as
on the summary of the cart.

Regarding the shopping button, see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button-L%C3%B6sung:

Valid:

Kostenpflichtig bestellen
Zahlungspflichtig bestellen
Zahlungspflichtigen Vertrag schließen
Jetzt kaufen

Invalid:

Anmeldung
Bestellen
Weiter
Bestellung abgeben
Bestellen und Kaufen
Kaufen

I unfortunately doubt that "Mit Paypal kaufen" is a valid text on that button.

(I am NOT a lawyer so my infos might be wrong / should not be seen as legal advice)

Best

Carsten
 
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Administrative, jethroo writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, legocolonia writes:
  Sorry, that's not entirely correct.
It is not a special German law, but it is EU law!
In Germany, these things are currently being monitored more strictly.

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  (Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Is it really? I don't really think so. I've never seen things such as
these warnings and these prescriptions for the interface in any of even the major
national webshops here.

The official Lego website adds the warning confirming to EU laws to each effected
item in the shopping cart, see attached screenshot.

Hmm well, I don't consider the Lego site a Dutch shop. Their store is strange,
for example with payment instructions being sent by e-mail, which I haven't
seen anywhere else besides Bricklink.

I've just looked at 10 major Dutch stores, mostly national high profile franchises,
as well as some webshops, and I could not find such warnings in a single one
of them. That to me strongly suggests it is not Dutch law, otherwise you'd
see it at the very least in the stores from large companies that are in touch
with the government.
 Author: Ddriver View Messages Posted By Ddriver
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In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

THX , but in Austria and Switzerland is the lang also in german and also there
exist seller. 👍😇😉
Best regards Daniel.
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In Administrative, Ddriver66 writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

THX , but in Austria and Switzerland is the lang also in german and also there
exist seller. 👍😇😉
Best regards Daniel.

+1

We don't have the problem with "Abmahnungen" in Austria, but you might wanna
think about extending the changes to Austria and Switzerland.
As far as i can see the "Choking Hazard" is an EU guideline (which may have been
implemented more or less strict by the member countries).

Werner
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In Administrative, welo999 writes:
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As far as i can see the "Choking Hazard" is an EU guideline (which may have been
implemented more or less strict by the member countries).

Yes.
All German sellers always have had that long regulatory text in German in their
ToS.
Other EU sellers don’t even have minimum mandatory info like their status (private
vs. business and legal form if business), their address, a phone number….
Not even talking about missing info about shipping, warranty, applicable laws….
And even less talking about illegal or abusive clauses
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, welo999 writes:
  […]
As far as i can see the "Choking Hazard" is an EU guideline (which may have been
implemented more or less strict by the member countries).

Yes.
All German sellers always have had that long regulatory text in German in their
ToS.
Other EU sellers don’t even have minimum mandatory info like their status (private
vs. business and legal form if business), their address, a phone number….
Not even talking about missing info about shipping, warranty, applicable laws….
And even less talking about illegal or abusive clauses

Illegal clauses are not allowed by law? Wow, that's gonna seriously impact
the classic Bricklink experience

From how I understand it over here consumers are encouraged to look up a store
in the chamber of commerce register and check quality control websites. Then
you have some external info, as a malicious shop is kind of by definition going
to put up info that you can't trust The downside of that though is that
when someone hears I have alot of Lego and they Google my name they immediately
get my full address
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  […]
Illegal clauses are not allowed by law? Wow, that's gonna seriously impact
the classic Bricklink experience

From how I understand it over here consumers are encouraged to look up a store
in the chamber of commerce register and check quality control websites. Then
you have some external info, as a malicious shop is kind of by definition going
to put up info that you can't trust The downside of that though is that
when someone hears I have alot of Lego and they Google my name they immediately
get my full address

Well, I understand your reluctance but a (potential) buyer should know where
the business they are buying from is and how to contact them.
You can still locate your business elsewhere than your home, there are businesses
that lease “business location” (in short, a mailbox).
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  […]
Illegal clauses are not allowed by law? Wow, that's gonna seriously impact
the classic Bricklink experience

From how I understand it over here consumers are encouraged to look up a store
in the chamber of commerce register and check quality control websites. Then
you have some external info, as a malicious shop is kind of by definition going
to put up info that you can't trust The downside of that though is that
when someone hears I have alot of Lego and they Google my name they immediately
get my full address

Well, I understand your reluctance but a (potential) buyer should know where
the business they are buying from is and how to contact them.


I understand why it's needed. Just that my address in the first lines on
the Google search results is.. well, akward.

  You can still locate your business elsewhere than your home, there are businesses
that lease “business location” (in short, a mailbox).

That's not possible here, a condition from the chamber of commerce is that
there is business activity on the official address of the company. Besides that,
I'm also not sure if the tax agency is OK with it if rent from a different
address than the chamber of commerce addres is declared as a business expense.
There is really nothing that can be done about it, and you cannot even stop commercial
parties from showing up at your door. Starting a business means no privacy :/
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Elephant in the Room!

EU laws, postal addresses, Austria, German speaking Switzerland, ...

Please, come on...

Let's stop ignoring the elephant in the room. The only reason this is happening
now, and only happening in Germany is because in Germany (and only Germany) it
is perfectly legal to send a letter to someone else doing the tiniest
violation of a law and demand any amount of money you wish (as long as a lawyer
gets his cut). It is legalised blackmail and its called 'Abmahnung'.
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  […]
Illegal clauses are not allowed by law? Wow, that's gonna seriously impact
the classic Bricklink experience

From how I understand it over here consumers are encouraged to look up a store
in the chamber of commerce register and check quality control websites. Then
you have some external info, as a malicious shop is kind of by definition going
to put up info that you can't trust The downside of that though is that
when someone hears I have alot of Lego and they Google my name they immediately
get my full address

Well, I understand your reluctance but a (potential) buyer should know where
the business they are buying from is and how to contact them.


I understand why it's needed. Just that my address in the first lines on
the Google search results is.. well, akward.

  You can still locate your business elsewhere than your home, there are businesses
that lease “business location” (in short, a mailbox).

That's not possible here, a condition from the chamber of commerce is that
there is business activity on the official address of the company. Besides that,
I'm also not sure if the tax agency is OK with it if rent from a different
address than the chamber of commerce addres is declared as a business expense.
There is really nothing that can be done about it, and you cannot even stop commercial
parties from showing up at your door. Starting a business means no privacy :/



I would like to add my grain of salt to this discussion. The BL admin team has
made a very helpful and serious effort to implement changes such that the site
would be compliant with German law. Now there have been a number of comments
that the changes are still not fully sufficient to make everything waterproof
against further legal action against German sellers.

May I suggest the following:
1) German sellers should select a coordinator or small team of coordinators who
are active on BL and who should get advice from lawyers what exactly is needed
on the side of BL to be fully and undoubtedly compliant with German law
2) Then compile the essential points that still need modification and adjustment
and transmit this as a single clear-cut communication to the BL admin team

Otherwise the BL admin team would be trying to hit a moving target. They need
to know exactly what needs to changed / written in which place on their site.

Thomas
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Location:  Sweden, Södermanland
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 3, 2003 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Mike´s BrickVault
In Administrative, manganschlamm writes:
  I would like to add my grain of salt to this discussion. The BL admin team has
made a very helpful and serious effort to implement changes such that the site
would be compliant with German law. Now there have been a number of comments
that the changes are still not fully sufficient to make everything waterproof
against further legal action against German sellers.

May I suggest the following:
1) German sellers should select a coordinator or small team of coordinators who
are active on BL and who should get advice from lawyers what exactly is needed
on the side of BL to be fully and undoubtedly compliant with German law
2) Then compile the essential points that still need modification and adjustment
and transmit this as a single clear-cut communication to the BL admin team

Otherwise the BL admin team would be trying to hit a moving target. They need
to know exactly what needs to changed / written in which place on their site.

Thomas

+1
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Etown (1463)

Location:  Canada, Alberta
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Store: E-Town Bricks
In Administrative, manganschlamm writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  […]
Illegal clauses are not allowed by law? Wow, that's gonna seriously impact
the classic Bricklink experience

From how I understand it over here consumers are encouraged to look up a store
in the chamber of commerce register and check quality control websites. Then
you have some external info, as a malicious shop is kind of by definition going
to put up info that you can't trust The downside of that though is that
when someone hears I have alot of Lego and they Google my name they immediately
get my full address

Well, I understand your reluctance but a (potential) buyer should know where
the business they are buying from is and how to contact them.


I understand why it's needed. Just that my address in the first lines on
the Google search results is.. well, akward.

  You can still locate your business elsewhere than your home, there are businesses
that lease “business location” (in short, a mailbox).

That's not possible here, a condition from the chamber of commerce is that
there is business activity on the official address of the company. Besides that,
I'm also not sure if the tax agency is OK with it if rent from a different
address than the chamber of commerce addres is declared as a business expense.
There is really nothing that can be done about it, and you cannot even stop commercial
parties from showing up at your door. Starting a business means no privacy :/



I would like to add my grain of salt to this discussion. The BL admin team has
made a very helpful and serious effort to implement changes such that the site
would be compliant with German law. Now there have been a number of comments
that the changes are still not fully sufficient to make everything waterproof
against further legal action against German sellers.

May I suggest the following:
1) German sellers should select a coordinator or small team of coordinators who
are active on BL and who should get advice from lawyers what exactly is needed
on the side of BL to be fully and undoubtedly compliant with German law
2) Then compile the essential points that still need modification and adjustment
and transmit this as a single clear-cut communication to the BL admin team

Otherwise the BL admin team would be trying to hit a moving target. They need
to know exactly what needs to changed / written in which place on their site.

Thomas

This is a very good idea.
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Teup (4500)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store Closed Store: The T-workshop
In Administrative, manganschlamm writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  […]
Illegal clauses are not allowed by law? Wow, that's gonna seriously impact
the classic Bricklink experience

From how I understand it over here consumers are encouraged to look up a store
in the chamber of commerce register and check quality control websites. Then
you have some external info, as a malicious shop is kind of by definition going
to put up info that you can't trust The downside of that though is that
when someone hears I have alot of Lego and they Google my name they immediately
get my full address

Well, I understand your reluctance but a (potential) buyer should know where
the business they are buying from is and how to contact them.


I understand why it's needed. Just that my address in the first lines on
the Google search results is.. well, akward.

  You can still locate your business elsewhere than your home, there are businesses
that lease “business location” (in short, a mailbox).

That's not possible here, a condition from the chamber of commerce is that
there is business activity on the official address of the company. Besides that,
I'm also not sure if the tax agency is OK with it if rent from a different
address than the chamber of commerce addres is declared as a business expense.
There is really nothing that can be done about it, and you cannot even stop commercial
parties from showing up at your door. Starting a business means no privacy :/



I would like to add my grain of salt to this discussion. The BL admin team has
made a very helpful and serious effort to implement changes such that the site
would be compliant with German law. Now there have been a number of comments
that the changes are still not fully sufficient to make everything waterproof
against further legal action against German sellers.

May I suggest the following:
1) German sellers should select a coordinator or small team of coordinators who
are active on BL and who should get advice from lawyers what exactly is needed
on the side of BL to be fully and undoubtedly compliant with German law
2) Then compile the essential points that still need modification and adjustment
and transmit this as a single clear-cut communication to the BL admin team

Otherwise the BL admin team would be trying to hit a moving target. They need
to know exactly what needs to changed / written in which place on their site.

Thomas

Totally agree. Communication is definitely a weak point of Bricklink. This could
be a good opportunity for them to pracise that neglected area a bit and have
some positive experiences along the way.
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Etown (1463)

Location:  Canada, Alberta
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Store: E-Town Bricks
In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Thank you Cheyne!

In the future, it might be beneficial for Bricklink to communicate early on that
this was being worked on. At least knowing that someone hears your concerns and
is trying to help is better than silence.

Ron
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Location:  Germany, Baden-Württemberg
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Store: Outer Bricks
  Thank you Cheyne!

+1

  In the future, it might be beneficial for Bricklink to communicate early on that
this was being worked on. At least knowing that someone hears your concerns and
is trying to help is better than silence.

+1

  
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Location:  USA, Ohio
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Store: Brick-N-Brac
  Thank you Cheyne!

+1

  In the future, it might be beneficial for Bricklink to communicate early on that
this was being worked on. At least knowing that someone hears your concerns and
is trying to help is better than silence.

Ron

+1
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Teup (4500)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Administrative, Etown writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Thank you Cheyne!

In the future, it might be beneficial for Bricklink to communicate early on that
this was being worked on. At least knowing that someone hears your concerns and
is trying to help is better than silence.

Ron

+1

You probably can't imagine how even a silly message that BL has no clue how
to solve it yet already is so much better than no message. Probably, being forced
to close your shop and having no clue if BL will ever care to enable you to
open again, can mean alot of worries and already thoughts about different career
plans..
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Ddriver (623)

Location:  Switzerland, Bern
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store: Swiss-Rare-Bricks-and-Sets
In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Hi,
According to the lawyer, the problem is nevertheless possible in Switzerland
and only a matter of time.
I was recommended by the lawyer to close my shop, as at any time a reminder would
be possible. Its not a joke.
Please ask BL everything that is made for Germany to extend to Switzerland and
Austria. Thank you very much.
Best regards Daniel.
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SylvainLS (32)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Administrative, Ddriver66 writes:
  […]
Hi,
According to the lawyer, the problem is nevertheless possible in Switzerland
and only a matter of time.
I was recommended by the lawyer to close my shop, as at any time a reminder would
be possible. Its not a joke.
Please ask BL everything that is made for Germany to extend to Switzerland and
Austria. Thank you very much.
Best regards Daniel.

What’s the reason? Because you sell to Germany or because Switzerland has a
similar law and shakedown procedure?

(Note to readers: Switzerland isn’t part of EU. So if it were to apply in Switzerland
just because they have German buyers, it could apply worldwide.)
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Ddriver (623)

Location:  Switzerland, Bern
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Store: Swiss-Rare-Bricks-and-Sets
In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Ddriver66 writes:
  […]
Hi,
According to the lawyer, the problem is nevertheless possible in Switzerland
and only a matter of time.
I was recommended by the lawyer to close my shop, as at any time a reminder would
be possible. Its not a joke.
Please ask BL everything that is made for Germany to extend to Switzerland and
Austria. Thank you very much.
Best regards Daniel.

What’s the reason? Because you sell to Germany or because Switzerland has a
similar law and shakedown procedure?

(Note to readers: Switzerland isn’t part of EU. So if it were to apply in Switzerland
just because they have German buyers, it could apply worldwide.)


As well ... as. I have buyers in the EU, so also in D and we have bilateral contracts
where this unfortunately includes.
I would prefer it if it were not so, but the politicians and big industrialists
want it differently than we little people.
Best regards Daniel.
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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  Hi,
According to the lawyer, the problem is nevertheless possible in Switzerland
and only a matter of time.
I was recommended by the lawyer to close my shop, as at any time a reminder would
be possible. Its not a joke.
Please ask BL everything that is made for Germany to extend to Switzerland and
Austria. Thank you very much.
Best regards Daniel.

Which law? There are two things mentioned here, which one prompted this lawyer
to recommend that you close your store?
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GrayCityBricks (478)

Location:  Germany, Schleswig-Holstein
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Store: Gray City Bricks
Thank you Cheyne,

the "Impressum", which contains name, adress and other details of the seller,
has to be reachable from every site with one click. The caption of the button
has to be explicitly "Impressum". "Hiding" the informations on the terms-site
does not meet the requirements.

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support
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Location:  Germany, Bayern
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Store: BRICKS.STEINE
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Teup (4500)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Store Closed Store: The T-workshop
So what's the latest on this? Any contact with any of the sellers to get
this project completed, or was it just one attempt at a slight modification,
one message in the forum and that's it?

In Administrative, steine.bricks writes:
  I am not sure if it works in general.

I just wanted to place an order in a German shop.

Everything is in English, the button did not have the proper words...

Can someone send a screenshot how it should be?

Thanks

Stefan

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support
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Location:  Germany, Schleswig-Holstein
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In addition you also need the Impressum-Link on every site.
At this time, every german seller puts the Impressum on the terms site.
This does not meet the requirements of the german law.

I would suggest that there is a seperated section for the Impressum.

In Administrative, steine.bricks writes:
  I can only say that the button with a proper German phrase did not work when
I tried to order something (from a German store).

And as I cannot see (as a seller) that the "good" button appears on every selling
process, I will not re-open my store again

Now it was only a few hundred Euros "penalty", but when we are catched the next
time by IDO, it will be a few thousand Euros.

That's why it would be nice, that the solution is stable and the proper button
works everytime someone orders in a German shop.

Merry Christmas!

Stefan

In Administrative, Teup writes:
  So what's the latest on this? Any contact with any of the sellers to get
this project completed, or was it just one attempt at a slight modification,
one message in the forum and that's it?

In Administrative, steine.bricks writes:
  I am not sure if it works in general.

I just wanted to place an order in a German shop.

Everything is in English, the button did not have the proper words...

Can someone send a screenshot how it should be?

Thanks

Stefan

In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!

Wanted to take a moment and thank all of our sellers and the community for their
immense patience regarding this situation and we truly do appreciate it. BrickLink
is dedicated to being compliant with German law.

Here are a few items being changed
1. Compliant Pay Button (Translated to German)
2. Compliant 0-3 Choking Hazard Warning Added (Footer, Checkout, and Image
listing popup)

(Please note this will only affect Buyers and Sellers in Germany)

Another issue was stated regarding shipping prices, please use Instant Checkout
or provide the proper shipping table in your store terms and shipping policies.
Please let us know of any further changes can be made so we may better assist
you.

Thank you all again for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support
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Location:  Germany, Hessen
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Store: New Brick City
In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!


(...)

  
Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Hi,

thanks for the changes, but there are still a few things to fix. Could you call
it "AGB" instead of "terms" and could you implement another button called "Impressum"?
Both able to reach from every side in German shops?

Best regards!
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Location:  Germany, Bayern
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Store: The Flying Bricks
In Administrative, Brickcitybricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!


(...)

  
Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Hi,

thanks for the changes, but there are still a few things to fix. Could you call
it "AGB" instead of "terms" and could you implement another button called "Impressum"?
Both able to reach from every side in German shops?

Best regards!

Hi everyone,
is there any news on that topic in the pipeline? Since a lot of sellers wait
for further information on how this will proceed. If you require more information
about what is to be changed, I'm pretty sure we can deliver such.
Thank you, regards
Lukas
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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Administrative, LimaRomeo writes:
  In Administrative, Brickcitybricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!


(...)

  
Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Hi,

thanks for the changes, but there are still a few things to fix. Could you call
it "AGB" instead of "terms" and could you implement another button called "Impressum"?
Both able to reach from every side in German shops?

Best regards!

Hi everyone,
is there any news on that topic in the pipeline? Since a lot of sellers wait
for further information on how this will proceed. If you require more information
about what is to be changed, I'm pretty sure we can deliver such.
Thank you, regards
Lukas

Strange that all that ever happened was one half-hearted attempt and one message
about how BL cares about German sellers, and then the whole thing was abandoned.
If you know Bricklink, it's not surprising nothing happens, but just surprising
they made that initial effort at all, as it was useless. At least I think that
shows that Bricklink is just understaffed and clumsily managed instead of there
being some malicious intent or hidden agenda to not care... that's the "good"
news I guess..
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Location:  Germany, Niedersachsen
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, LimaRomeo writes:
  In Administrative, Brickcitybricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!


(...)

  
Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Hi,

thanks for the changes, but there are still a few things to fix. Could you call
it "AGB" instead of "terms" and could you implement another button called "Impressum"?
Both able to reach from every side in German shops?

Best regards!

Hi everyone,
is there any news on that topic in the pipeline? Since a lot of sellers wait
for further information on how this will proceed. If you require more information
about what is to be changed, I'm pretty sure we can deliver such.
Thank you, regards
Lukas

Strange that all that ever happened was one half-hearted attempt and one message
about how BL cares about German sellers, and then the whole thing was abandoned.
If you know Bricklink, it's not surprising nothing happens, but just surprising
they made that initial effort at all, as it was useless. At least I think that
shows that Bricklink is just understaffed and clumsily managed instead of there
being some malicious intent or hidden agenda to not care... that's the "good"
news I guess..

+1
 Author: Flying_Bricks View Messages Posted By Flying_Bricks
 Posted: Feb 22, 2019 05:53
 Subject: Re: German Seller Compliance
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Location:  Germany, Bayern
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I know, everyone is busy with the crowdfunding project. Though, again, I'd
like to point out our questions regarding some more German seller compliance
issues.
Any news about that?
Best regards!

In Administrative, tiger24 writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, LimaRomeo writes:
  In Administrative, Brickcitybricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!


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Sincerely,
Cheyne
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Hi,

thanks for the changes, but there are still a few things to fix. Could you call
it "AGB" instead of "terms" and could you implement another button called "Impressum"?
Both able to reach from every side in German shops?

Best regards!

Hi everyone,
is there any news on that topic in the pipeline? Since a lot of sellers wait
for further information on how this will proceed. If you require more information
about what is to be changed, I'm pretty sure we can deliver such.
Thank you, regards
Lukas

Strange that all that ever happened was one half-hearted attempt and one message
about how BL cares about German sellers, and then the whole thing was abandoned.
If you know Bricklink, it's not surprising nothing happens, but just surprising
they made that initial effort at all, as it was useless. At least I think that
shows that Bricklink is just understaffed and clumsily managed instead of there
being some malicious intent or hidden agenda to not care... that's the "good"
news I guess..

+1
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 22, 2019 12:14
 Subject: Re: German Seller Compliance
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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Well, according to admin Russell everything is solved, right? He said they've
worked together with knowledgable German sellers and addressed all the issues.

In Administrative, LimaRomeo writes:
  I know, everyone is busy with the crowdfunding project. Though, again, I'd
like to point out our questions regarding some more German seller compliance
issues.
Any news about that?
Best regards!

In Administrative, tiger24 writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, LimaRomeo writes:
  In Administrative, Brickcitybricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Cheyne writes:
  Hello everyone!


(...)

  
Sincerely,
Cheyne
BrickLink Customer Support

Hi,

thanks for the changes, but there are still a few things to fix. Could you call
it "AGB" instead of "terms" and could you implement another button called "Impressum"?
Both able to reach from every side in German shops?

Best regards!

Hi everyone,
is there any news on that topic in the pipeline? Since a lot of sellers wait
for further information on how this will proceed. If you require more information
about what is to be changed, I'm pretty sure we can deliver such.
Thank you, regards
Lukas

Strange that all that ever happened was one half-hearted attempt and one message
about how BL cares about German sellers, and then the whole thing was abandoned.
If you know Bricklink, it's not surprising nothing happens, but just surprising
they made that initial effort at all, as it was useless. At least I think that
shows that Bricklink is just understaffed and clumsily managed instead of there
being some malicious intent or hidden agenda to not care... that's the "good"
news I guess..

+1