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 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Dec 12, 2018 21:27
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 01:11
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}

Since this set does not have instructions, we must look to the box to show us
what the figure should be inventoried as. Unfortunately, the box is also inconclusive
in this case as it shows the figure without the helmet on the front of the box
and with the helmet on the back of the box.

This is a tough call. I would like them to all be consistent in this set, so
let's look a little further.

There are nine complete figures in total shown on the box (three with the black
arms, three with the blue arms, and three with the red arms). Of those nine,
only three of them are shown with the helmets (one with the black arms and two
with the red arms). Therefore, the blue-armed figure should definitely not have
a helmet. (Helmets: 0; No Helmets: 1)

That leaves the black-armed figure and the red-armed figure. The black-armed
figure has two images without helmet and one with helmet. Looking at the score
shows that the black-armed figure should also not have a helmet. (Helmets: 0;
No Helmets: 2)

Finally, the red-armed figure has two images with helmet and one without helmet.
Looking at the score for this one shows that the red-armed figure should have
a helmet. (Helmets: 1, No Helmets: 2)

Since the "No Helmets" win by one point, my decision is to go with all figures
in the set with no helmets for consistency.

What do you think, Marek?

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: FreeStorm View Messages Posted By FreeStorm
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}

Since this set does not have instructions, we must look to the box to show us
what the figure should be inventoried as. Unfortunately, the box is also inconclusive
in this case as it shows the figure without the helmet on the front of the box
and with the helmet on the back of the box.

This is a tough call. I would like them to all be consistent in this set, so
let's look a little further.

There are nine complete figures in total shown on the box (three with the black
arms, three with the blue arms, and three with the red arms). Of those nine,
only three of them are shown with the helmets (one with the black arms and two
with the red arms). Therefore, the blue-armed figure should definitely not have
a helmet. (Helmets: 0; No Helmets: 1)

That leaves the black-armed figure and the red-armed figure. The black-armed
figure has two images without helmet and one with helmet. Looking at the score
shows that the black-armed figure should also not have a helmet. (Helmets: 0;
No Helmets: 2)

Finally, the red-armed figure has two images with helmet and one without helmet.
Looking at the score for this one shows that the red-armed figure should have
a helmet. (Helmets: 1, No Helmets: 2)

Since the "No Helmets" win by one point, my decision is to go with all figures
in the set with no helmets for consistency.

What do you think, Marek?

Cheers,
Randy

Hello,

Maybe this link can Help:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714a.jpg

You can see the helmets into sealed bag on the background.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 06:23
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}

Since this set does not have instructions, we must look to the box to show us
what the figure should be inventoried as. Unfortunately, the box is also inconclusive
in this case as it shows the figure without the helmet on the front of the box
and with the helmet on the back of the box.

This is a tough call. I would like them to all be consistent in this set, so
let's look a little further.

There are nine complete figures in total shown on the box (three with the black
arms, three with the blue arms, and three with the red arms). Of those nine,
only three of them are shown with the helmets (one with the black arms and two
with the red arms). Therefore, the blue-armed figure should definitely not have
a helmet. (Helmets: 0; No Helmets: 1)

That leaves the black-armed figure and the red-armed figure. The black-armed
figure has two images without helmet and one with helmet. Looking at the score
shows that the black-armed figure should also not have a helmet. (Helmets: 0;
No Helmets: 2)

Finally, the red-armed figure has two images with helmet and one without helmet.
Looking at the score for this one shows that the red-armed figure should have
a helmet. (Helmets: 1, No Helmets: 2)

Since the "No Helmets" win by one point, my decision is to go with all figures
in the set with no helmets for consistency.

What do you think, Marek?

Cheers,
Randy

Agree to this
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}

Since this set does not have instructions, we must look to the box to show us
what the figure should be inventoried as. Unfortunately, the box is also inconclusive
in this case as it shows the figure without the helmet on the front of the box
and with the helmet on the back of the box.

This is a tough call. I would like them to all be consistent in this set, so
let's look a little further.

There are nine complete figures in total shown on the box (three with the black
arms, three with the blue arms, and three with the red arms). Of those nine,
only three of them are shown with the helmets (one with the black arms and two
with the red arms). Therefore, the blue-armed figure should definitely not have
a helmet. (Helmets: 0; No Helmets: 1)

That leaves the black-armed figure and the red-armed figure. The black-armed
figure has two images without helmet and one with helmet. Looking at the score
shows that the black-armed figure should also not have a helmet. (Helmets: 0;
No Helmets: 2)

Finally, the red-armed figure has two images with helmet and one without helmet.
Looking at the score for this one shows that the red-armed figure should have
a helmet. (Helmets: 1, No Helmets: 2)

Since the "No Helmets" win by one point, my decision is to go with all figures
in the set with no helmets for consistency.

What do you think, Marek?

Cheers,
Randy

Agree to this

It will be difficult to implement.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}

Since this set does not have instructions, we must look to the box to show us
what the figure should be inventoried as. Unfortunately, the box is also inconclusive
in this case as it shows the figure without the helmet on the front of the box
and with the helmet on the back of the box.

This is a tough call. I would like them to all be consistent in this set, so
let's look a little further.

There are nine complete figures in total shown on the box (three with the black
arms, three with the blue arms, and three with the red arms). Of those nine,
only three of them are shown with the helmets (one with the black arms and two
with the red arms). Therefore, the blue-armed figure should definitely not have
a helmet. (Helmets: 0; No Helmets: 1)

That leaves the black-armed figure and the red-armed figure. The black-armed
figure has two images without helmet and one with helmet. Looking at the score
shows that the black-armed figure should also not have a helmet. (Helmets: 0;
No Helmets: 2)

Finally, the red-armed figure has two images with helmet and one without helmet.
Looking at the score for this one shows that the red-armed figure should have
a helmet. (Helmets: 1, No Helmets: 2)

Since the "No Helmets" win by one point, my decision is to go with all figures
in the set with no helmets for consistency.

What do you think, Marek?

Cheers,
Randy

Agree to this

It will be difficult to implement.

No, not difficult to implement; just slightly difficult to get the right minifigs
into the catalog quickly. For now, I will add an inventory note to the set stating
that the other two figures should be without helmets, and I will see if I can
get some cheap figures for the fixes.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8714  Name: The LEGO TECHNIC Team
* 
8714-1 (Inv) The LEGO TECHNIC Team
3 Minifigures, 1993
Sets: Technic: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Part 2715 Black Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet
* Delete 1 Part 2716 Trans-Clear Technic, Figure Accessory Helmet Visor
* Change 1 Minifig {tech012 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms to tech030 Technic Figure Black Legs, Light Gray Top with 2 Brown Belts, Black Arms, Black Helmet}

Since this set does not have instructions, we must look to the box to show us
what the figure should be inventoried as. Unfortunately, the box is also inconclusive
in this case as it shows the figure without the helmet on the front of the box
and with the helmet on the back of the box.

This is a tough call. I would like them to all be consistent in this set, so
let's look a little further.

There are nine complete figures in total shown on the box (three with the black
arms, three with the blue arms, and three with the red arms). Of those nine,
only three of them are shown with the helmets (one with the black arms and two
with the red arms). Therefore, the blue-armed figure should definitely not have
a helmet. (Helmets: 0; No Helmets: 1)

That leaves the black-armed figure and the red-armed figure. The black-armed
figure has two images without helmet and one with helmet. Looking at the score
shows that the black-armed figure should also not have a helmet. (Helmets: 0;
No Helmets: 2)

Finally, the red-armed figure has two images with helmet and one without helmet.
Looking at the score for this one shows that the red-armed figure should have
a helmet. (Helmets: 1, No Helmets: 2)

Since the "No Helmets" win by one point, my decision is to go with all figures
in the set with no helmets for consistency.

What do you think, Marek?

Cheers,
Randy

Agree to this

It will be difficult to implement.

No, not difficult to implement; just slightly difficult to get the right minifigs
into the catalog quickly. For now, I will add an inventory note to the set stating
that the other two figures should be without helmets, and I will see if I can
get some cheap figures for the fixes.

Cheers,
Randy

I've been looking around too.
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  No, not difficult to implement; just slightly difficult to get the right minifigs
into the catalog quickly. For now, I will add an inventory note to the set stating
that the other two figures should be without helmets, and I will see if I can
get some cheap figures for the fixes.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry to disturb this post.
but I don't understand something:

On this link (unboxing of 8714) you can see the minifigs are pre-build (or mounted?).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268806

The helmets are not on the minifigs.
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714b.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714a.jpg

Same for set 8640:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=285129
or set 8620:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=490149
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In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  
  No, not difficult to implement; just slightly difficult to get the right minifigs
into the catalog quickly. For now, I will add an inventory note to the set stating
that the other two figures should be without helmets, and I will see if I can
get some cheap figures for the fixes.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry to disturb this post.
but I don't understand something:

On this link (unboxing of 8714) you can see the minifigs are pre-build (or mounted?).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268806

The helmets are not on the minifigs.
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714b.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714a.jpg

Same for set 8640:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=285129
or set 8620:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=490149

Yes, the figures always came fully assembled. In other words, they were not meant
to be taken apart. However, people here have asked for the ability to sell individual
parts from these figures because they *can* be taken apart to some extent.

The catalog admins changed their policies to allow the individual parts from
these figures to be added to the catalog. The inventory admins need to now determine
how to handle these figures. I think it is necessary to go in the direction of
inventorying these figures with individual parts if the parts are to be added
to the catalog. Otherwise, there will be more orphaned parts in the catalog,
and the new admin team is trying to move away from items in the catalog that
are orphaned (not attached to any inventories).

Although these Technic figures will have an inventory attached to them once individual
parts become available, the main set inventories that include these figures will
always show them as coming fully assembled. Determining whether they are in the
set with or without helmet is left to the set instructions just like all other
figures in the catalog.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  
  No, not difficult to implement; just slightly difficult to get the right minifigs
into the catalog quickly. For now, I will add an inventory note to the set stating
that the other two figures should be without helmets, and I will see if I can
get some cheap figures for the fixes.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry to disturb this post.
but I don't understand something:

On this link (unboxing of 8714) you can see the minifigs are pre-build (or mounted?).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268806

The helmets are not on the minifigs.
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714b.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714a.jpg

Same for set 8640:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=285129
or set 8620:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=490149

Yes, the figures always came fully assembled. In other words, they were not meant
to be taken apart. However, people here have asked for the ability to sell individual
parts from these figures because they *can* be taken apart to some extent.

The catalog admins changed their policies to allow the individual parts from
these figures to be added to the catalog. The inventory admins need to now determine
how to handle these figures. I think it is necessary to go in the direction of
inventorying these figures with individual parts if the parts are to be added
to the catalog. Otherwise, there will be more orphaned parts in the catalog,
and the new admin team is trying to move away from items in the catalog that
are orphaned (not attached to any inventories).

Although these Technic figures will have an inventory attached to them once individual
parts become available, the main set inventories that include these figures will
always show them as coming fully assembled. Determining whether they are in the
set with or without helmet is left to the set instructions just like all other
figures in the catalog.

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks you very much for your answer.
I own some of these figures, I will try to add figures parts to the catalog
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In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  
  No, not difficult to implement; just slightly difficult to get the right minifigs
into the catalog quickly. For now, I will add an inventory note to the set stating
that the other two figures should be without helmets, and I will see if I can
get some cheap figures for the fixes.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry to disturb this post.
but I don't understand something:

On this link (unboxing of 8714) you can see the minifigs are pre-build (or mounted?).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268806

The helmets are not on the minifigs.
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714b.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Technic/8714/8714a.jpg

Same for set 8640:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=285129
or set 8620:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=490149

Yes, the figures always came fully assembled. In other words, they were not meant
to be taken apart. However, people here have asked for the ability to sell individual
parts from these figures because they *can* be taken apart to some extent.

The catalog admins changed their policies to allow the individual parts from
these figures to be added to the catalog. The inventory admins need to now determine
how to handle these figures. I think it is necessary to go in the direction of
inventorying these figures with individual parts if the parts are to be added
to the catalog. Otherwise, there will be more orphaned parts in the catalog,
and the new admin team is trying to move away from items in the catalog that
are orphaned (not attached to any inventories).

Although these Technic figures will have an inventory attached to them once individual
parts become available, the main set inventories that include these figures will
always show them as coming fully assembled. Determining whether they are in the
set with or without helmet is left to the set instructions just like all other
figures in the catalog.

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks you very much for your answer.
I own some of these figures, I will try to add figures parts to the catalog

That would be excellent! Thanks for the help!

Cheers,
Randy