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 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 16:19
 Subject: Wondering if part 53588 exists - want to buy
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Brickitty (6425)

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Hi everybody!

I've had quite an adventure trying to track down a copy of 53588 Dark Bluish
Gray Baseplate, Raised 16 x 16 No Studs with Cross Opening, 4 Holes.

I got an incomplete copy of 7739 in a Craigslist lot and wanted to complete it.
First, I bought 2 copies of 53588 from USA sellers early this year, but when
they arrived they both had the Red and Light Gray marbling described in the entry
for 53588pb01. The marbling is fairly subtle, so I didn't blame the sellers
for missing it, and they both gave me refunds.

Then I tried messaging every single North American seller who had a copy of 53588
listed to see if it was actually solid Dark Bluish Gray with no marbling. Many
never replied, but all took down their listings within a week. I was busy for
a few months, but over the last week I've messaged more sellers. Again, nothing.
Most sellers have taken down their listings, and the 3 that returned my messages
confirmed that there was marbling in their copies that they missed.

Now I'm starting to wonder if a solid-color 53588 with no marbling actually
exists. I've tried Google, Brickset, and other sources to find pictures of
the set, but no pictures show the part in high enough quality to confirm there's
no marbling -- except box and instruction artwork, which doesn't count.

The biggest thing that makes me suspect that a non-marbled piece doesn't
exist is that both of the marbled 53588pb01 copies I have are almost definitely
Dark Bluish Gray, not Dark Gray... but they still have marbling. According to
Bricklink, those pieces shouldn't exist. So perhaps the part was entered
incorrectly, and the old Dark Gray versions of the mold from 4 Bionicle sets
and the Dark Bluish Gray version in 7739 are all marbled?

Can anyone who owns 7739, especially a copy they built new, check to see if their
53588 from that set is marbled? And if any seller out there can confirm that
they have a non-marbled piece for sale, you will immediately get my business.

Thanks everyone!
-Jordy (Brickitty)
 Author: RecycledBrick View Messages Posted By RecycledBrick
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 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 16:38
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https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 16:55
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Brickitty (6425)

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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:07
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:11
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StormChaser (565)

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In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  
  You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I believe it is asking a bit much that we purchase from stores whenever errors
are discovered in the catalog.

I am not wealthy and this is a volunteer position. If an error exists with this
part then I apologize, but that's about as much as my budget will allow.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:26
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Brickitty (6425)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  
  You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I believe it is asking a bit much that we purchase from stores whenever errors
are discovered in the catalog.

I am not wealthy and this is a volunteer position. If an error exists with this
part then I apologize, but that's about as much as my budget will allow.

Do you need any more evidence to make the change in the catalog, or is this sufficient?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:31
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  Do you need any more evidence to make the change in the catalog, or is this sufficient?

I agree with the change based on the little research I've done today and
what others have said. However, it is possible (though unlikely) that a straight
DBG version of this plate was made. Forcing everything over would mess up some
sellers if they had the rare version (which again, probably doesn't exist).

Let me contact some of these sellers and I'll reply back later with the results.
Or, if you'd be willing to continue contacting them yourself it would be
appreciated.

Good catch on discovering this, BTW.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:54
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Brickitty (6425)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  Do you need any more evidence to make the change in the catalog, or is this sufficient?

I agree with the change based on the little research I've done today and
what others have said. However, it is possible (though unlikely) that a straight
DBG version of this plate was made. Forcing everything over would mess up some
sellers if they had the rare version (which again, probably doesn't exist).

Let me contact some of these sellers and I'll reply back later with the results.
Or, if you'd be willing to continue contacting them yourself it would be
appreciated.

Good catch on discovering this, BTW.

Thanks! I would be happy to continue contacting sellers, letting them know to
get back to me if they can confirm the existence of a solid-colored DBG version.
I'll follow up with you next week.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 19:39
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  I agree with the change based on the little research I've done today and
what others have said. However, it is possible (though unlikely) that a straight
DBG version of this plate was made. Forcing everything over would mess up some
sellers if they had the rare version (which again, probably doesn't exist).

This part is cataloged as "dark gray"; the rest of the "gray" parts in the set
are dbg. This piece (well, the couple I have here anyway) I find closer to dbg
than dg. Picture attached. DG motor and DBG 2x3 brick for color comparison.
 
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I'll definitely send a message to the sellers I messaged before, to let them
know they should relist the parts appropriately. But I'm curious why you
think I'm in any way responsible for the catalog error or receiving refunds
for what I could only assume were mistakes? I was just going off of the catalog,
and it's only the difficulties during this last week that led me to believe
that the part might not exist in a non-marbled version.
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
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MidwestBrick (1855)

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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I'll definitely send a message to the sellers I messaged before, to let them
know they should relist the parts appropriately. But I'm curious why you
think I'm in any way responsible for the catalog error or receiving refunds
for what I could only assume were mistakes? I was just going off of the catalog,
and it's only the difficulties during this last week that led me to believe
that the part might not exist in a non-marbled version.

Guess tough crowd to crack a joke within, I'll keep my fun thoughts to myself
next time. (I'm smiling and having a chuckle while I write this). Best
of luck in your investigation.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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Brickitty (6425)

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In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I'll definitely send a message to the sellers I messaged before, to let them
know they should relist the parts appropriately. But I'm curious why you
think I'm in any way responsible for the catalog error or receiving refunds
for what I could only assume were mistakes? I was just going off of the catalog,
and it's only the difficulties during this last week that led me to believe
that the part might not exist in a non-marbled version.

Guess tough crowd to crack a joke within, I'll keep my fun thoughts to myself
next time. (I'm smiling and having a chuckle while I write this). Best
of luck in your investigation.

No worries. The levity didn't make it through my screen -- though I miss
jokes in person too, so maybe I can't blame the lack of physiological clues.
Anyway, have a good one!
 Author: WildBricks View Messages Posted By WildBricks
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I have sold a bunch of these. I did list one that I thought had no marbling,
but then when I got ready to ship it I realized there was a tiny bit of marbling
at one corner. I think that there were some produced that had such a small amount
of marbling that if you didn't look at it closely you could mistake it for
solid as I did. Luckily my buyer seemed happy with it regardless.

This is the total of what I have currently in stock, but I'll check my storage
and if I see more I'll shoot you a message.
 
 Author: edeevo View Messages Posted By edeevo
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In Catalog, RoswellGinny writes:
  I have sold a bunch of these. I did list one that I thought had no marbling,
but then when I got ready to ship it I realized there was a tiny bit of marbling
at one corner. I think that there were some produced that had such a small amount
of marbling that if you didn't look at it closely you could mistake it for
solid as I did. Luckily my buyer seemed happy with it regardless.

This is the total of what I have currently in stock, but I'll check my storage
and if I see more I'll shoot you a message.

^^This^^

I've also sold a bunch of these items over the years and a few had very little
marbling on them, but it was still there... I recall one of them had the marbling
that could only be seen on the bottom of the base, except for a slight marbled
curved line that ran down one side of it (the whole top looked like a solid color
with a weird curved line in it)... I remember it, because on at least a few occasions
I would see it in a certain light, and think the part was actually cracked.

Life is Good.
~Ed.
 Author: ParisianStore View Messages Posted By ParisianStore
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Hi,

Here are mine, I guess we we can consider both as marbled, even if one them has
no orange.
 


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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  Can anyone who owns 7739, especially a copy they built new, check to see if their
53588 from that set is marbled?

Thank you to everyone who generously provided photos and shared their experiences
with this part. Considering that not a single person was able to show that the
non-marbled part exists, I have merged 53588 with 53588pb01.

 
Part No: 53588pb01  Name: Baseplate, Raised 16 x 16 No Studs with Cross Opening, 4 Holes, Marbled Red, Light Gray, Black Pattern
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53588pb01 Baseplate, Raised 16 x 16 No Studs with Cross Opening, 4 Holes, Marbled Red, Light Gray, Black Pattern
Parts: Baseplate, Raised