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| | | Author: | PurpleDave  | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2018 15:57 | | Subject: | Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 130 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Recently someone on an AFOL blog posted a rather cryptic bombshell that Brickheadz
and Dimensions were allowed exclusive access to certain elements (part+color).
It didn't go into any real detail, asked that you not ask how the author
came to know this game-changing piece of information, and left it at that. When
the subject came up again in a way that didn't really support the original
claim, and I asked for clarification, my post was deleted, the original text
from the previous article was deleted, and the only explanation left labelled
the original claim both "contradictory" and an "insight". I don't expect
to get a clear answer there, so I'm asking here:
Does anyone know of any rule that Brickheadz (and before it Dimensions) can call
up elements that nobody else can use?
My understanding is that if you design a set that needs a Glow-in-the-Dark 2x4
brick, then as long as you've covered the cost of getting it into production
under your budget, any other set designer has access to that element for free,
basically. According to the original claim, it sounded like those two themes
could potentially bring a GitD 2x4 brick into existence, and every other theme
would be prohibited from using it.
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| | | | | Author: | DeLuca | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2018 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, PurpleDave writes:
| | Recently someone on an AFOL blog posted a rather cryptic bombshell that Brickheadz
and Dimensions were allowed exclusive access to certain elements (part+color).
It didn't go into any real detail, asked that you not ask how the author
came to know this game-changing piece of information, and left it at that. When
the subject came up again in a way that didn't really support the original
claim, and I asked for clarification, my post was deleted, the original text
from the previous article was deleted, and the only explanation left labelled
the original claim both "contradictory" and an "insight". I don't expect
to get a clear answer there, so I'm asking here:
Does anyone know of any rule that Brickheadz (and before it Dimensions) can call
up elements that nobody else can use?
My understanding is that if you design a set that needs a Glow-in-the-Dark 2x4
brick, then as long as you've covered the cost of getting it into production
under your budget, any other set designer has access to that element for free,
basically. According to the original claim, it sounded like those two themes
could potentially bring a GitD 2x4 brick into existence, and every other theme
would be prohibited from using it.
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I am not familiar with this situation, but it sounds as though the original
author was stating that Dimensions and Brickheadz are allowed to use license-specific
elements, rather than that they can create exclusive elements.
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| | | | | | | Author: | PurpleDave | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2018 18:44 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, DeLuca writes:
| | I am not familiar with this situation, but it sounds as though the original
author was stating that Dimensions and Brickheadz are allowed to use license-specific
elements, rather than that they can create exclusive elements.
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No, my recolection is that the way the deleted text was worded is that you may
see elements released in colors that will only ever appear in Brickheadz because
that shape in that color is part of a special run that's restricted to Brickheadz
use.
Now, due to the odd nature of Brickheadz, I could see the Powers That Be ruling
that Brickheadz gets to commission one-time runs of new or retired elements,
and that no other theme gets to piggyback on those runs, but leaving open the
possibility that if any other theme actually wants those elements they can order
it up just like any other Q element.
Note that "element" refers to the shape and color combined. Brickheadz, like
Ideas, is restricted from generating new molds, so IP-specific elements are highly
unlikely to ever even appear in this theme. Minifig accessories are the one
potential exception I can think of, since some do hold weapons, but I can't
think of any that are actually _exclusive_ to Brickheadz (e.g. Jack Sparrow's
cutlass isn't even IP-specific, much less a new color). Dimensions not only
got to make new molds, they got to make new IP-specific molds, many of which
have never been used outside of that theme, which is very different from what
Brickheadz get access to.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Classicsmiley | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2018 08:10 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, PurpleDave writes:
| | In Colors, DeLuca writes:
| | I am not familiar with this situation, but it sounds as though the original
author was stating that Dimensions and Brickheadz are allowed to use license-specific
elements, rather than that they can create exclusive elements.
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No, my recolection is that the way the deleted text was worded is that you may
see elements released in colors that will only ever appear in Brickheadz because
that shape in that color is part of a special run that's restricted to Brickheadz
use.
Now, due to the odd nature of Brickheadz, I could see the Powers That Be ruling
that Brickheadz gets to commission one-time runs of new or retired elements,
and that no other theme gets to piggyback on those runs, but leaving open the
possibility that if any other theme actually wants those elements they can order
it up just like any other Q element.
Note that "element" refers to the shape and color combined. Brickheadz, like
Ideas, is restricted from generating new molds, so IP-specific elements are highly
unlikely to ever even appear in this theme. Minifig accessories are the one
potential exception I can think of, since some do hold weapons, but I can't
think of any that are actually _exclusive_ to Brickheadz (e.g. Jack Sparrow's
cutlass isn't even IP-specific, much less a new color). Dimensions not only
got to make new molds, they got to make new IP-specific molds, many of which
have never been used outside of that theme, which is very different from what
Brickheadz get access to.
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Based on what I heard years ago, some elements could be considered "licensed,"
even if they didn't have a specific license-related shape or print. Sometimes
if a theme group needs a particular element for a model, they can get it, and
it's not available for other theme groups.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PurpleDave | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2018 20:44 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
| | Based on what I heard years ago, some elements could be considered "licensed,"
even if they didn't have a specific license-related shape or print. Sometimes
if a theme group needs a particular element for a model, they can get it, and
it's not available for other theme groups.
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I know that a lot of prints are IP-specific, and I know that a lot of molds are
IP-specific, both due to licensing restrictions (can't let everyone use Darth
Vader helmets). For a while, the lightsaber hilt (but probably not the blade)
was one of these molds.
But again, what this sounded like was molds that were available for general use,
but restricting certain colors with that mold to either the Dimensions or
Brickheadz theme. Like everyone gets to use as many 1x1 quarter-round tiles
as they want, but only Brickheadz gets to make it in a few select colors.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Classicsmiley | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2018 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, PurpleDave writes:
| | In Colors, Classicsmiley writes:
| | Based on what I heard years ago, some elements could be considered "licensed,"
even if they didn't have a specific license-related shape or print. Sometimes
if a theme group needs a particular element for a model, they can get it, and
it's not available for other theme groups.
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I know that a lot of prints are IP-specific, and I know that a lot of molds are
IP-specific, both due to licensing restrictions (can't let everyone use Darth
Vader helmets). For a while, the lightsaber hilt (but probably not the blade)
was one of these molds.
But again, what this sounded like was molds that were available for general use,
but restricting certain colors with that mold to either the Dimensions or
Brickheadz theme. Like everyone gets to use as many 1x1 quarter-round tiles
as they want, but only Brickheadz gets to make it in a few select colors.
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The case I was thinking of involved some of the dark green rounded elements for
They were classified as "licensed," at least initially.
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| | | | | Author: | littlepb | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2018 16:42 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, PurpleDave writes:
| | Recently someone on an AFOL blog posted a rather cryptic bombshell that Brickheadz
and Dimensions were allowed exclusive access to certain elements (part+color).
It didn't go into any real detail, asked that you not ask how the author
came to know this game-changing piece of information, and left it at that. When
the subject came up again in a way that didn't really support the original
claim, and I asked for clarification, my post was deleted, the original text
from the previous article was deleted, and the only explanation left labelled
the original claim both "contradictory" and an "insight". I don't expect
to get a clear answer there, so I'm asking here:
Does anyone know of any rule that Brickheadz (and before it Dimensions) can call
up elements that nobody else can use?
My understanding is that if you design a set that needs a Glow-in-the-Dark 2x4
brick, then as long as you've covered the cost of getting it into production
under your budget, any other set designer has access to that element for free,
basically. According to the original claim, it sounded like those two themes
could potentially bring a GitD 2x4 brick into existence, and every other theme
would be prohibited from using it.
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New Elementary just posted an interview with the Brickheadz design lead that
discussed new and recolored parts:
http://www.newelementary.com/2018/09/lego-brickheadz-marcos-bessa-interview_8.html
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1974 | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2018 10:25 | | Subject: | Re: Theme-exclusive elements? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, littlepb writes:
That's the blog Dave posted on but didn't mention by name 
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