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| | | Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Jun 26, 2018 21:40 | | Subject: | Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have here and I'm trying to verify and repair the inventory
and I have a question for someone who has done one of these. The inventory said
I would find a lot of undetermined pieces and once again I have been disappointed.
But I have found that several of the lots are mixed between the frosted and
polished versions. Should I say the set has 5 polished versions and 2 frosted
versions like someone carefully made it this way or should I say there are 7
polished ones with 7 frosted ones as an alternate?
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 26, 2018 21:53 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | I have here and I'm trying to verify and repair the inventory
and I have a question for someone who has done one of these.
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I haven't done one of these, but my take on it is that I see little need
to distinguish these frosted/non-frosted variations. Clikits was never that
popular and I believe these parts only came in Clikits sets, so little would
be lost if the A and B part versions were all merged.
| | The inventory said I would find a lot of undetermined pieces and once again I have been disappointed.
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You were only disappointed because you opened the set. If you had kept it sealed
all the parts would have remained undetermined.
| | But I have found that several of the lots are mixed between the frosted and
polished versions. Should I say the set has 5 polished versions and 2 frosted
versions like someone carefully made it this way or should I say there are 7
polished ones with 7 frosted ones as an alternate?
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Going back to my first point, I don't really want to fill up the Clikits
inventories with alternates. Maggie originally inventoried the set and, although
there is no source listed, I imagine it would have been sealed set contents.
Strictly speaking, though, yes. If the frosted/non-frosted variants are mixed
in sets, then the complete total for each part should be listed in the regular
section (meaning 7 for either the A or B variant) and the alternate section (7
for whatever the other variant is).
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 26, 2018 22:10 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | But I have found that several of the lots are mixed between the frosted and
polished versions. Should I say the set has 5 polished versions and 2 frosted
versions like someone carefully made it this way or should I say there are 7
polished ones with 7 frosted ones as an alternate?
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| | Strictly speaking, though, yes. If the frosted/non-frosted variants are mixed
in sets, then the complete total for each part should be listed in the regular
section (meaning 7 for either the A or B variant) and the alternate section (7
for whatever the other variant is).
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Let me correct that a bit. To be completely accurate, you should open several
new sets (say 5 of them) and check to see if the assortment of frosted/polished
parts varies. If it does, then my answer above is correct.
If the inclusion of frosted/polished parts is consistent across all the sets,
however, then the inventory would not have alternates. Instead, it would show
(as in your example) 5 polished and 2 frosted of the same part.
If your sealed set and Maggie's showed different quantities of frosted/polished
parts, then alternates is the way to go. However, we cannot know what Maggie's
set showed since the part listings weren't split until just 4 years ago.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | maggiec | | Posted: | Jun 26, 2018 22:15 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | However, we cannot know what Maggie's
set showed since the part listings weren't split until just 4 years ago.
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Yes. And also yes, inventory was from a sealed set. I believe I parted it out,
but if I find the parts around intact I'll check.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 26, 2018 22:22 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | Let me correct that a bit. To be completely accurate, you should open several
new sets (say 5 of them) and check to see if the assortment of frosted/polished
parts varies. If it does, then my answer above is correct.
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Most likely I'm not going to do that. I got a good deal on 1 and I will copy
down what I found and if they sell better than I expect them to, I might get
more, but this is likely my only step into Clikits, at least until my daughters
are older. So I will just leave the inventory alone if you wish.
However, on several of the lots I got all polished or all frosted. Should I
correct those?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 26, 2018 22:33 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | However, on several of the lots I got all polished or all frosted. Should I
correct those?
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Tell you what: just submit requests to correct whatever is wrong with this one
set and we'll discuss Clikits inventories and how they should look once you
submit the requests.
For now, since you don't have more than one copy of the same set, please
submit A as regular and the same quantity of B as alternate for parts that are
mixed. The photo is an example only using one of the undetermined parts from
that set.
For parts which are all the same, then yes, just submit changes as normal.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 10:08 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | You were only disappointed because you opened the set. If you had kept it sealed
all the parts would have remained undetermined.
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I feel like you are victim blaming here.
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| | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | I haven't done one of these, but my take on it is that I see little need
to distinguish these frosted/non-frosted variations. Clikits was never that
popular and I believe these parts only came in Clikits sets, so little would
be lost if the A and B part versions were all merged.
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If I remember correctly, for at least one of the parts a different color was
used for the frosted- and non-frosted versions. Since BrickLink does not differentiate
between these two LEGO colors, the part version is the only way to distinguish
these in our inventories.
I agree that these parts are unpopular, but I do not feel comfortable saying
that there is not much lost if both versions were all merged.
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | I have here and I'm trying to verify and repair the inventory
and I have a question for someone who has done one of these. The inventory said
I would find a lot of undetermined pieces and once again I have been disappointed.
But I have found that several of the lots are mixed between the frosted and
polished versions. Should I say the set has 5 polished versions and 2 frosted
versions like someone carefully made it this way or should I say there are 7
polished ones with 7 frosted ones as an alternate?
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I have added the two different versions of those Clikits parts to the catalog.
When the set inventories were made our catalog did not distinguish between those.
I would propose to simply update the inventory to what you find, replacing the
undetermined version with the two versions where needed. (I do not see why this
is disappointing, it is just the way the set was made). If anyone later finds
different quantities then those could always be included as alternatives.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 13:37 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, WoutR writes:
(I do not see why this
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It is disappointing because I am on a quest to find undetermined pieces. I buy
sets on purpose because the inventory says there are undetermined pieces in there.
But there are never any undetermined pieces in the box.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 14:00 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, WoutR writes:
(I do not see why this
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It is disappointing because I am on a quest to find undetermined pieces. I buy
sets on purpose because the inventory says there are undetermined pieces in there.
But there are never any undetermined pieces in the box.
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Isn't that the definition of "undetermined" in our catalog? It might be any
of two (or more) known versions of a part, but we do not know yet which are linked
to this specific inventory.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, WoutR writes:
(I do not see why this
| | is disappointing, it is just the way the set was made)
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It is disappointing because I am on a quest to find undetermined pieces. I buy
sets on purpose because the inventory says there are undetermined pieces in there.
But there are never any undetermined pieces in the box.
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Isn't that the definition of "undetermined" in our catalog? It might be any
of two (or more) known versions of a part, but we do not know yet which are linked
to this specific inventory.
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He is being facetious. 
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2018 14:46 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Inventories, WoutR writes:
(I do not see why this
| | is disappointing, it is just the way the set was made)
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It is disappointing because I am on a quest to find undetermined pieces. I buy
sets on purpose because the inventory says there are undetermined pieces in there.
But there are never any undetermined pieces in the box.
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Isn't that the definition of "undetermined" in our catalog? It might be any
of two (or more) known versions of a part, but we do not know yet which are linked
to this specific inventory.
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He is being facetious.
Randy
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I guess I am feeling too sick to make sense of that today 
Thanks.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 25, 2019 08:42 | | Subject: | Re: Verifying Clickits 7518 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | I have here and I'm trying to verify and repair the inventory
and I have a question for someone who has done one of these. The inventory said
I would find a lot of undetermined pieces and once again I have been disappointed.
But I have found that several of the lots are mixed between the frosted and
polished versions. Should I say the set has 5 polished versions and 2 frosted
versions like someone carefully made it this way or should I say there are 7
polished ones with 7 frosted ones as an alternate?
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I am talking to myself here, I know, but I'm talking with 18 months of experience
and much more Clikits knowledge. If I don't get around to getting a more
concrete answer from more sealed sets, I can at least answer one question more
definitively. After opening and inspecting sealed copies of almost every Clikits
set, I have never found a mixture of frosted and polished in the same color again.
Not once. So what I feared was going to be a normal slushy thing with Clikits,
I now believe is unique to this set.
Unfortunately, I cannot find that I made a record of the distribution I got the
first time. But when another 7518 is opened, I believe the inventory should
be changed to reflect exactly what is in that set rather than alternates.
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