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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 02:12
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 891-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 02:15
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 891-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

10000th inventory change request
 
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 02:16
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

10000th inventory change request
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 02:59
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 891-1
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

10000th inventory change request

Congratulations, SezaR! I always knew you were capable of this achievement.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 02:15
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 891-1
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I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.
In the lot, four space sets were included.
1)
 
Set No: 926  Name: Command Centre (Center)
* 
926-1 (Inv) Command Centre (Center)
147 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space
Including box (missing only 2 two blue bricks 2*2)
2)
 
Set No: 6841  Name: Mineral Detector
* 
6841-1 (Inv) Mineral Detector
33 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1980
Sets: Space: Classic Space
whose inventory includes two
 
Minifig No: sp005  Name: Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks
* 
sp005 (Inv) Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space
and two
 
Minifig No: sp006  Name: Classic Space - White with Air Tanks
* 
sp006 (Inv) Classic Space - White with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space
3)
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space
whose inventory includes one
 
Minifig No: sp006  Name: Classic Space - White with Air Tanks
* 
sp006 (Inv) Classic Space - White with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space
3)
 
Set No: 889  Name: Radar Truck
* 
889-1 (Inv) Radar Truck
20 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space
whose inventory includes one
 
Minifig No: sp005  Name: Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks
* 
sp005 (Inv) Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space

In the box of 926, all parts of these four sets were mixed (and no part from
other sets). Seven minifigs were included
Three
 
Minifig No: sp063  Name: Classic Space - White with Air Tanks, Stickered Torso Pattern
* 
sp063 (Inv) Classic Space - White with Air Tanks, Stickered Torso Pattern
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space
three
 
Minifig No: sp064  Name: Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks, Stickered Torso Pattern
* 
sp064 (Inv) Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks, Stickered Torso Pattern
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space
one
 
Minifig No: sp005  Name: Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks
* 
sp005 (Inv) Classic Space - Red with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space
.
So
two white sp063 and two red sp064 should come with 926
one white sp063 should come with 926 and
and
one white sp063 should come with 891.
I cannot say that if the last red sp064 comes with 6841 or 889.

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}
 Author: mockingbird View Messages Posted By mockingbird
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 03:17
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 891-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.

SNIP

Is it not a bit 'dangerous' to change set inventories based on a big
lot of used lego. Even if the sets seem to be complete and in good condition.

Such a change should only be made if the source of the existing inventory is
not a sealed set.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 04:32
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I don't call it a big lot of used sets. It is the following item
173205892929
I am amazed how all sets were neat and complete in their boxes. Only the small
space sets missed their boxes.
More interesting is that there was a letter inside the set 7725 which was the
answer of a Lego sale manager concerning the set 7725 and how to use transformer.
The owner was overly organized.
The older train 171 may not have come from the same buyer. The seller of this
item received donation to sell and spend for the charity.

On the other hand, I had seen this stickerred torso in various websites. One
of them is even in the inventory of
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sp064#T=P

Unfortunately, most AFOL consider bricklink as the ultimate source and all that
is true about inventories. IT is really not. One commnet:
"Looking at bricklink it seems they were only used in 1978. They don't seem
too uncommon though, there are a few for sale on bricklink."

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/25056-classic-space-minifig-with-sticker/

Having worked with inventory of vintage trains from 70-80, I am 100% sure non
of them were inventories based on a sealed set rather they were inventoried by
checking the instructions. All mistakes I see come from instructions. Whenever
something is missing is because it is not present in its instructions or on the
box
I don't know about stickerred minifigs and I don't know if the space
sets were inventoried the same way as train sets.
Hopefully some collector see this post and write an anwser.
Some people discussed it here
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1054822

I had forgotten to attach my photos.


In Inventories Requests, mockingbird writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.

SNIP

Is it not a bit 'dangerous' to change set inventories based on a big
lot of used lego. Even if the sets seem to be complete and in good condition.

Such a change should only be made if the source of the existing inventory is
not a sealed set.
 










 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 08:13
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I don't call it a big lot of used sets. It is the following item
173205892929
I am amazed how all sets were neat and complete in their boxes. Only the small
space sets missed their boxes.
More interesting is that there was a letter inside the set 7725 which was the
answer of a Lego sale manager concerning the set 7725 and how to use transformer.
The owner was overly organized.
The older train 171 may not have come from the same buyer. The seller of this
item received donation to sell and spend for the charity.

On the other hand, I had seen this stickerred torso in various websites. One
of them is even in the inventory of
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sp064#T=P

Unfortunately, most AFOL consider bricklink as the ultimate source and all that
is true about inventories. IT is really not. One commnet:
"Looking at bricklink it seems they were only used in 1978. They don't seem
too uncommon though, there are a few for sale on bricklink."

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/25056-classic-space-minifig-with-sticker/

Having worked with inventory of vintage trains from 70-80, I am 100% sure non
of them were inventories based on a sealed set rather they were inventoried by
checking the instructions. All mistakes I see come from instructions. Whenever
something is missing is because it is not present in its instructions or on the
box
I don't know about stickerred minifigs and I don't know if the space
sets were inventoried the same way as train sets.
Hopefully some collector see this post and write an anwser.
Some people discussed it here
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1054822

I had forgotten to attach my photos.


In Inventories Requests, mockingbird writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.

SNIP

Is it not a bit 'dangerous' to change set inventories based on a big
lot of used lego. Even if the sets seem to be complete and in good condition.

Such a change should only be made if the source of the existing inventory is
not a sealed set.

Hi

Set 889 came with the stickered torso/minifig. Got this as my 2nd set when I
was 5-6y old.

Later they changed the Space minfigs and all came with printed torso.


Stefaan
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 20, 2018 00:29
 Subject: Re: ICR for Set 891-1 - Approved
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

I've approved these requests as a test run to see how well it goes. I've
also moved things around a little and added an inventory note. The sticker sheet
is pending catalog approval:

 
Part No: 891stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 891 - (199013)
* 
891stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 891 - (199013)
Parts: Sticker Sheet

Feedback is always welcome from anyone interested in providing it.
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 Posted: Apr 20, 2018 00:48
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

  Feedback is always welcome from anyone interested in providing it.

The other way we could go is to include the printed figure as regular since it
was unquestionably much more common and the sticker sheet/plain torso figure
as alternate.

I can configure the inventory however members would prefer it.
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

I've approved these requests as a test run to see how well it goes. I've
also moved things around a little and added an inventory note. The sticker sheet
is pending catalog approval:

 
Part No: 891stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 891 - (199013)
* 
891stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 891 - (199013)
Parts: Sticker Sheet

Feedback is always welcome from anyone interested in providing it.

YES that's it!
Thanks!
 Author: Jan_K View Messages Posted By Jan_K
 Posted: Apr 20, 2018 03:38
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:

   Feedback is always welcome from anyone interested in providing it.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=891-1

Very well done, I like it this way!

The older version, even if rare compared to the later one, should definitely
be the regular item (minifig in this case) just as you've made it.

to the site admins: Any note at the bottom of an inventory should be much more
prominent - these notes are being overlookedway too often (many cases in Forum
threads in the past).
I would like a red banner at the top of an inventory:
"IMPORTANT: Please see the inventory note at the bottom of this page"

Jan

P.S.: the image of the trans-red (and trans-yellow, trans-dark blue, trans-black)
1x1 plates 3024 should definitely be replaced by a photo (or a different drawing
like most of the other trans-colours), IMHO:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3024&idColor=17
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp?itemType=P&itemNo=3024&v=2
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Inventories Requests, Jan_K writes:
  The older version, even if rare compared to the later one, should definitely
be the regular item (minifig in this case) just as you've made it.

I've just updated the relevant Help page to address this issue:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

  to the site admins: Any note at the bottom of an inventory should be much more
prominent - these notes are being overlookedway too often (many cases in Forum
threads in the past).
I would like a red banner at the top of an inventory:
"IMPORTANT: Please see the inventory note at the bottom of this page"

I agree that they're being overlooked far too frequently. I would like to
see them moved to the top of the page. I asked and was told this would be considered
after some other improvements had been made.
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In general, the first variation should be regular as we don't know which
variation was used more. In this case, we know the answer. I think when one variation
is used less than 5% of all releases,, it should not be listed as regular. However,
one can add a note and explain this.
In general, we should add more notes and explain the difference between variations
and like, "the part XXXa appeared in all releases in 1979 but then it was replaced
by XXXb since early 1980".


In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

I've approved these requests as a test run to see how well it goes. I've
also moved things around a little and added an inventory note. The sticker sheet
is pending catalog approval:

 
Part No: 891stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 891 - (199013)
* 
891stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 891 - (199013)
Parts: Sticker Sheet

Feedback is always welcome from anyone interested in providing it.