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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 11, 2018 03:19
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 970089-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 970089  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
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970089-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifig
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

* Delete 2 Part 4032b Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Delete 2 Part 4032b White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Add 2 Part 4032 White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* Add 2 Part 4032 Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 11, 2018 03:53
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 970089-1
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 970089  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
* 
970089-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifig
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

* Delete 2 Part 4032b Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Delete 2 Part 4032b White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Add 2 Part 4032 White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* Add 2 Part 4032 Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole

These are rather complicated requests. First, although this set doesn't
have a year of release, the correct year of release is very likely 1998 to coincide
with the release of this set:

 
Set No: 9725  Name: ROBOLAB Amusement Park Set (1998 Version)
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9725-1 (Inv) ROBOLAB Amusement Park Set (1998 Version)
284 Parts, 5 Minifigs, 2 Books, 4 Gear, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Mindstorms: RCX

This surmise is an educated guess based on my knowledge of Educational/Dacta
items. If true, then it would have been years before 4032b with the X opening
began to appear. The special elements set, BTW, is a rare set for which little
other evidence is available. The current inventory has no source.

There is a second set with identical contents which was released in 2002:

 
Set No: 970672  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
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970672-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifig, 2002
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

This is exactly the same set with a different item number. This is not uncommon
and I believe the catalog has a couple handfuls of duplicate E&D entries due
to different item numbers being used for the same items (this happened fairly
frequently for E&D sets). In other words, this is likely the exactly the same
set which had been around since 1998.

The X opening appears in this set, but the source is parts list. This set is
the earliest instance of the X opening 4032 on BrickLink along with this set:

 
Set No: 9649  Name: Technology Resource Set
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9649-1 (Inv) Technology Resource Set
1146 Parts, 2 Gear, 2002
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Technic

However, for 9649-1, the X opening appears as an alternate and was added along
with bluish gray parts - a clear indication that the set used for the changes
came from 2004 or later. Considering all of the above, I believe that the X
opening did not first appear until 2003.

Regardless of all that, though, the X opening 4032 is a far less common variant
which should not have been added to this set inventory without having been confirmed
with an actual set.

However, these requests are essentially based on conjecture and not facts, so
I will leave them open for a few days to give people the opportunity to comment/object
(and I'm certainly not above having my own requests rejected or rejecting
them myself).