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 Author: CrazyChris View Messages Posted By CrazyChris
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 08:36
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7865-1
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CrazyChris (213)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7865  Name: 12V Motor
* 
7865-1 (Inv) 12V Motor
19 Parts, 1980
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 12V

* Add 2 Part x461b Black Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces, Interior Grooves (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
Inconsistency among sets.

x461b is the newer part, x461 the older one (because x461b exists only in red and appeared not before 1983 in 7727).

x461b is listed as alternate part in two short-produced sets 7730 and 7750. So, it must also be an alternate part for this set 7865, which was produced from 1980 to 1990.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 09:01
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7865-1
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See the following video, 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZerlAmsCM0&t=281s

On 4:31 we can read 42 81 meaning 42th week of 1981. This proves that the part
x461b was first released about the end of 1981 and since then, the part x461
was not released anymore.

In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7865  Name: 12V Motor
* 
7865-1 (Inv) 12V Motor
19 Parts, 1980
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 12V

* Add 2 Part x461b Black Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces, Interior Grooves (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
Inconsistency among sets.

x461b is the newer part, x461 the older one (because x461b exists only in red and appeared not before 1983 in 7727).

x461b is listed as alternate part in two short-produced sets 7730 and 7750. So, it must also be an alternate part for this set 7865, which was produced from 1980 to 1990.
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 11:11
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7865-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  See the following video, 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZerlAmsCM0&t=281s

On 4:31 we can read 42 81 meaning 42th week of 1981. This proves that the part
x461b was first released about the end of 1981 and since then, the part x461
was not released anymore.

In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7865  Name: 12V Motor
* 
7865-1 (Inv) 12V Motor
19 Parts, 1980
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 12V

* Add 2 Part x461b Black Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces, Interior Grooves (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
Inconsistency among sets.

x461b is the newer part, x461 the older one (because x461b exists only in red and appeared not before 1983 in 7727).

x461b is listed as alternate part in two short-produced sets 7730 and 7750. So, it must also be an alternate part for this set 7865, which was produced from 1980 to 1990.

Hi

That is correct.
I did the inv. on Aug 7, 2004. At that time was only the x461
 
Part No: x461  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces
* 
x461 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces
Parts: Plate, Modified
in the
catalog. Part x461b
 
Part No: x461b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces, Interior Grooves
* 
x461b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces, Interior Grooves
Parts: Plate, Modified
came in on Febr. 1st 2007.
The inv. I did was from an MIB set. That's why there were no extra rims in.
It was the newer type motor (30 9).
Original picture from that time... we had no high resolution pictures at that
time


Stefaan
 
 Author: CrazyChris View Messages Posted By CrazyChris
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 09:06
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7865-1
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In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:

  x461b is the newer part, x461 the older one (because x461b exists only in red and appeared not before 1983 in 7727).

Self-correction to avoid confusing: x461b exists in both colors, x461 exists
only in black.
Therefore, x461b must be the newer part, because the black ones x461 already
appeared in 1980s sets.