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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Red {27c01 Window 1 x 2 x 1 with Glass to 27 Window 1 x 2 x 1}
* Change 2 Part Yellow {27c01 Window 1 x 2 x 1 with Glass to 27 Window 1 x 2 x 1}
Comments from Submitter:
The instructions shows no glass on yellow window
http://www.peeron.com/scans/180-1/5/
The instructions should have had mistakes and is confusing.
It is not clear from instructions whether there is a glass on the other yellow window 27c01 and on the red one:
http://www.peeron.com/scans/180-1/9/
http://www.peeron.com/scans/180-1/11/
The yellow window 29 doesn't have glass but on instructions there is a glass!
http://www.peeron.com/scans/180-1/5/
Anybody having the original set can help on this matter.
Since the small windows such as 4 and 29 doesn't have a glass, I think there should not be any glass on 27c01 neither so changing them to 27.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2018 20:11 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | The instructions should have had mistakes and is confusing.
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I'd like to offer a suggestion on these 1980s train set inventories.
I think everyone involved has agreed that the inventories of these sets need
work. However, for these specific sets I don't feel that spreading the work
out with occasional requests here and there is the best way to go about things.
I think a much clearer picture could be obtained by looking at all the part variants
and set inventories at the same time and then making wholesale changes to all
the inventories once the entire picture is clear. This is an in-depth and complicated
research project which could take 6 months or longer to do properly, but I
know from the list one of your associates sent me that you guys have already
begun work on this. Also, new catalog entries will likely need to be created
to account for findings.
Therefore, my suggestion is to gather data from as many reliable sources as possible
(catalogs, instructions, sealed sets, etc.) and take however long you need to
take to do this. There are plenty of train collectors here on BrickLink and
in other online communities who will be willing to help you with this. When
you have completed your project, submit a single request for each set which corrects
all the known errors within that set's inventory and which provides all the
evidence you have discovered.
If necessary, the entire set inventory can be deleted and we can start over.
I don't like to do this and probably would only do it in exceptional cases,
but it is an option.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2018 20:16 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | I think a much clearer picture could be obtained by looking at all the part variants
and set inventories at the same time and then making wholesale changes to all
the inventories once the entire picture is clear.
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Let me say also that this opinion is based on experience. I spent a couple of
years working on Dacta/Education sets and there were things about these sets
I didn't fully understand until late in the game. I could have done better
work if I had waited until I had a fuller understanding of these sets before
starting to submit changes for them. Even now, I'm sure there are errors
in the way these sets are cataloged and inventoried which I am responsible for.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2018 20:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| For 4.5V trains, the sets 180 and 183 are more rare than 181 and 182. The set
180 is the rarest. On the top of that, they are not much collectible.
But your suggestion is reseanable.
For 7730 and other 12V trains, there are not many mistakes or alternate items
to be added. Did you include 12V trains in your suggestion?
In my opinion, your suggestion does not need to include 12V trains.
The main matter for 12V trains are the motor. If we don't distinguish type
2 and 3, it is pretty easy and I think we can correct them fast. If we distinguish
type 2 and 3, then more work is required. But it is not that hard.
Some 12V train fans, and me, think we should distinguish types 2 and 3 motors
(both named bb12Vb on BL)
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | I think a much clearer picture could be obtained by looking at all the part variants
and set inventories at the same time and then making wholesale changes to all
the inventories once the entire picture is clear.
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Let me say also that this opinion is based on experience. I spent a couple of
years working on Dacta/Education sets and there were things about these sets
I didn't fully understand until late in the game. I could have done better
work if I had waited until I had a fuller understanding of these sets before
starting to submit changes for them. Even now, I'm sure there are errors
in the way these sets are cataloged and inventoried which I am responsible for.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2018 20:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Did you include 12V trains in your suggestion?
In my opinion, your suggestion does not need to include 12V trains.
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| | The main matter for 12V trains are the motor. If we don't distinguish type
2 and 3, it is pretty easy and I think we can correct them fast. If we distinguish
type 2 and 3, then more work is required. But it is not that hard.
Some 12V train fans, and me, think we should distinguish types 2 and 3 motors
(both named bb12Vb on BL)
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I recommend that any catalog work necessary on motors is completed before changing
existing inventories. If you feel like variations should be further distinguished,
then submit a new catalog entry or entries for the part/s and see if the catalog
administrators agree with you.
If the motors are the only issue with 12V trains, then I agree that we should
be able to get those corrected quickly. My question is if you're sure the
motors actually are the only issue.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2018 21:21 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| The issues are:
12v motors
4180c01 and variants: brick with train wheels has alternates
7730: yellow cones, white 1*2*1 windows
There may be other minor variants of few parts for supplemental sets such as
7867,... All I know to be checked is the white light bricks 08010ac01 and its
variant.
Considering gathering evidence, I have already contacted many sellers of 7730
on Ebay,... for yellow cones. They all had the train since childhood and didn't
switch the 3 yellow cones (the other variant 3943b is rare too)
Is this considered a good type of evidence then?
Another one:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126328592@N03/21624886636
Two trains came with 3943b.
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Did you include 12V trains in your suggestion?
In my opinion, your suggestion does not need to include 12V trains.
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| | The main matter for 12V trains are the motor. If we don't distinguish type
2 and 3, it is pretty easy and I think we can correct them fast. If we distinguish
type 2 and 3, then more work is required. But it is not that hard.
Some 12V train fans, and me, think we should distinguish types 2 and 3 motors
(both named bb12Vb on BL)
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I recommend that any catalog work necessary on motors is completed before changing
existing inventories. If you feel like variations should be further distinguished,
then submit a new catalog entry or entries for the part/s and see if the catalog
administrators agree with you.
If the motors are the only issue with 12V trains, then I agree that we should
be able to get those corrected quickly. My question is if you're sure the
motors actually are the only issue.
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| | | | | | | Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2018 16:51 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Hi Stormchaser,
this is exactly what I already offered in the 7730 discussions thread:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1065172
I sent a mail with the huge excel sheet to two BL inventory admins, but never
got any response.
Of course, I may send the file to you again, please contact me by E-Mail.
kind regards, Christian
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| In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
| | this is exactly what I already offered in the 7730 discussions thread:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1065172
I sent a mail with the huge excel sheet to two BL inventory admins, but never
got any response.
Of course, I may send the file to you again, please contact me by E-Mail.
kind regards, Christian
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Yes, I got your document. So let's say I go in and align every train inventory
to exactly match your document. The first problem with that is that any changes
I make directly to sets are not publicly posted. Inventory change requests are
posted here in the forum.
The second problem is this: imagine that five years from now another group comes
along and sends whomever is the inventory administrator at the time a new document
which shows that all the current inventories are wrong. The new administrator
believes that group and changes all the work you and I did (which is essentially
what you and I would be doing to the people who've already worked on building
and changing these inventories over the years).
The problem here is that you provide no sources in your document, so I'm
just taking your word on all this. While I don't doubt your good intentions,
I hope you can understand why requests for changes to these older inventories
need some kind of evidence to support them.
Additionally, because these inventories aren't familiar to me, I'd prefer
you or SezaR to gather all your information together and submit one group of
requests for each set at the same time which include everything in the inventory
of each set which need to be changed (including sources). This will allow me
to see the larger picture of all the changes which are being requested.
By the way, both of you say that new parts or variants of existing parts still
need to be added to the catalog. These parts should be added before any changes
are done to inventories.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2018 23:09 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| You are right.
We are 4 working on this. I prefer now the work to be slow, because I don't
have time and because this is a lot of work.
It surprises me that many people, actually many 12V train lovers have been using
bricklink inventories, sell their parts,... but haven't tried to improve
things here.
In my opinion, bricklink should have "perfect" information for these popular
sets.
We will work on bringing all evidences we can such as:
- Ebay or other auctions can give good hints
- photos of sealed sets available, however for some sets it is hard to find one.
For some sets there is a rare variant that we cannot find easily
- photos of sets collectors have: those who bought the trains in 80s not after
second-hand
We will provide a complete document for all parts including photos, and all information
we need to know.
Since the boxes have also language variances and even inner box variances, we
will provide that also, including the years we believe they were released.
For many of these changes our proofs can be:
- photos of sealed sets
- reasoning such as the part "lablablab" was only produced between 1980-1982
(because...) so...
- good lots can also give good evidence: those lots we are almost sure were taken
out directly from loft for sale after 25 years.
I don't think we can do better than this as we are far removed from the time
these trains were available.
Hopefully this document will be available so that if some people want to make
changes in 5 years, they can see what was done and why.
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
| | this is exactly what I already offered in the 7730 discussions thread:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1065172
I sent a mail with the huge excel sheet to two BL inventory admins, but never
got any response.
Of course, I may send the file to you again, please contact me by E-Mail.
kind regards, Christian
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Yes, I got your document. So let's say I go in and align every train inventory
to exactly match your document. The first problem with that is that any changes
I make directly to sets are not publicly posted. Inventory change requests are
posted here in the forum.
The second problem is this: imagine that five years from now another group comes
along and sends whomever is the inventory administrator at the time a new document
which shows that all the current inventories are wrong. The new administrator
believes that group and changes all the work you and I did (which is essentially
what you and I would be doing to the people who've already worked on building
and changing these inventories over the years).
The problem here is that you provide no sources in your document, so I'm
just taking your word on all this. While I don't doubt your good intentions,
I hope you can understand why requests for changes to these older inventories
need some kind of evidence to support them.
Additionally, because these inventories aren't familiar to me, I'd prefer
you or SezaR to gather all your information together and submit one group of
requests for each set at the same time which include everything in the inventory
of each set which need to be changed (including sources). This will allow me
to see the larger picture of all the changes which are being requested.
By the way, both of you say that new parts or variants of existing parts still
need to be added to the catalog. These parts should be added before any changes
are done to inventories.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2018 03:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | The problem here is that you provide no sources in your document, so I'm
just taking your word on all this. While I don't doubt your good intentions,
I hope you can understand why requests for changes to these older inventories
need some kind of evidence to support them.
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Well, this is just a matter of „how to display“.
I have ecidences, and lots od hints.
Bur it is impossible to include this into the document.
Instead, I wrote a text that adeesses all this. But this text is very long an
written in german.
And I am wondering, why you didn‘t ask for this by E-Mail?
For me, it looked like as if there was no interest from your side.
| | By the way, both of you say that new parts or variants of existing parts still
need to be added to the catalog. These parts should be added before any changes
are done to inventories.
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Well, this is something you could prepare by reading the table.
The additional motor variant is well known, I don‘t think that an evidence is
needed.
The missing variants of the conducting rails - I can provide pictures.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 03:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
| | Well, this is just a matter of „how to display“.
I have ecidences, and lots od hints.
Bur it is impossible to include this into the document.
Instead, I wrote a text that adeesses all this. But this text is very long an
written in german.
And I am wondering, why you didn‘t ask for this by E-Mail?
For me, it looked like as if there was no interest from your side.
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I didn't ask for it because I feel like these changes should be made using
the inventory change request form.
And yes, I am always interested in making sure inventories are correct and complete.
I would like the process of getting them that way to be done properly, though.
| | The additional motor variant is well known, I don‘t think that an evidence is
needed.
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The motor variant is not well known to me. I wasn't even alive when some
of these train sets were released, which is one reason I'm asking to have
documentation for all these changes being requested.
| | The missing variants of the conducting rails - I can provide pictures.
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These should be submitted to the catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp
Then pictures can be added here:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 05:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Well, I just had the hope that a comprehensive document and questions/answers
would simplify things (in case that there is REAl interest from BL side). Not
1000 single steps, but 1 big (and efficient) step that is done by you.
The inv change request form and the other forms for adding new parts, I don't
get along with them, they are just too complicated (for me).
So, everything will stay as it is (missing part variants, wrong inventories,
etc...).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
| | Well, I just had the hope that a comprehensive document and questions/answers
would simplify things (in case that there is REAl interest from BL side). Not
1000 single steps, but 1 big (and efficient) step that is done by you.
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Those 1,000 steps must still be done, whether they're done by me or someone
else. There is no magic button anyone can push to make everything happen and
every single change must be entered one at a time.
The critically important things about inventory change requests are (a) they
create a permanent record of the reasons for the change, and (b) they offer the
BrickLink community the opportunity to comment on or object to the changes being
made.
| | The inv change request form and the other forms for adding new parts, I don't
get along with them, they are just too complicated (for me).
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Older train inventories are complicated, too, but I have put forth the effort
to study them enough to be able to understand the change requests. In fact,
I just approved several of SezaR's requests to update the motors. If I am
willing to learn new things about older inventories, then surely it's not
too much to ask that someone learn how to use a submission form.
| | So, everything will stay as it is (missing part variants, wrong inventories,
etc...).
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I hope that you are able to move beyond this way of looking at things.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 07:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I think CrazyChris was expecting more communication from your and other admins'
side. He has put a lot, really a lot of efforts to prepare that documentation.
But you didn't reply to his email.
Considering my request to add 3943b to the set 7730, I felt a little bit the
same because you DID not give me a reason for which I could have been wrong,
but only said that my reqeust was deeply discussed and I might be wrong. If I
know better what or how you think about it, I may be able to come up with a better
reason, proof,... in the absence of a sealed 7730.
However I understand that you may be really busy and working on vintage sets
is hard and time-consuming.
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
| | Well, I just had the hope that a comprehensive document and questions/answers
would simplify things (in case that there is REAl interest from BL side). Not
1000 single steps, but 1 big (and efficient) step that is done by you.
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Those 1,000 steps must still be done, whether they're done by me or someone
else. There is no magic button anyone can push to make everything happen and
every single change must be entered one at a time.
The critically important things about inventory change requests are (a) they
create a permanent record of the reasons for the change, and (b) they offer the
BrickLink community the opportunity to comment on or object to the changes being
made.
| | The inv change request form and the other forms for adding new parts, I don't
get along with them, they are just too complicated (for me).
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Older train inventories are complicated, too, but I have put forth the effort
to study them enough to be able to understand the change requests. In fact,
I just approved several of SezaR's requests to update the motors. If I am
willing to learn new things about older inventories, then surely it's not
too much to ask that someone learn how to use a submission form.
| | So, everything will stay as it is (missing part variants, wrong inventories,
etc...).
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I hope that you are able to move beyond this way of looking at things.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I understand your point of view. But I really would appreciate, if you try to
understand my point of view, too:
1. The Excel file
I did not do this on my own. Instead, it is the result of hours of work, and
many E-Mails from and to other collectors.
When I sent the file to you, this was NOT a request. It was an offer to you,
an offer to Bricklink.
I waited for response. For questions, for a proposal of how to continue, for
any sign of interest.
But there was no response.
I don't say that the file is final or error-free. But it is a base to start
a discussion from - a better base than the current state of BL's inventories.
I am thinking about to upload the file to my FTP, and the provide the link here,
to spark a discussion. Does this comply with BL rules?
2. Quality
As I said before, I won't fill any ICRs or related. This is NOT because
of laziness. The main reason for my choice is: to ensure quality. For me, dealing
with the ICRs forms (and related) is like tumbling through a dungeon while blindfolded.
It is complex and hard to understand, I am not sure what I am doing. There is
a high risk of making mistakes (and therefore being rejected).
I don't want to make mistakes, I want to achieve a result with high quality.
3. Consistency among sets
Right now, BL inventories of the train sets show many inconsistencies. The reason
is obvious: many sets were treated as their own, and not as part of a group of
affected sets. The ICR process doesn't allow to handle things like "set group
consistency" (if it does, I haven't found it yet). Every affected set needs
to be treated in the same way, imho this is a very essential requirement in this
train topic. If the technical implementation doesn't help us, we need a workaround
to cover this requirement. Therefore, the changes should be done by the experienced
hands of a single admin person, and not by the users.
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| In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:
| | I understand your point of view. But I really would appreciate, if you try to
understand my point of view, too:
1. The Excel file
I did not do this on my own. Instead, it is the result of hours of work, and
many E-Mails from and to other collectors.
When I sent the file to you, this was NOT a request. It was an offer to you,
an offer to Bricklink.
I waited for response. For questions, for a proposal of how to continue, for
any sign of interest.
But there was no response.
I don't say that the file is final or error-free. But it is a base to start
a discussion from - a better base than the current state of BL's inventories.
I am thinking about to upload the file to my FTP, and the provide the link here,
to spark a discussion. Does this comply with BL rules?
2. Quality
As I said before, I won't fill any ICRs or related. This is NOT because
of laziness. The main reason for my choice is: to ensure quality. For me, dealing
with the ICRs forms (and related) is like tumbling through a dungeon while blindfolded.
It is complex and hard to understand, I am not sure what I am doing. There is
a high risk of making mistakes (and therefore being rejected).
I don't want to make mistakes, I want to achieve a result with high quality.
3. Consistency among sets
Right now, BL inventories of the train sets show many inconsistencies. The reason
is obvious: many sets were treated as their own, and not as part of a group of
affected sets. The ICR process doesn't allow to handle things like "set group
consistency" (if it does, I haven't found it yet). Every affected set needs
to be treated in the same way, imho this is a very essential requirement in this
train topic. If the technical implementation doesn't help us, we need a workaround
to cover this requirement. Therefore, the changes should be done by the experienced
hands of a single admin person, and not by the users.
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Hi Chris,
We were in communication about these early train inventories before I was hired,
and I apologize that things have taken so long to get processed. It's taken
a long time to settle in here, and there have been a lot of critical things that
have taken up my attention since then.
12V trains are important to us at BrickLink and we really want to get the inventories
right. In order to fix many of these problems the right way, new catalog entries
(accompanied by good photos) will need to be approved, and for vintage parts
like this, sometimes it takes a while.
Please have patience with the process. We do want to have documentation on record
so that others will not so easily tamper with the inventories later on.
Russell
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| Thank you for these words.
However, what are the next steps from your side?
Is it okay if I upload the file to my FTP and post the link here?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2018 03:55 | | Subject: | Re: Sample pictures | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| here are some example pictures
conducting rails
type 1
no holes on the sides
no supports under the contacts
type 2
holes on the sides
no supports under the contacts
type 3
holes on the sides
with supports under the contacts
notches at the bottom of the metal parts
type 4
no holes on the sides
with supports under the contacts
notches at the bottom of the metal parts
remote switches
type 1
with metal rings
no notch at the bottom of the housing
type 2
no metal ring
with notch at the bottom of the housing
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 07:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In this request, I only tried to initiate a conversation so that other collectors
comment here. Next time I will do this in forum in helps, or other topics.
I have no idea yet if this request shoubl be approved or rejected.
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | The instructions should have had mistakes and is confusing.
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I'd like to offer a suggestion on these 1980s train set inventories.
I think everyone involved has agreed that the inventories of these sets need
work. However, for these specific sets I don't feel that spreading the work
out with occasional requests here and there is the best way to go about things.
I think a much clearer picture could be obtained by looking at all the part variants
and set inventories at the same time and then making wholesale changes to all
the inventories once the entire picture is clear. This is an in-depth and complicated
research project which could take 6 months or longer to do properly, but I
know from the list one of your associates sent me that you guys have already
begun work on this. Also, new catalog entries will likely need to be created
to account for findings.
Therefore, my suggestion is to gather data from as many reliable sources as possible
(catalogs, instructions, sealed sets, etc.) and take however long you need to
take to do this. There are plenty of train collectors here on BrickLink and
in other online communities who will be willing to help you with this. When
you have completed your project, submit a single request for each set which corrects
all the known errors within that set's inventory and which provides all the
evidence you have discovered.
If necessary, the entire set inventory can be deleted and we can start over.
I don't like to do this and probably would only do it in exceptional cases,
but it is an option.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2018 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 180-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In this request, I only tried to initiate a conversation so that other collectors
comment here. Next time I will do this in forum in helps, or other topics.
I have no idea yet if this request shoubl be approved or rejected.
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This particular thread can still be used for that purpose, but the requested
changes have not been approved for now. If you have solid evidence at some later
point, please resubmit them.
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