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 Author: TomHop View Messages Posted By TomHop
 Posted: Jul 6, 2015 06:30
 Subject: search including parts in a part or in a set
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TomHop (1723)

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After a brief search I could not find anything on the following, so there goes
my first post.

Sometimes I have parts like a hinge plate 1 x 2 with 1 finger (the old hinges)
on my wanted list.
This can be found
- as such , just this part
- in a parts assembly (together with the 2 finger hinge plate)
- in a set

If I search for any directly I can find them, no problem.
Nevertheless an option like "include part assembly in search" and/or "include
sets in search" would save me doing 3 different searches, besides possibly adding
all possible combinations to my wanted lists (risking missing out on a good purchase
or duplicating parts).

I would expect an option like this in the wanted list, (search and shop options),
shop search and catalog search for example.

To avoid massive search results ( if you have big wanted lists and/or very common
parts on the wanted list) a tickbox could be added at wanted list item level:
to indicate whether you want this to be eligable for the above options or not.

I am looking for feedback on the idea. Did I simply mis an option that I can
use? How can I propose it to the administrators?

Thanks for reading and feedback is really apreciated
Best regards,
Tom
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 6, 2015 11:33
 Subject: Re: search including parts in a part or in a set
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In Searching, TomHop writes:
  After a brief search I could not find anything on the following, so there goes
my first post.

Sometimes I have parts like a hinge plate 1 x 2 with 1 finger (the old hinges)
on my wanted list.
This can be found
- as such , just this part
- in a parts assembly (together with the 2 finger hinge plate)
- in a set

If I search for any directly I can find them, no problem.
Nevertheless an option like "include part assembly in search" and/or "include
sets in search" would save me doing 3 different searches, besides possibly adding
all possible combinations to my wanted lists (risking missing out on a good purchase
or duplicating parts).

I would expect an option like this in the wanted list, (search and shop options),
shop search and catalog search for example.

To avoid massive search results ( if you have big wanted lists and/or very common
parts on the wanted list) a tickbox could be added at wanted list item level:
to indicate whether you want this to be eligable for the above options or not.

I am looking for feedback on the idea. Did I simply mis an option that I can
use? How can I propose it to the administrators?

Thanks for reading and feedback is really apreciated
Best regards,
Tom

The idea is good; how to implement it would be another. As you said, for a simple
part as a half hinge, you already have to add at least 3 items to your search.
Consider the search for a specific torso. You would have to look for the torso
with and without arms, possibly in different colors, appearing in minifigs, appearing
in sets. And then someone just happens to search for a yellow hand...

Actually I have implemented this search strategy to build my own wanted list
in Excel, but it soon grew into a 100 MB project that I could barely manage.
Every incoming box I now open is full of surprise minifigs and sets that I didn't
even think of to order - but indeed contain some valuable hair, head, torso,
hand or legs that I required.

To implement this in the Bricklink wanted list system, let alone in the search
system, would make the system (my guess) two or three times heavier in database
load.
I'd like it implemented, but don't believe it feasable on short notice.

Hans-Peter
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Jul 6, 2015 18:34
 Subject: Re: search including parts in a part or in a set
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In Suggestions, TomHop writes:
  After a brief search I could not find anything on the following, so there goes
my first post.

Sometimes I have parts like a hinge plate 1 x 2 with 1 finger (the old hinges)
on my wanted list.
This can be found
- as such , just this part
- in a parts assembly (together with the 2 finger hinge plate)
- in a set

If I search for any directly I can find them, no problem.
Nevertheless an option like "include part assembly in search" and/or "include
sets in search" would save me doing 3 different searches, besides possibly adding
all possible combinations to my wanted lists (risking missing out on a good purchase
or duplicating parts).

I would expect an option like this in the wanted list, (search and shop options),
shop search and catalog search for example.

To avoid massive search results ( if you have big wanted lists and/or very common
parts on the wanted list) a tickbox could be added at wanted list item level:
to indicate whether you want this to be eligable for the above options or not.

I am looking for feedback on the idea. Did I simply mis an option that I can
use? How can I propose it to the administrators?

Thanks for reading and feedback is really apreciated
Best regards,
Tom

I don't believe there is a way to simultaneously search part and set inventories
- one at a time, yes, but not all at once.

But have you checked out the preview of the new search function at http://preview.bricklink.com
? The developers of the site are thinking along the same lines as you and the
new default search type will be "All Items." Results will be displayed from all
categories (Parts, Sets, Custom, etc) on one page with tabs to filter the types.

As it is, this still does not search inventories simultaneously - if you use
it to search for "hinge" you will get hinge parts and some complete assemblies
(as long as the item names include the word "hinge") but the only set you get
is one that has the word "hinge" in the title, not sets with hinges in their
inventories.

I think it would be possible to create a search function like you describe, and
I think it would fit well within the proposed new search function.
 Author: PurpleDave View Messages Posted By PurpleDave
 Posted: Jul 6, 2015 19:25
 Subject: Re: search including parts in a part or in a set
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In Suggestions, TomHop writes:
  After a brief search I could not find anything on the following, so there goes
my first post.

Sometimes I have parts like a hinge plate 1 x 2 with 1 finger (the old hinges)
on my wanted list.
This can be found
- as such , just this part
- in a parts assembly (together with the 2 finger hinge plate)
- in a set

If I search for any directly I can find them, no problem.
Nevertheless an option like "include part assembly in search" and/or "include
sets in search" would save me doing 3 different searches, besides possibly adding
all possible combinations to my wanted lists (risking missing out on a good purchase
or duplicating parts).

A year ago at the Brickworld roundtable I actually requested this. If I'm
searching for green minifig hands, give me results for any minifig with green
hands. And especially give me those results when I run a Query, since that may
mean the difference between a few large orders and a dozen small ones. I don't
know how interested I am in getting "all sets with" automatically, but being
able to toggle that on when I'm desperate and keep it off otherwise would
work for me.

The other big game-changer I asked for was the ability to select between specific
variants for parts like 1x1 plate w/ clip. I usually won't mind Type C vs
Type D, so long as I can guarantee I'm not going to get Type A or Type B
by accident (this would, of course, work best if all variants had mandatory "undetermined"
listings available for those seller who can't bother to check, and if _I_
can choose to exclude Type U parts altogether).
 Author: drg7949 View Messages Posted By drg7949
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 19:36
 Subject: Re: search including parts in a part or in a set
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This post has been around for a while, but it's exactly the enhancement I'd
like to see implemented.

Example: If I have a particular torso on my wantlist, and I'm shopping for
parts, I'd also like to see any minifigs for sale that have that torso.
There's a good chance I might buy the fig instead.

Thanks.



In Suggestions, TomHop writes:
  After a brief search I could not find anything on the following, so there goes
my first post.

Sometimes I have parts like a hinge plate 1 x 2 with 1 finger (the old hinges)
on my wanted list.
This can be found
- as such , just this part
- in a parts assembly (together with the 2 finger hinge plate)
- in a set

If I search for any directly I can find them, no problem.
Nevertheless an option like "include part assembly in search" and/or "include
sets in search" would save me doing 3 different searches, besides possibly adding
all possible combinations to my wanted lists (risking missing out on a good purchase
or duplicating parts).

I would expect an option like this in the wanted list, (search and shop options),
shop search and catalog search for example.

To avoid massive search results ( if you have big wanted lists and/or very common
parts on the wanted list) a tickbox could be added at wanted list item level:
to indicate whether you want this to be eligable for the above options or not.

I am looking for feedback on the idea. Did I simply mis an option that I can
use? How can I propose it to the administrators?

Thanks for reading and feedback is really apreciated
Best regards,
Tom