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| | | Author: | Remko100  | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:08 | | Subject: | include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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| | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:14 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Superlots are marked with an (S) on the catalog page, isn't that good enough?
Foe example...
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Superlots are marked with an (S) on the catalog page, isn't that good enough?
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I think he wants it so that superlot prices aren't included in the price
guide averages. Right now the (s) by them still includes them when calculating
average prices.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Superlots are marked with an (S) on the catalog page, isn't that good enough?
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I think he wants it so that superlot prices aren't included in the price
guide averages. Right now the (s) by them still includes them when calculating
average prices.
Thor
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Ah, well, I guess I would have to agree with that then. I do hate to see the
superlot ability abused, and this at least would fix the price guide.
Darren
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| | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Good suggestion. I vote yes.
In your settings, you can already exclude incomplete sets from showing in the
Price Guide. See:
http://www.bricklink.com/priceGuideSettings.asp
So it should not be too difficult to code an additional setting for superlots.
Thor
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| | | | | | | Author: | therobo | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:27 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Good suggestion. I vote yes.
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So you want to penalize sellers who use the superlot function in good faith and
don't mess up the PG?
I voted no of course!
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?sID=5200&bindID=37954
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?sID=5200&bindID=39218
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bb138026 | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:30 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, therobo writes:
There's more abuse than honest use of that function.
The abuse permanently distorts the price guide history, and that's a serious
problem.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | therobo | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | In Suggestions, therobo writes:
There's more abuse than honest use of that function.
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As long as you can't back up this claim with reliable numbers I disagree.
Misuse of superlots is more noticeable, though, but I claim that the majority
of superlots are honest. They are less visible as they are in the normal range
of the PG and not on the low end with one item.
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The abuse permanently distorts the price guide history, and that's a serious
problem.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb138026 | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:42 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, therobo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | There's more abuse than honest use of that function.
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As long as you can't back up this claim with reliable numbers I disagree.
Misuse of superlots is more noticeable, though, but I claim that the majority
of superlots are honest. They are less visible as they are in the normal range
of the PG and not on the low end with one item.
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Just personal experience: I encounter superlot abuse very regularly, and I haven't
yet casually encountered a honest use of a superlot when browsing normally.
Like I said:
| | | | The abuse permanently distorts the price guide history, and that's a serious
problem.
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We need a way to filter these out, abuse or not.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, therobo writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Good suggestion. I vote yes.
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So you want to penalize sellers who use the superlot function in good faith and
don't mess up the PG?
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How does giving some buyers the option to exclude superlot prices from price
guide averages "penalize" sellers who use superlots? They can still list their
superlots at whatever price they want and those superlots can still be seen in
search results.
Do you also think sellers of incomplete sets are "penalized" because members
have the option to exclude incomplete set prices from price guide averages?
BTW, superlots can already be excluded from any search result. So again, how
does merely excluding superlot prices from price guide averages hurt superlot
sellers?
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Remko100 | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 18:00 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I don't want to penalize anyone. I just don't think ALL user will use
the superlot-lotvalues in a "right" manner. So if I can switch superlots on and
off, just like complete/incomplete, I get a more realistic pricelist. If you
want to have an example, check the pricelist for this:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?S=col13-3
In no way the average price is a realistic view of the items available for single
selling.
I will kindly ask you to reconsider your vote 
Remko
In Suggestions, therobo writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Good suggestion. I vote yes.
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So you want to penalize sellers who use the superlot function in good faith and
don't mess up the PG?
I voted no of course!
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?sID=5200&bindID=37954
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?sID=5200&bindID=39218
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| | | | | Author: | Rick_S. | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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got my seal of approval, i'd like to also make it an option where all superlots
can be excluded from searches if not already so.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tonnic | | Posted: | May 22, 2015 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I think a superlot can be a good functional tool.
But I do see too much misleading use of superlots.
I see it the most in CMF, the most expensive CMF in that serie is put in the
superlot with a low price misleading buyers and disturbing the priceguide.
Therefore I voted 'yes'.
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| | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | May 23, 2015 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: include/exclude superlots from pricelist | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Remko100 writes:
| | Hi,
I would like to see an option (like complete/incomplete) for excluding supelots
from the pricelist. It completeley messes up average pricings, because some people
make one lot of their superlot outrageous high in price and the others just 1
cent. It would be nice if people would use more realistic pricing, but I don't
think that's gonna happen, so that's why I propose this.
How do I get a vote button???
Kind regards,
Remko van Rosmalen
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Yes, I am good with this.
I add sellers to my least favorite list when I see super lot combinations where
one (or a few) items are on the low end of the price scale, and others on the
very high end of the price scale.
Some super lots make logical sense to me, others look like an attempt to manipulate
something.
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