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 Author: theboystoys View Messages Posted By theboystoys
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 00:55
 Subject: Suggestion: REMOVE SUGGESTIONS
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theboystoys (1108)

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This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented. Most recently the suggestion
to remove MSRP's was discarded even though the vast majority of sellers do
not want it.

I've seen numerous suggestions to alter the way feedback is displayed to
better represent the members performance in the community and thus far nothing
has come of it.

I understand the desire for any company to want input from their customers, but
in this setting when input is given, but action is not taken it quickly becomes
demoralizing for the members. Eventually people realize their opinion is of
no value to ownership and they stop participating. I think when a company puts
more emphasis on "market research" than they do the words coming from customers
mouths it's a recipe for degradation of the community here on bricklink.

Like I said, this is a serious suggestion. I think giving people the illusion
of some decision making ability when in fact they have none will do nothing more
than hurt the site.

Matt
 Author: bb459958 View Messages Posted By bb459958
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 01:27
 Subject: Re: Suggestion: REMOVE SUGGESTIONS
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In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented. Most recently the suggestion
to remove MSRP's was discarded even though the vast majority of sellers do
not want it.

I've seen numerous suggestions to alter the way feedback is displayed to
better represent the members performance in the community and thus far nothing
has come of it.

I understand the desire for any company to want input from their customers, but
in this setting when input is given, but action is not taken it quickly becomes
demoralizing for the members. Eventually people realize their opinion is of
no value to ownership and they stop participating. I think when a company puts
more emphasis on "market research" than they do the words coming from customers
mouths it's a recipe for degradation of the community here on bricklink.

Like I said, this is a serious suggestion. I think giving people the illusion
of some decision making ability when in fact they have none will do nothing more
than hurt the site.

Matt

Voted yes. Completely worthless topic.
 Author: FigBits View Messages Posted By FigBits
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 01:34
 Subject: Re: Suggestion: REMOVE SUGGESTIONS
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In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented. Most recently the suggestion
to remove MSRP's was discarded even though the vast majority of sellers do
not want it.

I've seen numerous suggestions to alter the way feedback is displayed to
better represent the members performance in the community and thus far nothing
has come of it.

I understand the desire for any company to want input from their customers, but
in this setting when input is given, but action is not taken it quickly becomes
demoralizing for the members. Eventually people realize their opinion is of
no value to ownership and they stop participating. I think when a company puts
more emphasis on "market research" than they do the words coming from customers
mouths it's a recipe for degradation of the community here on bricklink.

Like I said, this is a serious suggestion. I think giving people the illusion
of some decision making ability when in fact they have none will do nothing more
than hurt the site.

Matt


I disagree.

Could there be more action on suggestions? Absolutely. Is it frustrating to see
many great suggestions that have not been implemented over the last few years?
Definitely.

But if BL tomorrow decided to delete the Suggestions topic, and posted "Hey,
all! We decided that it's better to just not let you think you have any influence
over the direction the company takes anymore." Well... that would be much much
worse.


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Marc.
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 01:40
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  But if BL tomorrow decided to delete the Suggestions topic, and posted "Hey,
all! We decided that it's better to just not let you think you have any influence
over the direction the company takes anymore." Well... that would be much much
worse.


Not to mention that most of the people who would agree to remove it would probably
also be the same ones who would then complain the loudest that it is no longer
there.

Jim
 Author: theboystoys View Messages Posted By theboystoys
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 01:47
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented. Most recently the suggestion
to remove MSRP's was discarded even though the vast majority of sellers do
not want it.

I've seen numerous suggestions to alter the way feedback is displayed to
better represent the members performance in the community and thus far nothing
has come of it.

I understand the desire for any company to want input from their customers, but
in this setting when input is given, but action is not taken it quickly becomes
demoralizing for the members. Eventually people realize their opinion is of
no value to ownership and they stop participating. I think when a company puts
more emphasis on "market research" than they do the words coming from customers
mouths it's a recipe for degradation of the community here on bricklink.

Like I said, this is a serious suggestion. I think giving people the illusion
of some decision making ability when in fact they have none will do nothing more
than hurt the site.

Matt


I disagree.

Could there be more action on suggestions? Absolutely. Is it frustrating to see
many great suggestions that have not been implemented over the last few years?
Definitely.

But if BL tomorrow decided to delete the Suggestions topic, and posted "Hey,
all! We decided that it's better to just not let you think you have any influence
over the direction the company takes anymore." Well... that would be much much
worse.


--
Marc.

I know what your saying but the reality is we don't have any influence over
the direction of the company and giving people false hope is only positive until
the person realizes their opinion is irrelevant.

By the way I don't fault BL for running their business the way they see fit.
Ultimately if they make poor decisions it will decline. If they make positive
changes it will improve. But the users have no say in it, they can only decide
to either use the site or not.

Matt
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 02:46
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In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented.

No. I like the suggestions. It is a good way for us to provide input and have
others respond to it.

Currently there is a huge backlog but I hope that much can be dealt with while
this website works towards version 3.0.

How BrickLink deals with this information is up to them. We are not a democracy,
but that does not mean we are not listened to. Even if only one out of ten suggestions
is accepted, that one might provide a very useful solution to a problem the website
management did not even realise was there before the suggestion was made.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 03:08
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In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented.

Matt

Voted no.

There are Suggestions double, already existing or help/wantlist/inventory-questions
posted as suggestions which could be removed/discarded.

I patiently wait for the upcoming suggestion-survey: http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=809302
 Author: Brick_Wizard View Messages Posted By Brick_Wizard
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 04:14
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Wouldn't it be ironic if this was the first suggestion they decided to implement
in years?
 Author: bb138026 View Messages Posted By bb138026
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 07:01
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In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented. Most recently the suggestion
to remove MSRP's was discarded even though the vast majority of sellers do
not want it.

It's about time people realize we have no say whatsoever in how BrickLink
is run. This isn't a community-driven website anymore. Management will work
on whatever they want, such as this MOC shop, which no one had asked for.

Perhaps we'll now see fewer endless and ultimately pointless debates in the
forum?
 Author: goshe7 View Messages Posted By goshe7
 Posted: Apr 17, 2014 07:10
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In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented.

There is a reason for that. You can debate if the reasons for 0 implementations
is valid, but the reasoning has been explained.

  Most recently the suggestion
to remove MSRP's was discarded even though the vast majority of sellers do
not want it.

Majority vote never has been, and never should be, the only factor in implementing
suggestions.
  
I've seen numerous suggestions to alter the way feedback is displayed to
better represent the members performance in the community and thus far nothing
has come of it.

I understand the desire for any company to want input from their customers, but
in this setting when input is given, but action is not taken it quickly becomes
demoralizing for the members. Eventually people realize their opinion is of
no value to ownership and they stop participating.

Agreed.

  I think when a company puts
more emphasis on "market research" than they do the words coming from customers
mouths it's a recipe for degradation of the community here on bricklink.

BrickLink has something like 300,000 registered users. Probably 300 are active
on the forums. And probably 30 are particularly "vocal". Letting that tiny
fraction of the population that is "vocal" on the forums be your sole voice for
maintaining the community is equally dangerous.

  
Like I said, this is a serious suggestion. I think giving people the illusion
of some decision making ability when in fact they have none will do nothing more
than hurt the site.

Matt

Suggestions do not equal decision making ability. Perhaps you misspoke. I wouldn't
disagree if you said the suggestions topic might give people the impression that
their opinions matter when in fact it doesn't.
 Author: legohead10 View Messages Posted By legohead10
 Posted: May 3, 2014 13:48
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hmmm that's a suggestion you should put more posts up you should better listen
to me!
no just kidding! cool post!
 Author: tomte View Messages Posted By tomte
 Posted: May 18, 2014 11:57
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Hi Matt,

the solution should be to install someone who works on the solution of suggestions
not to destroy the topic only because its not active.
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In Suggestions, theboystoys writes:
  This is a sincere suggestion and not sarcasm.

Please remove the suggestion topic from the forums. There's 850 open suggestions
with over 77,000 posts and 0 have been implemented.

Ah, if only you could have seen the future back in 2014.

I see you're still active on the site, so perhaps you'll read this message
and enjoy the nostalgia.