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 Author: SheepEater View Messages Posted By SheepEater
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:03
 Subject: Suggestion Add a 'gender' flag to minifigs!
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The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)
 Author: Brettj666 View Messages Posted By Brettj666
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:28
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In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

I don't think it's a worthwhile exercise to go through every mini-fig to identify
their gender so a single person (or small subset) has searching for something
made simple.

Changes should be made for things that a great deal of the population would use.

Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?
 Author: SheepEater View Messages Posted By SheepEater
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:50
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  Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?

Because I tend to prefer to look for complete figs rather than minifig parts,
but maybe that's just me.
 Author: Brettj666 View Messages Posted By Brettj666
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:52
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In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  
  Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?

Because I tend to prefer to look for complete figs rather than minifig parts,
but maybe that's just me.

So, here would be my work around suggestion.

Find the female hair/faces, check out what mini-figs they belong to and decide
if you want them for your project or not. If you do, add that complete mini-fig
to your wanted list.

Search on the wanted list instead of searching for a word.
 Author: Ctbyrne View Messages Posted By Ctbyrne
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 15:27
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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  
  Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?

Because I tend to prefer to look for complete figs rather than minifig parts,
but maybe that's just me.

So, here would be my work around suggestion.

Find the female hair/faces, check out what mini-figs they belong to and decide
if you want them for your project or not. If you do, add that complete mini-fig
to your wanted list.

Search on the wanted list instead of searching for a word.

This is a good point, most heads are already gender-assigned. Every female head
will appear on a female minifig. The only problem I can think of is the standard
grin heads. Lots of new sets like modulars use the standard heads for all of
the figs included, male or female.

Chris
 Author: bb247583 View Messages Posted By bb247583
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 14:41
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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

I don't think it's a worthwhile exercise to go through every mini-fig to identify
their gender so a single person (or small subset) has searching for something
made simple.

Changes should be made for things that a great deal of the population would use.

Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?

I disagree. Making the shopping experience easier, even in this small way, for
buyers is a plus in my option. And there is no way for you to know if only a
small amount off people would or would not use this option to find specific minifigures
in this way.
 Author: Brettj666 View Messages Posted By Brettj666
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 14:50
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In Suggestions, jlmcgivney writes:
  In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

I don't think it's a worthwhile exercise to go through every mini-fig to identify
their gender so a single person (or small subset) has searching for something
made simple.

Changes should be made for things that a great deal of the population would use.

Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?

I disagree. Making the shopping experience easier, even in this small way, for
buyers is a plus in my option. And there is no way for you to know if only a
small amount off people would or would not use this option to find specific minifigures
in this way.

Then I would question if you make this small thing easier for people, where do
you stop?
As someone who works in IT, I know that 80% of the requests we see are people
that are just too damn lazy to do the work themselves.
As soon as you put an effort requirement and a cost to it, they find a way to
get it done by themselves.

It's an effective way to parse out what really needs to be done and what doesn't.


If you go through all the requests, do you fulfill them all? (think Bruce Almighty
with his YES email)
Why is a request by someone to make something they can already do, that much
simpler, not done and this, equally simple thing, gets done.

Why can't wanted lists be updated automatically, why can't the system arrange
for Shop A to ship the product to Shop B so I can get all my items in one package.
 Author: bb247583 View Messages Posted By bb247583
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 15:23
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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  In Suggestions, jlmcgivney writes:
  In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

I don't think it's a worthwhile exercise to go through every mini-fig to identify
their gender so a single person (or small subset) has searching for something
made simple.

Changes should be made for things that a great deal of the population would use.

Why not do a search using female faces (or hair) and just marking those on a
wanted list?

I disagree. Making the shopping experience easier, even in this small way, for
buyers is a plus in my option. And there is no way for you to know if only a
small amount off people would or would not use this option to find specific minifigures
in this way.

Then I would question if you make this small thing easier for people, where do
you stop?
As someone who works in IT, I know that 80% of the requests we see are people
that are just too damn lazy to do the work themselves.
As soon as you put an effort requirement and a cost to it, they find a way to
get it done by themselves.

It's an effective way to parse out what really needs to be done and what doesn't.


If you go through all the requests, do you fulfill them all? (think Bruce Almighty
with his YES email)
Why is a request by someone to make something they can already do, that much
simpler, not done and this, equally simple thing, gets done.

Why can't wanted lists be updated automatically, why can't the system arrange
for Shop A to ship the product to Shop B so I can get all my items in one package.

Because the way this site is laid out it is not easy for buyers to find items
they want, especially new users. And I've read in other posts there is the possibility
that there is a BL 2.0 being worked on, so labor is already being spent to updating
the site.

Also IT has nothing to do with it, other then will the labor spent implementing
the option increases sales enough to cover that labor and also increase BL's
bottom line.

The most important thing is the customers experience on this site. Because it
determines whether or not they will come back again to continue buying Legos
here instead of a competitor. I mean my first experience making a purchase on
this website took well over 7 hours to find one store that carried all the pieces
I needed to make one custom minifigure that my daughter saw on Amazon. Which
I would have bought there except it was selling for some obscene amount money,
something like $50 I think.

Also just looking at it from the IT point of view and the work involved is a
"small subset" way to look at the situation rather then taking the whole picture
into account. I personal would use the option. And just because a ton of users
don't reply to this thread saying its a good option does not make it a bad one.
I'm sure the amount of BL users that use the forums is small fraction of the
total amount of users who make purchases on this website, but that is yet another
thing only the Owners/Admin of BL that deal with those things would know not
use.

The other thing you asked is if YES should be answered to every suggestion made.
And the answer is no of course not. But this is the place to make those suggestions.
My point was that I thought it was a good suggestion and that you had no "actual"
knowledge of the statistics, BL might not even know, of how many users would
or would not use the option. But maybe BL if they don't already know, might start
tracking how users come about finding gender specific items to see if it was
worth the labor to make the change.
 Author: cptnruthless View Messages Posted By cptnruthless
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:58
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In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

Rather than creating a new flag (which would create extra work for admin), perhaps
we could instead lobby the catmins to allow additions to the female mini figure
description. So instead of having:

 
Minifig No: ac008  Name: Alien Conquest Reporter
* 
ac008 (Inv) Alien Conquest Reporter
Minifigures: Space: Alien Conquest

The description would be the same except to include "(female)".

Personally, I would *LOVE* this feature.

-Ruth
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Apr 4, 2012 14:56
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In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
Suggestion Add a 'gender' flag to minifigs!

Does that mean they gender affection with those that buy them? As I am male,
the cheerleader and the nurse gender the most affection from my twisted point
of view.
John P
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What John, not the grandma fig?

LM



Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
Suggestion Add a 'gender' flag to minifigs!

Does that mean they gender affection with those that buy them? As I am male,
the cheerleader and the nurse gender the most affection from my twisted point
of view.
John P
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
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In Suggestions, rikitikitaviguy writes:
  What John, not the grandma fig?

LM


NO, people my age look scary.
John P
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In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

Sylvester McMonkey McBean says those without those with shall be differentiated
by your dollars forthwith!

I have a star, and you have not, you're you being silly, or have you forgot?

Cheebas neutral non bannable!

What about my transgendered, and non gendered friends for grumpfiddlebits sake!

-R
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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

Sylvester McMonkey McBean says those without those with shall be differentiated
by your dollars forthwith!

I have a star, and you have not, you're you being silly, or have you forgot?

Cheebas neutral non bannable!

What about my transgendered, and non gendered friends for grumpfiddlebits sake!

-R

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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

Sylvester McMonkey McBean says those without those with shall be differentiated
by your dollars forthwith!

I have a star, and you have not, you're you being silly, or have you forgot?

Cheebas neutral non bannable!

What about my transgendered, and non gendered friends for grumpfiddlebits sake!

-R

Time for you to switch to decaf Rob.

Tracyd
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  What about my transgendered, and non gendered friends for grumpfiddlebits sake!

I was going to bring that up

MichiganBricks
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I like this idea. The labor for admin to implement most likely would be all
of 15 mins. It is adding another field in the SQL database and then adding fields
for the data entry on a few pages. The real labor would be done by the community
as a whole and the catamins who would then have to submit and approve the data
to populate the data into the database.

Even if not in the current bricklink setup this would be an easy addition for
Bricklink 2.0 which is supposedly in the works right?

You could appoint a new catamin gender approver to handle the influx of new data
submissions.



In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)
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In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
  I like this idea. The labor for admin to implement most likely would be all
of 15 mins. It is adding another field in the SQL database and then adding fields
for the data entry on a few pages. The real labor would be done by the community
as a whole and the catamins who would then have to submit and approve the data
to populate the data into the database.

Even if not in the current bricklink setup this would be an easy addition for
Bricklink 2.0 which is supposedly in the works right?

You could appoint a new catamin gender approver to handle the influx of new data
submissions.


Uhhmm, they need a different title. That one sounds wrong, very wrong.



  In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)
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  I like this idea. The labor for admin to implement most likely would be all
of 15 mins. It is adding another field in the SQL database and then adding fields
for the data entry on a few pages. The real labor would be done by the community
as a whole and the catamins who would then have to submit and approve the data
to populate the data into the database.

Even if not in the current bricklink setup this would be an easy addition for
Bricklink 2.0 which is supposedly in the works right?


Thanks for the support, and yes, I know for a fact that implementing this is
very easy.

The real fruit of the labor though, as other pointed, would be the improved search
= easier to find what the buyer is looking for.
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In Suggestions, WhPlague writes:
  The reason is that I want to populate my city with lots of diverse female minifigs.

Doing a search with "girl", "woman" or "female" will still leave out the majority
of them that are described solely by their hair or clothes.

There could be four possible choices:
1) Male
2) Female
3) Neutral (for robots, aliens and monsters)
4) Undetermined (all minifigs would default to this until assigned a gender.)

I think this is a great idea. I often look for female figs via the head first
approach, but this would be better! please