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 Author: JediRob View Messages Posted By JediRob
 Posted: Oct 5, 2011 11:22
 Subject: Box condition should only be "Used"
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JediRob (990)

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 Author: JediRob View Messages Posted By JediRob
 Posted: Oct 5, 2011 12:38
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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JediRob (990)

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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
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I vote "Yes" Here myself

Please describe, in either this, or the other suggestion how you would write
the new addendum to the items listing policies.

-R
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Oct 5, 2011 12:40
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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legoman77 (3628)

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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  See:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=580812

I vote "Yes" Here myself

Please describe, in either this, or the other suggestion how you would write
the new addendum to the items listing policies.

-R

"Original boxes can only be listed as used." Take the new option off as a choice
when listing.
John P
 Author: JediRob View Messages Posted By JediRob
 Posted: Oct 5, 2011 12:45
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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JediRob (990)

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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  See:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=580812

I vote "Yes" Here myself

Please describe, in either this, or the other suggestion how you would write
the new addendum to the items listing policies.

-R

"Original boxes can only be listed as used." Take the new option off as a choice
when listing.
John P

or,

"Original boxes can only be listed as used unless received directly from LEGO
before being used as packaging." "Used boxes should have their condition clearly
stated in the comments for the item" "It is encouraged to make photographs of
boxes, as condition is subjective"

-R
 Author: bb246128 View Messages Posted By bb246128
 Posted: Oct 10, 2011 05:01
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=580812

I voted yes, the box can only be new if it is full and unopened.

Grading boxes by condition makes much more sense.

Fiddy
 Author: 1977_mauro View Messages Posted By 1977_mauro
 Posted: Oct 10, 2011 05:06
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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1977_mauro (3375)

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Definitely NO, boxes should have NO condition.

When I part out a set and remove polybags from it then my boxes are looking like
new and were NEVER used... Otherwise you would have to to declare parts also
as used because of sorting...

Therefore REMOVE the condition for boxes...

In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
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 Author: bb246128 View Messages Posted By bb246128
 Posted: Oct 10, 2011 05:09
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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In Suggestions, 1977_mauro writes:
  Definitely NO, boxes should have NO condition.

When I part out a set and remove polybags from it then my boxes are looking like
new and were NEVER used... Otherwise you would have to to declare parts also
as used because of sorting...

Therefore REMOVE the condition for boxes...

In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=580812

Not quite, this is a separate issue from parts. Parts state and condition are
covered in 102 http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

This is about the box, which in my opinion is only new when still sealed and
filled with a set. How can it be new if you opened it.

Fiddy
 Author: 1977_mauro View Messages Posted By 1977_mauro
 Posted: Oct 10, 2011 05:13
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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1977_mauro (3375)

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You can also list a set as NEW & COMPLETE. This INCLUDES also the box!!!

When it should be listed separetly as USED then it would make no sense for the
whole set to declare it as NEW & COMPLETE.

I understand you that you say that an open box is open and used but because of
my explanation above I tend to have no condition for boxes.

Mauro

In Suggestions, FiddyB writes:
  In Suggestions, 1977_mauro writes:
  Definitely NO, boxes should have NO condition.

When I part out a set and remove polybags from it then my boxes are looking like
new and were NEVER used... Otherwise you would have to to declare parts also
as used because of sorting...

Therefore REMOVE the condition for boxes...

In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  See:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=580812

Not quite, this is a separate issue from parts. Parts state and condition are
covered in 102 http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

This is about the box, which in my opinion is only new when still sealed and
filled with a set. How can it be new if you opened it.

Fiddy
 Author: bb246128 View Messages Posted By bb246128
 Posted: Oct 10, 2011 05:17
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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In Suggestions, 1977_mauro writes:
  You can also list a set as NEW & COMPLETE. This INCLUDES also the box!!!

When it should be listed separetly as USED then it would make no sense for the
whole set to declare it as NEW & COMPLETE.

I understand you that you say that an open box is open and used but because of
my explanation above I tend to have no condition for boxes.

Mauro

In Suggestions, FiddyB writes:
  In Suggestions, 1977_mauro writes:
  Definitely NO, boxes should have NO condition.

When I part out a set and remove polybags from it then my boxes are looking like
new and were NEVER used... Otherwise you would have to to declare parts also
as used because of sorting...

Therefore REMOVE the condition for boxes...

In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  See:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=580812

Not quite, this is a separate issue from parts. Parts state and condition are
covered in 102 http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

This is about the box, which in my opinion is only new when still sealed and
filled with a set. How can it be new if you opened it.

Fiddy

TBH I don't have a definative answer to this issue but can see that it has crossed
several threads and opinions.

I don't have any boxes listed but when I do list them, they will all be listed
as used with a description of condition.

I also don't have any open sets, used or otherwise but not sure how I will approach
this.

Fiddy
 Author: Rbobo View Messages Posted By Rbobo
 Posted: Oct 10, 2011 05:46
 Subject: Re: Box condition should only be "Used"
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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
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I voted no. Either we should have a clearly defined distinction between "new"
and "used" that applies to boxes under normal circumstances (because the definition
used for parts clearly can not apply to boxes) or there should simply be no condition
field for boxes.

-Richard Bobo
Bobo's Brick Bazaar