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 Author: oasis View Messages Posted By oasis
 Posted: Aug 20, 2011 16:28
 Subject: One way to make performance better
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we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!
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In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

I've also suggested this both publicly and privately to Admin. We need to improve
the experience for the buyers so they can buy more!

-Jason
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
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In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

1/2 of 1% increase in fees paid by the sellers would mean about a 17% increase
in revenue for BrickLink which could be used to update the system and that would
only mean an increase of our fees by $0.05 for every $10.00 we sell - Well Worth
It to see the speed, security and overall experience improve dramatically.

Jim -of- TheBrickGuys
 Author: I_like_bricks View Messages Posted By I_like_bricks
 Posted: Aug 20, 2011 17:35
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In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

I agree, some investment in faster hardware would benefit sellers and buyers,
there is nothing more anoying then server timeouts when loading parts to the
inventory or searching for something you'd like to buy...

Stefan
 Author: kzinti View Messages Posted By kzinti
 Posted: Aug 20, 2011 18:03
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In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

First, a detailed server process mapping should take place and then a complete
system hardware, software and network analysis to determine where and what the
bottlenecks are. Second should be developing the future state map that shows
ideally how the system should operate. Then comes the technical planning stage
where Admin sits down with various techies and lays out the scope of work and
gets pricing for each segment. Then, when everything is down on paper, the decision
can be made as to which of the improvements are cost effective to implement.

I think Admin understands the scope of the project before him, being the Head
IT Guru in Charge, but I do wish that he would share a bit with us as to where
they are in their timeline. Is a complete re-write of the software necessary?
Will additional hardware help (front end or back end)? Is the firewall helping
or hindering network flow? And even further beyond the hardware, software and
network issues, when are we going to be able to opt in for BrickLink co-op advertising?
Have secure login features and better verification functions. I for one would
be more than interested to hear what the proposed direction BrickLink will take
in the future.

While I know that BrickLink is a privately held company and they really owe us
little in the way of this type of information, it would be a great public relations
gesture to at least acknowledge that someone is listening and actively seeking
solutions to the current problems, that they are indeed looking into future upgrades
to the system and even perhaps some sort of timeline for improvements to ease
our current worries.
 Author: oasis View Messages Posted By oasis
 Posted: Aug 21, 2011 08:48
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   Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

yes, I know all of these things, too, but it's great that you broke out many
of the details here, because most folks probably don't see all the things that
come into play, to make a decision like this..

but I do want to point that I was just saying that I'm in favor of the idea,
if the "informed decision" is made..
 Author: kzinti View Messages Posted By kzinti
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In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

yes, I know all of these things, too, but it's great that you broke out many
of the details here, because most folks probably don't see all the things that
come into play, to make a decision like this..

but I do want to point that I was just saying that I'm in favor of the idea,
if the "informed decision" is made..

Often times, people think it's just something simple like adding memory or upgrading
a processor to run better. Not so with large scale web operations. I would support
decisions made that make the site more secure, user friendly, stable and any
advertising activity that reaches out to the world wide community to help drive
sales. As I said before, it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.
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   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..
 Author: therobo View Messages Posted By therobo
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In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..

Maybe there IS no interest in improving the site?
 Author: kzinti View Messages Posted By kzinti
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In Suggestions, therobo writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..

Maybe there IS no interest in improving the site?

Doubt that. I believe that they are having troubles at the moment mapping out
all the procedures and interlinked work that was done to make BrickLink because
it was programmed over time, by one individual, who basically added and subtracted
stuff as it made sense to him. Now, without any real prior knowledge of the system
other than taking care of the hardware aspects, people are having to not only
maintain the current system (through some pretty hectic stuff I must admit),
but also perform a sort of forensic analysis on it to understand the intricacy
of it and from that, map out the future of the system. I think it comes down
to a simple choice, does it make sense to keep it going as is or get people involved
to do a complete rewrite of everything from the ground up to make it more modular
and allow for easier, simpler infrastructure changes. Just the programming behind
the exchange rate stuff is mind boggling, imagine the coding for the whole site.
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In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, therobo writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..

Maybe there IS no interest in improving the site?

Doubt that. I believe that they are having troubles at the moment mapping out
all the procedures and interlinked work that was done to make BrickLink because
it was programmed over time, by one individual, who basically added and subtracted
stuff as it made sense to him. Now, without any real prior knowledge of the system
other than taking care of the hardware aspects, people are having to not only
maintain the current system (through some pretty hectic stuff I must admit),
but also perform a sort of forensic analysis on it to understand the intricacy
of it and from that, map out the future of the system. I think it comes down
to a simple choice, does it make sense to keep it going as is or get people involved
to do a complete rewrite of everything from the ground up to make it more modular
and allow for easier, simpler infrastructure changes. Just the programming behind
the exchange rate stuff is mind boggling, imagine the coding for the whole site.

I'd love to get involved with that if I knew what I was doing.
 Author: bricksahead View Messages Posted By bricksahead
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In Suggestions, therobo writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..

Maybe there IS no interest in improving the site?


I actually think there is an interest in improving the site but it conflicts
with a wise saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Just imagine having to
maintain a one man's huge piece of software let alone adding new features or
improving performance ...
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In Suggestions, bricksahead writes:
  In Suggestions, therobo writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..

Maybe there IS no interest in improving the site?


I actually think there is an interest in improving the site but it conflicts
with a wise saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Just imagine having to
maintain a one man's huge piece of software let alone adding new features or
improving performance ...

I live that nightmare every day at work. LOLOL
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In Suggestions, bricksahead writes:
  In Suggestions, therobo writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  
   it would be nice if someone would share something, anything,
as I feel like things are in limbo lately.

agreed.. unfortunately, lack of communication of this nature often means lack
of interest..

Maybe there IS no interest in improving the site?


I actually think there is an interest in improving the site but it conflicts
with a wise saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Just imagine having to
maintain a one man's huge piece of software let alone adding new features or
improving performance ...

Actually there's nothing preventing developers from developing a new version
on test server.
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In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

First, a detailed server process mapping should take place and then a complete
system hardware, software and network analysis to determine where and what the
bottlenecks are. Second should be developing the future state map that shows
ideally how the system should operate. Then comes the technical planning stage
where Admin sits down with various techies and lays out the scope of work and
gets pricing for each segment. Then, when everything is down on paper, the decision
can be made as to which of the improvements are cost effective to implement.

I think Admin understands the scope of the project before him, being the Head
IT Guru in Charge, but I do wish that he would share a bit with us as to where
they are in their timeline. Is a complete re-write of the software necessary?
Will additional hardware help (front end or back end)? Is the firewall helping
or hindering network flow? And even further beyond the hardware, software and
network issues, when are we going to be able to opt in for BrickLink co-op advertising?
Have secure login features and better verification functions. I for one would
be more than interested to hear what the proposed direction BrickLink will take
in the future.

While I know that BrickLink is a privately held company and they really owe us
little in the way of this type of information, it would be a great public relations
gesture to at least acknowledge that someone is listening and actively seeking
solutions to the current problems, that they are indeed looking into future upgrades
to the system and even perhaps some sort of timeline for improvements to ease
our current worries.


BrickLink should forget about trying to manage their own hardware. I am sure
most of the time, resources and money is spent managing and maintaining these
antiquated systems. The volume of traffic keeps growing and it doesn't seem to
be able to cope with it. Take it to the cloud, go with Windows Azure ( http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/),
then BrickLink can actually focus on making the site better as there have been
zero improvements since the founders passing. The way I see it, the door is wide
open for a competitor to come in and stomp out BrickLink pretty quickly if they
can provide a modern, stable, fast and secure app, something that BrickLink is
really starting to fail at.
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In Suggestions, JasonsBricks writes:
  In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

First, a detailed server process mapping should take place and then a complete
system hardware, software and network analysis to determine where and what the
bottlenecks are. Second should be developing the future state map that shows
ideally how the system should operate. Then comes the technical planning stage
where Admin sits down with various techies and lays out the scope of work and
gets pricing for each segment. Then, when everything is down on paper, the decision
can be made as to which of the improvements are cost effective to implement.

I think Admin understands the scope of the project before him, being the Head
IT Guru in Charge, but I do wish that he would share a bit with us as to where
they are in their timeline. Is a complete re-write of the software necessary?
Will additional hardware help (front end or back end)? Is the firewall helping
or hindering network flow? And even further beyond the hardware, software and
network issues, when are we going to be able to opt in for BrickLink co-op advertising?
Have secure login features and better verification functions. I for one would
be more than interested to hear what the proposed direction BrickLink will take
in the future.

While I know that BrickLink is a privately held company and they really owe us
little in the way of this type of information, it would be a great public relations
gesture to at least acknowledge that someone is listening and actively seeking
solutions to the current problems, that they are indeed looking into future upgrades
to the system and even perhaps some sort of timeline for improvements to ease
our current worries.


BrickLink should forget about trying to manage their own hardware. I am sure
most of the time, resources and money is spent managing and maintaining these
antiquated systems. The volume of traffic keeps growing and it doesn't seem to
be able to cope with it. Take it to the cloud, go with Windows Azure ( http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/),
then BrickLink can actually focus on making the site better as there have been
zero improvements since the founders passing. The way I see it, the door is wide
open for a competitor to come in and stomp out BrickLink pretty quickly if they
can provide a modern, stable, fast and secure app, something that BrickLink is
really starting to fail at.

Basically it in a nutshell, change or die. I however, would not put anything
on SQL, having seen the differences in performance between Oracle and SQL. Just
my personal beef with MS I guess. Indeed, if BrickLink expects to remain a viable
platform, it simply comes down to the law of survival, change or die.
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In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, JasonsBricks writes:
  In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

First, a detailed server process mapping should take place and then a complete
system hardware, software and network analysis to determine where and what the
bottlenecks are. Second should be developing the future state map that shows
ideally how the system should operate. Then comes the technical planning stage
where Admin sits down with various techies and lays out the scope of work and
gets pricing for each segment. Then, when everything is down on paper, the decision
can be made as to which of the improvements are cost effective to implement.

I think Admin understands the scope of the project before him, being the Head
IT Guru in Charge, but I do wish that he would share a bit with us as to where
they are in their timeline. Is a complete re-write of the software necessary?
Will additional hardware help (front end or back end)? Is the firewall helping
or hindering network flow? And even further beyond the hardware, software and
network issues, when are we going to be able to opt in for BrickLink co-op advertising?
Have secure login features and better verification functions. I for one would
be more than interested to hear what the proposed direction BrickLink will take
in the future.

While I know that BrickLink is a privately held company and they really owe us
little in the way of this type of information, it would be a great public relations
gesture to at least acknowledge that someone is listening and actively seeking
solutions to the current problems, that they are indeed looking into future upgrades
to the system and even perhaps some sort of timeline for improvements to ease
our current worries.


BrickLink should forget about trying to manage their own hardware. I am sure
most of the time, resources and money is spent managing and maintaining these
antiquated systems. The volume of traffic keeps growing and it doesn't seem to
be able to cope with it. Take it to the cloud, go with Windows Azure ( http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/),
then BrickLink can actually focus on making the site better as there have been
zero improvements since the founders passing. The way I see it, the door is wide
open for a competitor to come in and stomp out BrickLink pretty quickly if they
can provide a modern, stable, fast and secure app, something that BrickLink is
really starting to fail at.

Basically it in a nutshell, change or die. I however, would not put anything
on SQL, having seen the differences in performance between Oracle and SQL. Just
my personal beef with MS I guess. Indeed, if BrickLink expects to remain a viable
platform, it simply comes down to the law of survival, change or die.

Coke vs Pepsi

The nice thing with Azure is it is a global network, so content is served up
fast and it is infinitely scalable.
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In Suggestions, JasonsBricks writes:
  In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, JasonsBricks writes:
  In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, oasis writes:
  we all know that server equipment and maintenance can cost.. I, for one, would
welcome a small bump in the fees if I knew it was gonna make the sytem work better!

Knowing a bit about infrastructure and networking, there are a few things that
should come before a vote for a fee hike.

First, a detailed server process mapping should take place and then a complete
system hardware, software and network analysis to determine where and what the
bottlenecks are. Second should be developing the future state map that shows
ideally how the system should operate. Then comes the technical planning stage
where Admin sits down with various techies and lays out the scope of work and
gets pricing for each segment. Then, when everything is down on paper, the decision
can be made as to which of the improvements are cost effective to implement.

I think Admin understands the scope of the project before him, being the Head
IT Guru in Charge, but I do wish that he would share a bit with us as to where
they are in their timeline. Is a complete re-write of the software necessary?
Will additional hardware help (front end or back end)? Is the firewall helping
or hindering network flow? And even further beyond the hardware, software and
network issues, when are we going to be able to opt in for BrickLink co-op advertising?
Have secure login features and better verification functions. I for one would
be more than interested to hear what the proposed direction BrickLink will take
in the future.

While I know that BrickLink is a privately held company and they really owe us
little in the way of this type of information, it would be a great public relations
gesture to at least acknowledge that someone is listening and actively seeking
solutions to the current problems, that they are indeed looking into future upgrades
to the system and even perhaps some sort of timeline for improvements to ease
our current worries.


BrickLink should forget about trying to manage their own hardware. I am sure
most of the time, resources and money is spent managing and maintaining these
antiquated systems. The volume of traffic keeps growing and it doesn't seem to
be able to cope with it. Take it to the cloud, go with Windows Azure ( http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/),
then BrickLink can actually focus on making the site better as there have been
zero improvements since the founders passing. The way I see it, the door is wide
open for a competitor to come in and stomp out BrickLink pretty quickly if they
can provide a modern, stable, fast and secure app, something that BrickLink is
really starting to fail at.

Basically it in a nutshell, change or die. I however, would not put anything
on SQL, having seen the differences in performance between Oracle and SQL. Just
my personal beef with MS I guess. Indeed, if BrickLink expects to remain a viable
platform, it simply comes down to the law of survival, change or die.

Coke vs Pepsi

The nice thing with Azure is it is a global network, so content is served up
fast and it is infinitely scalable.

Until the blue screen of death and then they have to reboot the server.