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| | | Author: | ToriHada  | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 20:36 | | Subject: | Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 380 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me. 
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | Nannan | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 20:49 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 111 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I sell spare minifigs and sets to help pay for buying bricks to build. If someone
blocks me because I have a store, then I can't build stuff like this:
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:24 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Author: | mhn1957 | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 20:52 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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I like it, because I like options. I have bought some things from a seller who
doesn't want to sell to resellers. I don't resell things I buy here. (That isn't
an absolute, forever, but generally, no, I haven't. I'm buying stuff I need or
want.)
So, I would like to have something come up similar to the store closed password
system, so I could shop in a seller who doesn't sell to resellers with him depending
on my word that I wasn't just going to flip the items.
It could be implemented by adding a function to the store settings, "show store
as closed to sellers", but then, I as a seller might not be able to see items
on sale so I can price my stuff slightly below the lowest seller's. Also, my
claims to lowest price on BL might be untrue without my knowledge.
The worst way to implement this would be to allow me to shop in the store, but
when I checked out, I would be told that my trade was not wanted. Why waste my
time?
Mark (MHN1957)
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| | | | | Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 21:00 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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Not that I disagree, but what about "seller's" that only have a store to keep
track of their private collection?
Just wondering.
Donna
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_79471 | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 21:23 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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It's certainly an interesting idea and a suggestion I would vote yes to as I
do like having as many options as possible on the site for both buyers and sellers.
As a buyer & seller, my purchases are done as parts that I need for personal
MOC projects. Several times in the past I've ended up reselling some parts that
I ended up not using in projects but that was mostly from design changes after
the parts were delivered with next to no possible use for them (note we're talking
some small individual parts of no significant quantity which were sold at the
same price I paid for them).
If someone had an issue with this and thus saw me as a "reseller" and ended up
blocking me from their store then I feel that is their right but in the end it
just means they lose an honest customer.
I'll vote yes.
Rumrunner.
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| | | | | Author: | D.Rae.McCormick | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| OK, so I've been frustrated when someone listed parts I need for a project
and then someone else scarfs them up just so they can relist them and gouge
me for more money for them. But ... I also sell a few parts myself. Sometimes
I buy sets and then sell the figs and other parts I don't need, or even want
to
try something out and then decide it's not for me and decide to resell them.
So ... someone who listed parts I want for a project and blocked sellers would
also be blocking me. Why would I want that?
I say that if there are a few stores who are offending you by buying your
parts and reselling them for more money, then you can already deal with that
by blocking those particular stores. Why would you want to penalize all the
folks on BrickLink who sell to support their own building habit?
I vote no.
~SoftaRae
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| | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 09:22 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SoftaRae writes:
| | OK, so I've been frustrated when someone listed parts I need for a project
and then someone else scarfs them up just so they can relist them and gouge
me for more money for them. But ... I also sell a few parts myself.
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Most of the discussion here appears to be about parts. From my perspective, the
reseller issue has more to do with sets than with parts. Sets are being widely
resold on Amazon, minifigs to a small extent, parts are almost non-existent.
I'm not sure that I have ever seen an empty box or instructions listed over there
(although instructions are certainly being pushed up to ebay).
The core issue is: why are people buying here, to flip it upwards (pricewise)
elsewhere ?
Because the average buyer (not an AFOL, but possibly a parent of a KBOB) has
a hard time finding out that BL exists.
Get BL fully indexed on Google, Bing, et al.
Build in a fully operative end-to-end shopping cart (one that accepts payments
automatically).
Do those and you will take away (most of) the advantage of the flippers.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 18:06 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
[snip]
| | Get BL fully indexed on Google, Bing, et al.
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AGREE
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Build in a fully operative end-to-end shopping cart (one that accepts payments
automatically).
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AGREE, lets get BL into the current age of Internet technology!!
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Do those and you will take away (most of) the advantage of the flippers.
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I'm not sure this will happen, but these changes will go a long way toward helping.
I think there should be a big push for shopping carts and immediate payments.
Donna
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Reki_Lobsheek | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 18:15 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | Build in a fully operative end-to-end shopping cart (one that accepts payments
automatically).
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And how would you see this work in the Bricklink reality???? 
I find myself being frustrated time after time when invoicing before packing,
finding out that the package weight exceeds my estimates (for example due to
needing a bigger box than anticipated).
How would this "automated shopping cart" work then? What kind of shipping cost
would be linked to the ordered parts?
Don't forget Amazon works sort of with fixed shipping prices and Ebay works with
selling single items per auction.
The majority of sellers here are people like me: hobby sellers with no option
to set fixed shipping prices.
It's a nice dream, but that's all it is I'm afraid ... 
Reki
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 19:41 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Reki_Lobsheek writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | Build in a fully operative end-to-end shopping cart (one that accepts payments
automatically).
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And how would you see this work in the Bricklink reality????
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Here is one way:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=483403
I suggested this as an option some sellers could offer to some buyers. But it
can be made even more simple if some sellers opt to have all their buyers immediately
pay upon checkout. LS@H PaB can do this, so I see no reason BL cannot do this.
The trick is NOT to base shipping on package weight or dimensions. Instead, base
shipping - e.g. fixed, tiered or percentage - only on the value of the order.
This is how 99.999% of online stores (including LS@H when buying PaB) calculate
shipping. It is, of course, not entirely accurate in the sense that shipping
always equals the exact postage actually paid by the seller. Sometimes the actual
postage paid by a seller will be more and sometimes it will be less. Which is
already happening here, isn't it?
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 20:47 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | The trick is NOT to base shipping on package weight or dimensions.
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Unacceptable. Sorry but there is no other way I can put it. For sets, which are
one cardboard box inside of another cardboard box, with a few bit of ABS tossed
in for good measure, the ever increasing USPS rates will kill you. You must base
your rates on weight (and dimension in the case of very large sets). The market
price of a set does not bear a direct relationship to the cost of shipping.
What you describe *might* work for parts only orders, but not when it involves
new/sealed sets.
I could, at a minimum, live with a fixed shipping cost per unit per lot. That
way I could 'subsidize' my shipping cost partly within the cost of the set. That's
how I do it at the other site I sell at. It is an imperfect solution, but I've
found that I can live with it. Tho keep in mind that the 'fixed shipping cost
per unit per lot' would only be applicable to one destination (US in my case).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 18:42 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Build in a fully operative end-to-end shopping cart (one that accepts payments
automatically).
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That will never ever happen. In 99.9% of online stores out there, all items is
known in everything, from size to weight. In fact, in some cases, they even pre-pack
some objects so literally everything is set, just slap shipping label and ship
it.
Bricklink is unique to this fact... you can order in a billions of different
ways per store. Nothing can be "prepacked" in any extent, unless seller sets
a very rigid order system, like only one set per order or something.
This makes it worse, not all pieces weight is known properly. Not only that,
but not all shipping methods is known, especially if not in "well-known countries"
like usa, canada, uk, etc.
Other issue: Very large percent of online retailers ship from single spot. It
allows one to easily pre-calculate shipping to point of automating shipping quotes.
Bricklink ships from everywhere to everywhere. One cannot create such a system
that handles all that and create a shipping quote.
Yes, waiting for invoice sucks, but there is simply no known better way.
Also, the automated invoice system does not account of inventory errors, such
as missing parts, etc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 20:30 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rolf writes:
| | | | Build in a fully operative end-to-end shopping cart (one that accepts payments
automatically).
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That will never ever happen. In 99.9% of online stores out there, all items is
known in everything, from size to weight. In fact, in some cases, they even pre-pack
some objects so literally everything is set, just slap shipping label and ship
it.
Bricklink is unique to this fact... you can order in a billions of different
ways per store. Nothing can be "prepacked" in any extent, unless seller sets
a very rigid order system, like only one set per order or something.
This makes it worse, not all pieces weight is known properly. Not only that,
but not all shipping methods is known, especially if not in "well-known countries"
like usa, canada, uk, etc.
Other issue: Very large percent of online retailers ship from single spot. It
allows one to easily pre-calculate shipping to point of automating shipping quotes.
Bricklink ships from everywhere to everywhere. One cannot create such a system
that handles all that and create a shipping quote.
Yes, waiting for invoice sucks, but there is simply no known better way.
Also, the automated invoice system does not account of inventory errors, such
as missing parts, etc.
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I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | toontexas | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 20:48 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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Marc.
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But who is going to collect all the necessary data? Not just the shipping weights
and volumes of all the parts and sets etc., but also those of packing materials.
Then there are the 684 (give or take a few) national postal services and parcel
services like FedEx, each with their own rules and price standards. Sometimes
I can ship a set in a pre-used box, sometimes I will have to buy a new box to
ship it. How to account for that? And my bubble mailers might be cheaper than
yours....
So, taken all that into account, we need to collect a gazillion data entries.
Who is going to collect those? And who is going to check them for accuracy? And
who is going to write the software to implement this into Bricklink? Will this
person or company get paid for their work? And by whom? Bricklink? Does Bricklink.com
think that this would give them a good return on the investment? I sincerely
doubt it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, toontexas writes:
| | Does Bricklink.com think that this would give them a good return on the investment? I sincerely doubt it.
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Point 1 - having a fully operational end-to-end shopping cart system, one that
can accept payment when the order is placed, will make BL eligible for inclusion
on Google Products (f/k/a/ Froogle & Google Shopping) as a marketplace site.
Point 2 - it would greatly reduce the hassles and occurrence of NPB situations.
If the seller chooses to accept paper payments (check, MO, cash) you could still
have an NPB. The odds of getting one with electronic payment drop very close
to zero. Wouldn't you like to never have to return an order back to the parts
bins/drawers ?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | toontexas | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 22:29 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | Point 1 - having a fully operational end-to-end shopping cart system, one that
can accept payment when the order is placed, will make BL eligible for inclusion
on Google Products (f/k/a/ Froogle & Google Shopping) as a marketplace site.
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I admit that I hadn't thought of that. But will the demand be big enough so that
the expected ROI will be attractive enough?
| | Point 2 - it would greatly reduce the hassles and occurrence of NPB situations.
If the seller chooses to accept paper payments (check, MO, cash) you could still
have an NPB. The odds of getting one with electronic payment drop very close
to zero. Wouldn't you like to never have to return an order back to the parts
bins/drawers ?
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Rhetorical question. LOL
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:21 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, toontexas writes:
| | In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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But who is going to collect all the necessary data?
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The seller.
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and volumes of all the parts and sets etc., but also those of packing materials.
Then there are the 684 (give or take a few) national postal services and parcel
services like FedEx, each with their own rules and price standards. Sometimes
I can ship a set in a pre-used box, sometimes I will have to buy a new box to
ship it. How to account for that? And my bubble mailers might be cheaper than
yours....
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You can make it as complicated or as simple as you want, for your store.
While there may be 684 (it might just be 683, now that I think about it) different
shipping services, but most sellers would only use one or two of those. Even
if we were to implement the most extreme, highly detailed version of a full invoice
system, it wouldn't be as complicated as you think. There are really very few
criteria that would come into play. It's basically just size and weight. I can
get into further details on how that part might work, but I am not endorsing
(yet) this extreme case. I'd like to see BrickLink implement a way-point first.
Each seller would have the choice of opting in to the Full Invoice method. If
they do, they choose how the shipping works, based on whatever criteria are available
at the time of launch (I forsee this list growing in time). Let's say that, at
the very start, you can set up your shipping costs based on either cost, or weight.
Foster has described that he would likely set his up around cost. Fixed shipping
costs based on various cost ranges. He would fill out a form on BrickLink that
specifies each range, and he's done.
For me, I'd rather go with weight. So I would fill out a similar form, where
I specify weight ranges, and the cost to ship. I would do this for as many or
as few destinations as I want. (For myself, I would have one set of ranges for
Canada, one for the USA, and one for the rest of the world). When creating the
weight ranges, I would need to take the shipping materials into account.
From the buyer's perspective, here's what it would look like: You'd get to the
page right before submitting the order, and you would receive a shipping quote.
From here, you have two options: Accept the quote as given, or (if the seller
has opted in to this) request an individual shipping quote.
| | So, taken all that into account, we need to collect a gazillion data entries.
Who is going to collect those? And who is going to check them for accuracy? And
who is going to write the software to implement this into Bricklink? Will this
person or company get paid for their work? And by whom? Bricklink? Does Bricklink.com
think that this would give them a good return on the investment? I sincerely
doubt it.
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I don't. There would be some work involved, but it's not as much as you claim,
and it can be incremental.
Sellers would be responsible for ensuring accuracy. If you miscalculated your
weight ranged, you'll need to take the hit on that sale (and then fix your ranges!).
If you have an item in your store that doesn't have a weight listed ... weigh
it.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | toontexas | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 22:35 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fleury writes:
Now things become more clear to me. I was under the impression that BL would
have to collect all the data to set up this "packing and shipping cost" thingamabob.
It is of course much easier to write some code where the end user (= seller)
has to fill in some criteria to have the p&s cost determined. Please excuse my
ignorance, I'm not into IT.
Also the fact that a seller can choose to use this feature makes it a lot more
attractive to me. Thanks for the clarification!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 22:51 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, toontexas writes:
| | In Suggestions, fleury writes:
Now things become more clear to me. I was under the impression that BL would
have to collect all the data to set up this "packing and shipping cost" thingamabob.
It is of course much easier to write some code where the end user (= seller)
has to fill in some criteria to have the p&s cost determined. Please excuse my
ignorance, I'm not into IT.
Also the fact that a seller can choose to use this feature makes it a lot more
attractive to me. Thanks for the clarification!
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Indeed. Its much easier to provide framework. I was thinking that BL would have
to create and update all shipping methods so invoice can be automated.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | picabo | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, toontexas writes:
| | In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
--
Marc.
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But who is going to collect all the necessary data? Not just the shipping weights
and volumes of all the parts and sets etc., but also those of packing materials.
Then there are the 684 (give or take a few) national postal services and parcel
services like FedEx, each with their own rules and price standards. Sometimes
I can ship a set in a pre-used box, sometimes I will have to buy a new box to
ship it. How to account for that? And my bubble mailers might be cheaper than
yours....
So, taken all that into account, we need to collect a gazillion data entries.
Who is going to collect those? And who is going to check them for accuracy? And
who is going to write the software to implement this into Bricklink? Will this
person or company get paid for their work? And by whom? Bricklink? Does Bricklink.com
think that this would give them a good return on the investment? I sincerely
doubt it.
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What about a seller just starting out. My household tends to order a lot of
things online and as a result we save and stack the good different size boxes.
I purchased new different size bubble mailers but to have to have a "standard"
size box that complies with weights given would discourage me. Since most of
my orders are not that large to not reuse a box I already have, (if it's the
right size and not exceedingly heavy) would just cost me more. For example,
it was much cheaper for my last buyer, for me to go and find a used box for priority
mail, since it was too large for a small flat rate and really not big enough
for the medium. It only ended up costing him $.20 over the small flat rate.
And honestly, in most quantities boxes are expensive. You would probably have
to team up with another seller and try and split a larger order of boxes.
Just thoughts. Pam
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:31 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, picabo writes:
| | | | In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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| | What about a seller just starting out. My household tends to order a lot of
things online and as a result we save and stack the good different size boxes.
I purchased new different size bubble mailers but to have to have a "standard"
size box that complies with weights given would discourage me. Since most of
my orders are not that large to not reuse a box I already have, (if it's the
right size and not exceedingly heavy) would just cost me more. For example,
it was much cheaper for my last buyer, for me to go and find a used box for priority
mail, since it was too large for a small flat rate and really not big enough
for the medium. It only ended up costing him $.20 over the small flat rate.
And honestly, in most quantities boxes are expensive. You would probably have
to team up with another seller and try and split a larger order of boxes.
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You (the seller) could either not opt-in to the Full Invoice method, or you can
simply set up your criteria to take into account the "worst case scenario" (or
as close to it as you're willing to risk) for the weight/size of the packaging.
AND/OR, the buyer can opt-out of the Full Invoice method at check-out, and ask
for a personalized shipping quote.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | picabo | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 22:12 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | In Suggestions, picabo writes:
| | | | In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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| | What about a seller just starting out. My household tends to order a lot of
things online and as a result we save and stack the good different size boxes.
I purchased new different size bubble mailers but to have to have a "standard"
size box that complies with weights given would discourage me. Since most of
my orders are not that large to not reuse a box I already have, (if it's the
right size and not exceedingly heavy) would just cost me more. For example,
it was much cheaper for my last buyer, for me to go and find a used box for priority
mail, since it was too large for a small flat rate and really not big enough
for the medium. It only ended up costing him $.20 over the small flat rate.
And honestly, in most quantities boxes are expensive. You would probably have
to team up with another seller and try and split a larger order of boxes.
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You (the seller) could either not opt-in to the Full Invoice method, or you can
simply set up your criteria to take into account the "worst case scenario" (or
as close to it as you're willing to risk) for the weight/size of the packaging.
AND/OR, the buyer can opt-out of the Full Invoice method at check-out, and ask
for a personalized shipping quote.
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Marc.
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Sounds good--everyone's happy and has an option. And I'm sure that once I gain
experience I would probably opt-in eventually. Thanks for the clarification.
Pam
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 20:57 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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I think it could be implemented, but it's going to be a bit of work... and it
would require each seller to enter a list of what shipping containers they have
available (LxHxW plus tare-weight) [1]. The system would then have to use a volume-centric
method to determine which box would contain the items being ordered. That gets
a bit complicated when the shipping container is not a 3-dimensional rigid rectangular
box (hint: I'm referring to the wide variety of envelops that people seem to
be using).
And don't forget about void fill... depending on what you choose to use (styro-peanuts,
air-filled bags, crushed kraft paper, etc) it has a weight of it's own (not much,
but if it pushes it over to the next pound wt to zone-8, it adds up).
The problem is technically challenging, but not unsolvable.
[1] just to give a feel for the problem, I currently have 60+ unique box sizes
that I use for shipping. Some are USPS supplied, and require PM or EMS. Each
of those has it's own weight. A few require dimensional rate shipping.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | I have come to disagree with this. All of the issues you raise can be overcome.
Although I used to feel the same way that you do, for the same reasons, I don't
anymore. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to implement this
a system like this on BrickLink.
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I think it could be implemented, but it's going to be a bit of work... and it
would require each seller to enter a list of what shipping containers they have
available (LxHxW plus tare-weight) [1]. The system would then have to use a volume-centric
method to determine which box would contain the items being ordered. That gets
a bit complicated when the shipping container is not a 3-dimensional rigid rectangular
box (hint: I'm referring to the wide variety of envelops that people seem to
be using).
And don't forget about void fill... depending on what you choose to use (styro-peanuts,
air-filled bags, crushed kraft paper, etc) it has a weight of it's own (not much,
but if it pushes it over to the next pound wt to zone-8, it adds up).
The problem is technically challenging, but not unsolvable.
[1] just to give a feel for the problem, I currently have 60+ unique box sizes
that I use for shipping. Some are USPS supplied, and require PM or EMS. Each
of those has it's own weight. A few require dimensional rate shipping.
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That's just a start of problem scope. Not all countries have same shipping scheme.
And it's not consistent.. Germany and Usa both recently changes rates.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:27 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rolf writes:
| | That's just a start of problem scope. Not all countries have same shipping scheme.
And it's not consistent.. Germany and Usa both recently changes rates.
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Plenty of sellers already list specific prices for shipping based on the kinds
of criteria we're talking about. The fact that the criteria in Germany is different
than the US doesn't stop sellers in both countries from doing this already. And
those sellers sometimes need to update their listed costs when the rates change.
Nothing new there.
--
Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickmover | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 21:44 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fleury writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rolf writes:
| | That's just a start of problem scope. Not all countries have same shipping scheme.
And it's not consistent.. Germany and Usa both recently changes rates.
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Plenty of sellers already list specific prices for shipping based on the kinds
of criteria we're talking about. The fact that the criteria in Germany is different
than the US doesn't stop sellers in both countries from doing this already. And
those sellers sometimes need to update their listed costs when the rates change.
Nothing new there.
--
Marc.
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Agreed. This is really not terribly complicated. In my case I publish my weight/destination/shipping
method price tables on my store pages so people can see what they will be charged.
I have such a system in place. I would love to be able to pre-fill a form on
BL with similar criteria just to improve the process for the customer by making
this information become part of their checkout process.
Of course, the exact weight is not always known until the order is packed
and weighted (though from experience I can guess it in advance perfectly about
95% of the time). But the few times that it is off it means the buyer will be
over or undercharged maybe ten or twenty cents. I would also be happy to fill
out my form conservatively for the benefit of buyers so that they are consistently
charged correctly or are undercharged. To me it is worth losing an average of
a couple cents per order to create this added convenience and speed for both
me and the buyer.
There are other issues, like if parts turn out to be missing but payment has
already been made, or if items sold did not have a BL weight associated with
them. But as has already been said, it's the seller's responsibility to be on
top of these kinds of things. These tangential issues should not detract from
the benefit of such an option.
There may be sellers who prefer to use an incredibly complicated system that
makes ad hoc calculations an absolute must for them. That's their choice, but
let the rest of us at least have an invoice template with more conditional macro
tags finally. And then later on the complete start-to-end shopping cart to payment
thing, when BL is ready for that.
Matt
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| | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:20 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller.
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I would vote yes for the suggestion purely for the selfish reasons that you describe
in the rest of your post.
However, who would actually use this feature? I know that I've seen a couple
of sellers state that they don't want to sell to resellers, but does that actually
mean that they don't want to sell to anyone with a store?
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Marc.
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| | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:25 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I would vote yes, as choices are good, and any seller fool enough to do this,
deserves to lose the business.
I am guessing that most buyers, who are also sellers, are not buying to re-sell,
but for their own building.
Buying just to re-sell seems a bit silly, except in cases of super clearances
(which are usually store closures).
In these cases, the seller is not likely to block other sellers anyway.
If someone really does not want to sell to re-sellers, blocking them is not really
going to prevent them from doing so.
I can buy here and re-sell on eBay or somewhere else.
I can partner with someone (like a spouse, sibling, parent) and then they can
buy here, while I sell here.
But if the ability to block sellers is implemented,
how about the ability to block sellers who have for sale, the very item they
are buying?
I would vote yes on that as well.
But when it came to prioritizing of changes to implement, either of these would
probably fall as priority low, and then last on the low list.
(And if it is anything like where I work, prioritized as low, and last on the
low list, means probably will not happen).
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:28 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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I choose not to vote on this. As a buyer and a seller, I would not vote for something
that would limit what I could buy. As others have said, I sometimes buy parts
for a project, and never finish the project. I do know there are sellers out
there that do not want to sell to resellers, and I understand that. I guess they
can vote as they please .
Darren
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| | | | | Author: | AndersPaludan | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:33 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| How unamerican!
A frontal attack on the free market.
Next thing you'll be suggesting fixed prices
set by a central commitee or what?
But seriously:
All a reseller would have to do to circumvent this,
would be to have their spouse open a buyer account.
Anders
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_87297 | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:46 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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I am not sure why some people don't want to sell to resellers besides the possibility
of them being more likely to complain if the box has a little piece of dust on
it . I have seen some however so theres nothing wrong with having this option.
I don't know why anyone would really have a problem with having this option either,
it is just another freedom for everyone to have and you can't EVER have too many
of those in todays world where they are all being taken away .
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:53 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, 1StopBrickShop writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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I am not sure why some people don't want to sell to resellers besides the possibility
of them being more likely to complain if the box has a little piece of dust on
it . I have seen some however so theres nothing wrong with having this option.
I don't know why anyone would really have a problem with having this option either,
it is just another freedom for everyone to have and you can't EVER have too many
of those in todays world where they are all being taken away .
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I agree and I have no opinion on this option, doesn't affect me in the least.
I will sell to anyone who pays, can't get much simpler than that. What they
do with what they buy is their business, not mine.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 22:53 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| No... for a couple of reasons.
1) You did say that it'll be rarely used, but probably it is too rare to implement.
And limiting sales is probably not what bricklink wants.
2) It also increases pressure to create another non-seller account. There probably
will be twice as many "sibling" or "wife/husband" buying accounts.
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| | | | | Author: | Boomers | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 23:09 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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What would stop someone from opening a second account being a buyer account and
then listing the parts on their seller account? Am I missing something?
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2011 23:15 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
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erm ... It would have a minimal impact (if any).
1. most of the reseller buying on BL is bound for sites outside of BL (Amazon,
et al). Many of those BL accounts simply says 'Buyer'.
2. I remember one BL seller, who was operating two accounts. One for buying and
one for selling. I reported it back then, but nothing came of my report.
I think your idea has merit, but I think the ability to control it from a system
perspective would not achieve the desired result. The issues surrounding the
1099-MISC might change my view tho.
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| | | | | Author: | LEGOMASTER | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 02:35 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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I have to vote 'NO'.
This is a free market site.... a international site. Yes, it is a private own
site. But to reject or denied or blocking someone to buy something and resell
it on BL. Is not helpful to the 'community'. I can see where someone 'needed'
part for their 'custom' moc to sell on Bricklink. What if someone has 3 of
4 minifigs and there is only one store who has the fourth. But that store will
not sell it, because he/she gonna resell it on BL. Or lives in a state you might
not like. It can really be any bad customer service reason.
(I am starting to get annoyed to see the 'nick-pick' suggestions on Bricklink.
The more I see and read the more I think of the USA Tax Code and Credit Card
companies... fine print.)
I suggest a 30 day stop to no more suggestion until all the other suggestions
have been added or deleted by the Admin.
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| | | | | | | Author: | bb237355 | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 03:22 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Without reading all the posts I will state that if I was a reseller, to keep
from being 'blocked', I would simply create a separate account and as many as
needed.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | LaineeP | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 05:43 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mr.mikemccall writes:
| | Without reading all the posts I will state that if I was a reseller, to keep
from being 'blocked', I would simply create a separate account and as many as
needed.
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Duplicate accounts are not allowed. Better read the TOS.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 09:08 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, LaineeP writes:
| | In Suggestions, mr.mikemccall writes:
| | Without reading all the posts I will state that if I was a reseller, to keep
from being 'blocked', I would simply create a separate account and as many as
needed.
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Duplicate accounts are not allowed. Better read the TOS.
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Duplicate accounts may not be allowed, but enforcement of that in the past has
been uneven. There have been documented cases where the report was ignored. Enforcement
of this appears to be limited to those situations where the buyer was deliberately
using multiple accounts to cause trouble and/or evade stoplists.
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| | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 04:36 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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I can understand why a seller would have reasons to block a specific user. I
cannot understand why a business would want to block all other businesses. If
this would happen then there would be no sellers of new Lego on BL as they have
to get stock from other businesses. OK you could via this suggestion block other
sellers on BL but would be happy to sell to sellers that sell elsewhere Anyway
if a BL seller wanted some of your stuff he could buy if via "a friend's" account
which was registered as a buyer only, treating you and the system as a fool.
This suggestion has no value to BL as a whole and is simply unwokable IMO.
Robert
(resellers VERY welcome)
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| | | | | Author: | jemmid | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 05:49 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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Definetly NO,
but every seller has the option to put members on his StopList (see HelpTopics)
Cheers
Jan-Eric
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| | | | | Author: | bagelboybugle | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 07:27 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
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I vote No because I disagree with this particular sentiment, while yes as a seller
who would never dream of using such a pathetic discriminatory feature I may gain
more business from it, I do believe that because it will appear potentially petty,
pathetic and childish, it will be bad PR for the site as a whole and any gains
by moving customers to my store will be balanced out by lost business in the
form of newcomers who choose not to buy anything anywhere.
G
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_8789 | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 11:14 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Now that I've been demoted to plain old Buyer again, since Im not allowed to
resell LEGO anyway as well as no longer have the desire to do so. SURE! 
It only means that I and ACTUAL END USERS will be able to get super cheap parts
and build with them!
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I WILL NOT USE THIS OPTION MYSELF, but I know there are some sellers here who
do not like to sell to resellers. Thus, I suggest they be given the OPTION to
block and not receive orders from any buyers who are also registered as a BL
seller. This could be coded as simply as blocking international orders or orders
from certain countries.
Now before you scoff and scream NO!, think about this for a minute. I won't use
this and most of you won't use this, so there is no harm giving this option to
those who want it. Not only is there no harm, there is actually a possible BENEFIT
to you if some sellers exercise this option. Most orders they block will just
be placed with another seller who has no such restriction - perhaps even YOU.
And before you talk about potential buyer confusion and frustration, keep in
mind that sellers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable about BrickLink
and the variety of sellers and terms here than buyers-only.
Just a thought. Tear it to shreds if you like. Me... it won't bother me either
way. I will happily sell to resellers if others won't. If more resellers find
their supply becoming limited, maybe more will come to me.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | beelzibus | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 16:52 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I'm sure I'm not the only person who buys parts on BL to complete old sets and
then lists the sets for sale on BL.
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| | | | | | | Author: | legomadsteve | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2011 20:47 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Block Orders from Sellers | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, beelzibus writes:
| | I'm sure I'm not the only person who buys parts on BL to complete old sets and
then lists the sets for sale on BL.
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That's what I was thinking.
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