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Thanks for reporting this and for the hint.
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Hi StormChaser,

thanks for taking part in the discussion and for explaining us the reasons of
this rejection, I perfectly understand that first of all you Admins want to get
your guidelines figured out before taking some decisions, but from your words
I suspect these guidelines will become more and more restrictive, and this fact
scares me enough: how could more restrictive guidelines help the catalogue to
become more precise and accurate?
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 Posted: Jun 16, 2020 02:20
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 555-2
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I realized I probably made a mistake in my inventory change request concerning
bricks 3002, both yellow and blue: the pictures I added prove that the old version
was included in that set, on the contrary I do not think the modern version (with
cross supports) was at all. As a reference for this fact please consider the
Basic set 366-1:

 
Set No: 366  Name: Basic Set
* 
366-1 (Inv) Basic Set
166 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

which was produced in the same period (1981-1984).
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I add a more detailed picture of the same set.
 
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I add a more detailed picture of the same set.
 
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In the pictures of this MISB set you can see all the mentioned bricks in their
old version; the old version was included in early releases of the set, while
the version with cross supports was included in later releases.
 




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In the pictures of this MIB set (box opened but content still sealed in the bags)
you can see: blue bricks 3002old; blue bricks 3001 (with cross supports); a white
brick 3001old; a yellow brick 3002old; yellow bricks 3001old.
 




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In the pictures of this MISB set you can see a yellow brick 3001 and a yellow
brick 3002old.
 






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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 555  Name: Basic Set
* 
555-2 (Inv) Basic Set
190 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 4 Part 3002old Blue Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 3001old Blue Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 3001old White Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports (match ID 3)
* Add 4 Part 3002old Yellow Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 8 Part 3001old Yellow Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports (match ID 5)
* Change 4 Part Blue 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Blue 3001 Brick 2 x 4 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part White 3001 Brick 2 x 4 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 4 Part Yellow 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 8 Part Yellow 3001 Brick 2 x 4 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}

Comments from Submitter:
I'm going to add some clarifying pictures of different MISB sets.
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While these are the pictures from the 1981 Italian Catalogue 93.100-I.
 




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These are the pictures from the 1980 Italian Catalogue 106178/106278-EU III (Aus/I).
 




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Reza I believe that Service packs 1104-1 and 1104-2 should be merged too, I really
don't know why they have been divided so far (maybe because of the wire's
color, white for 1104-1, grey for 1104-2?). As a prove take a look at the pictures
of this other Service pack 1104-2: there is the double copyright 1977/82.
 






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Here is the picture of a sealed Service pack including the requested wires.
 
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1104  Name: 4.5V Motor Battery Cables, 14 and 94 Studs (10 and 75cm) Long
* 
1104-1 (Inv) 4.5V Motor Battery Cables, 14 and 94 Studs (10 and 75cm) Long
2 Parts, 1977
Sets: Service Packs

* Add 1 Part 765c14 White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 4 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part 765c96 White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 2)

Comments from Submitter:
These wires were included in some releases of that Service pack too. I'm going to add a picture of a sealed set coming with them.
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Here is the picture of a sealed Service pack including the requested wires.
 
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1104  Name: 4.5V Motor Battery Cables, 14 and 94 Studs (10 and 75cm) Long
* 
1104-1 (Inv) 4.5V Motor Battery Cables, 14 and 94 Studs (10 and 75cm) Long
2 Parts, 1977
Sets: Service Packs

* Add 1 Part bb0081c14 White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 2 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 2-Way Male Squared Narrow Long without Center Post (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part bb0081c96 White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two 2-prong connectors without middle pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part White bb0141ac14 Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 2 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 2-Way Male Rounded Narrow Type 1 with Cross-Cut Pins {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 1 Part White bb0141ac96 Electric, Wire 4.5V with two light gray 2-prong Type 1 connectors, 96 Studs Long {match ID 0 to 2}

Comments from Submitter:
These alternate parts were included in later releases of that Service pack. I'm going to add a picture of a sealed one.
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Hi everybody,

I just would like to support Reza's point of view concerning that addition
to the Catalogue, I don't have anything to add about it, he and Evans already
explained well enough why it should be done.
I really can't understand why it was rejected, at most twice, so please could
any catalogue Admin take part in this discussion and explain us the reasons of
this decision?
Thanks,

lego.12vtrains
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 Posted: Jan 17, 2020 11:53
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Here below I attach 2 pictures of a sealed bag coming from set 6302.
 


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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6302  Name: Mini-Figure Set
* 
6302-1 (Inv) Mini-Figure Set
7 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 1982
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Supplemental

* Add 1 Part 3070b Yellow Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
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I also know how important for you this one is, so I'm very happy that this
day arrived! Now your determination and tenacity are honoured!
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For completeness here below I attach the photo of the back of the same MISB Service
Pack coming with part 4093c.
 
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Hello guys,

Reza you are not completely right: here in Italy (and I think in other countries
too) the set 7838 was sold in markets until the end of 1985, as a proof I attach
below the pictures from the 1985 Large Italian catalogue (94350-I).
So there is a very good chance that both part 4275 and 4276 were included in
this set as alternate parts.
 






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I attach other details.
 


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Here below I attach the photos of a MISB set: you can clearly recognize the white
brick 3001 with cross supports; the red brick 3001 with cross supports is a bit
more hardly recognizable, but it is there.
 










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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 366  Name: Basic Set
* 
366-1 (Inv) Basic Set
166 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 8 Part 3001 Red Brick 2 x 4 (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Add 8 Part 3001 White Brick 2 x 4 (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 8 Part Red 3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 8 Part White 3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports {match ID 0 to 4}

Comments from Submitter:
I'm going to add some photos of a MISB set that can confirm the presence of these alternate parts.
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Here below I attach the photo of a MISB Service Pack coming with part 4093c (6
round holes each end).
 
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5072  Name: Wagonplate, 6 x 28 Studs
* 
5072-1 (Inv) Wagonplate, 6 x 28 Studs
1 Part, 1987
Sets: Service Packs: Train

* Add 1 Part 4093c Black Train Base 6 x 28 with 6 Round Holes Each End (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Black 4093b Train Base 6 x 28 with 10 Round Holes Each End {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
The train baseplate 4093c (6 round holes) was included in the later releases of this Service Pack in place of the baseplate 4093b (10 round holes). I'm going to add a photo of a MISB bag that can confirm this fact.
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Here below I attach the pictures of a MISB Service pack 5005, you can clearly
recognize the paper 113582-D/F/I.
 




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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5005  Name: Battery Box 4.5V, Gray
* 
5005-1 (Inv) Battery Box 4.5V, Gray
2 Parts, 1987
Sets: Service Packs

* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I
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Here below I attach the pictures of my set. The box still has the cellophane
(I carefully cut it in one side to be able to open it). The content (3795+3034+4166)
was not packaged in a bag.
 






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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7856  Name: Left and Right Manual Points with Electric Rails
* 
7856-1 (Inv) Left and Right Manual Points with Electric Rails
16 Parts, 1980
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 12V

* Add 1 Part 3795 Dark Gray Plate 2 x 6 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3034 Dark Gray Plate 2 x 8 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4166 Dark Gray Train, Track Sleeper Plate 2 x 8 with Cable Grooves (Extra)

Comments from Submitter:
I recently bought a sealed set that I opened, and those parts were included in it.
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Here below 3 pictures from an eBay auction in which the 2 papers can be seen.
 




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You can see and example of 2 MISB sets here:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=359940
 
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These 2 papers are included in my copy of set 744, please see the attached photos.
 










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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 744  Name: Universal Building Set
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744-1 (Inv) Universal Building Set
542 Parts, 1980
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 191528 (Not Applicable) Batteries Information Sheet
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I
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I checked both the instructions and the pictures on the box, it is not 100% clear
but it seems like the sticker has to be attacked on both sides of the timetable,
so the sticker part is correct.
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I have owned a copy of 7740 since 1984, and I remember dismantling it to build
the alternative model only once... Of course that sticker got a little perished
in doing so... That's why TLG included two copy of it in the sticker sheet!

Morris
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Great Reza! Here is the picture taken from the instructions, that shows step
5.
 
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Here below the third example a second hand set with weight 73090b.
 


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Here below 2 pictures of another second hand set with part 73090b.
 


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Here below 2 pictures of a second hand set (one weight can be clearly recognized
on the back of the locomotive).
 


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The set 7735 was produced between 1985 and 1990, the part 73090b appeared first
in sets in 1987, so in the first production runs (1985-1987) part 73090a was
included, while in the late production runs (1987-1990) part 73090b was included.
The inventory of set 7865 consider this alternative too.
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The inventory of set 7865 is correct! From 1980 to 1987 part 73090a was included
in it, while after 1987 you could find part 73090b in it.
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7735  Name: Freight Train
* 
7735-1 (Inv) Freight Train
492 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 2 Part 73090b Red Boat Weight 2 x 6 x 2 - Bottom Sealed, Dimple on Ends (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 2 Part Red 73090a Train Weight 2 x 6 x 2 - Bottom Openings, Center Seam on Ends {match ID 0 to 3}
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On the other hand, here below an example of a second hand set with part 73090a.
 


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Here below 2 pictures of a second hand set (one weight can be clearly recognized
between the 2 black windows).
 


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Here below 3 pictures of a MISB set; the motor is dated 45 8 (45th week of 1988).
 




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The set 7745 was produced between 1985 and 1990, the part 73090b appeared first
in sets in 1987, so in the first production runs (1985-1987) part 73090a was
included, while in the late production runs (1987-1990) part 73090b was included.
The inventory of set 7865 consider this alternative too.
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
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7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 2 Part 73090b Black Boat Weight 2 x 6 x 2 - Bottom Sealed, Dimple on Ends (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 2 Part Black 73090a Train Weight 2 x 6 x 2 - Bottom Openings, Center Seam on Ends {match ID 0 to 5}
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And here below a picture of another sealed set: the wires clearly came assembled.
 
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Hello guys, sorry for the late reply, here below a picture of a sealed set.
 
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And here below some pictures of another different set.
 




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Here below some pictures of a typical set.
 




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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7725  Name: Electric Passenger Train
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7725-1 (Inv) Electric Passenger Train
483 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1981
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (Alternate) (match ID 2)

Comments from Submitter:
Special suppressor rail 3241c was always accompanied and packed with the paper 117983a, please see the inventory of sets 7730, 7740 and 7727.
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Hello,

here below some pictures of another set in very good conditions. That cable is
there.
 




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Hello,

here below some pictures of another set in very good conditions. That cable is
there; motor is dated 13 82.
 






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Hello,

I support SezaR point of view and confirm that cable 765c96 is included in my
copy of 7740 that I've owned since my childhood (1984); I also add that I've
never had transformer 7864, I used a custom transformer made by my father's
friend and connected it to the track using that wire.
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Here below I attach pictures of 8 different sealed Service packs: you can clearly
see that the paper 117983b is included in none of them.
 














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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5063  Name: Power Supply Rail
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5063-1 (Inv) Power Supply Rail
1 Part, 1987
Sets: Service Packs: Train

* Delete 1 Part 117983b (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983
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I perfectly agree with CrazyChris!
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Also in the second set owned by BLUXE 10 trainrims are included, and the configuration
is the same, 4 are applied to the motor, while the other 6 are sealed in a bag,
see the attached photos.
 




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As far as we can see from the pictures provided by BLUXE, in the first set 10
trainrims are included, 4 of them are applied to the motor, the other 6 are sealed
in a bag, see the attached photos.
 




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And here below some pictures (still provided by BLUXE) of another MIB set.
 






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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
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7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part 3001 Black Brick 2 x 4
* Add 1 Part 3001old Black Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* Delete 4 Part 3001 Red Brick 2 x 4
* Add 4 Part 3001old Red Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports

Comments from Submitter:
There is a very small chance that modern bricks 3001 were included in this set produced in 1980-1982, but I have no proof of this fact.
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  
  The normal version 3241c without these reinforcements is NOT approprioate for

7735 and 7745

In what sense it is not appropriate? do you mean 7735 didn't come with 3241c
but only with 3241c+?
By the way, I am not sure BL accept to split 3241c.

Yes Reza, I am quite sure that both 7735 and 7745 came only with 3241c+.
If BL accept to split 3241c, they also have to split 3241 and 3241b, as shown
in the pictures provided by CrazyChris.
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I strongly support CrazyChris point of view!
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Hello guys,

here below 2 pictures of comparison between part 3241c and part 3241c+
 


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Here below 2 pictures of an opened (and incomplete) polybag from an Ebay auction:
the part x461b can be clearly recognized.
 


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I agree, and sorry once again for the mistake!
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Dear Reza,
thanks once again for your clarification.
I noticed that the motor could not be right, but I didn't asked further information
to the seller.
So sorry If I did a wrong Inventory change request!
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I read all the inventory change requests concerning the 12v motors done by member
SezaR during the last months (set 7730, 7750, 7760, 7725, 7727, 7755, 7735, 7745,
7865, 5086), I strongly confirm his point of view and I hope that soon BL Inventory
will introduce the new subdivision between 4 Types of motor!

However there are some exceptions…

Here below I attach 3 pictures of a MIB 7727, found in an Ebay auction 2 months
ago: you can clearly recognize a Type 1 motor (bb12Va) from 1980, even if the
set comes from 1983 (see the 1983 train catalogue included)!!!
Quite surely Lego had some old red motors in his stock and used them in some
copies of 7727…
 




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Set No: 7727  Name: Freight Steam Train
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7727-1 (Inv) Freight Steam Train
551 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 1 Part bb12va Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type I with 2 round contact holes (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Red bb12vb Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type II with 3 round contact holes {match ID 0 to 1}
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In my set there is only the following "parents" catalog from 1981 (I was able
to read the code 109782/109882 EU II (D/A/CH/F/I) through the transparent plastic
cover):

 
Catalog No: c81eupg  Name: 1981 Für Eltern / Pour les parents / Per i genitori (Parents Guide) (109782/109882 EU II (D/A/CH/F/I))
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c81eupg 1981 Für Eltern / Pour les parents / Per i genitori (Parents Guide) (109782/109882 EU II (D/A/CH/F/I))
Catalogs: 1981

No catalogue from 1982. I think that my set comes from the very first edition
of the year 1981, while Stefaan's one is from the next year 1982.

During the early 80's there was the transition period from old type to modern
type bricks, so it is possible to find both types mixed together.
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I confirm, the blue bricks 2 x 4 included in my set are WITHOUT inside supports.
Take a look at the picture.
 
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You can clearly recognize the two bricks 4 x 12 (one red and one blue), but apparently
there is no yellow brick 4 x 12.
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And here are the pictures of the content. Please ask if you need some more pictures.
 














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Hi, sorry for the late reply, here are the pictures of the box.
 












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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 366  Name: Basic Set
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366-1 (Inv) Basic Set
166 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Delete 1 Part 4202 Yellow Brick 4 x 12

Comments from Submitter:
I owned this Basic set when I was a child and I don't remember this part was included.
I recently bought it again in MISB condition and I really can't see this part into the box. The pictures on the box don't show it too.
If you need I will upload explaining pictures.
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And here's a picture of a late eighties version with 3242b (notice the 1989
version of the box).
 
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Here's two pictures of a middle-eighties version with 3242d.
 


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P.S. The box shown in the pictures is dated 1981, as the 1981 mini train catalogue
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Elias is right, 7860 came out at least at first (1980-1981) with 3242a, then
it was replaced with 3242d, and finally at the end of the eighties with 3242b.
Take a look at the attached pictures, in particular the front and back of the
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Please look at the picture below.
 
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
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7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 2 Part 3940b Light Gray Support 2 x 2 x 2 Stand with Complete Hole (Alternate) (match ID 9)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3940a Support 2 x 2 x 2 Stand with Blind Hole {match ID 0 to 9}

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2 x Light Gray Support 2 x 2 x 2 Stand with Complete Hole (part id 3940b) are included in my 7740-1 that I have owned since 1984 (so a later version).
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As it has been discussed here:

http://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=182644

when 7727 appeared (1983), it was a standard to include a conducting rail curved,
interference-free (part id 3241c) in 12V Train sets of that period.
The pictures below, founded in the web, can show this fact (the 3241c can be
recognized on the bottom).

As far as the 2731a Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector
is concerned, it was an improvement of 3241c and probably started to appear in
1985 in sets 7745 and 7735, not before, so it could not be included in 7727 which
was produced until 1984.
 


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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7727  Name: Freight Steam Train
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551 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part 2731a Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector
* Add 1 Part 3241c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
* Add 1 Part 117983 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
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Sorry for hijacking this thread, but can you tell which type of conducting rail
straight are included in your sealed set?
Conducting rail straight with connection holes (part id 3242) or conducting rail
straight without connection holes (part id 3242c)?

Another question: I think that in your set a catalogue was also included, can
you tell the year of the catalogue?

Thanks!
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As it has been discussed here:

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almost surely, as it happened to the 7740, the 7730 appeared at least at first
(1980) with 16 curved rails 3241b without connection holes.

Almost surely the evolution of the track was the same too, i.e. in the mid-late
production runs (1981-1982) the 16 curved rails 3241b without connection holes
were substituted by 15 curved rails 3241 with connection holes + 1 curved rail
3241c interference-free + 1 Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail
- 117983 . (Please look at the picture below founded in the web: on the bottom
we can clearly recognize the Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail
- 117983)

As far as the 2731a Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector
is concerned, as it has been discussed here:

http://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=182644

just because the 7730 was produced until 1982 and not until 1984, the chance
that this part was in the set is still slighter. (2731a was an improvement of
3241c and probably appeared in 1985, not before).
 
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7730  Name: Electric Goods Train
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7730-1 (Inv) Electric Goods Train
511 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part 2731a Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector
* Add 16 Part 3241b Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable Connection Holes (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3241c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 117983 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 15 Part Light Gray 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 2}
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In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
  I have found some other evidence that the curved track may have had connections
as early as 1981.

I am reaching the same conclusion!

  It comes from a track layout diagram, and not the actual track
pieces. If you look at the peeron instruction scans for set 7860, on page 6
the diagram shows the connection at the curved section. The date on the instruction
can be seen on the advertising page with the switches.

This is still questionable, because I also have diagrams on my (D/A/CH/B/NL)
instruction sheet from 1981 for the Universal Transformer that show the connection
to a straight track. These instructions are different from the peeron ones for
7864-1, and show how to use the transformer with various sets, including set
7860.

It is true but, even if the instruction scans show the date 1981, I am quite
sure that it is a mid-late 80s version: if you look on the other pages you can
clearly see the 2 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight for 12v
Signal with Rail Interruption at End (part number 3242b), and they were only
included in the mid-late 80s sets (according to the BL catalogue they appear
as alternate items).

Anyway there are 2 facts that lead me to the conclusion that the curved track
may have had connections as early as 1981.

The first.
Some months ago I bought a 7855 sealed set, a very early version because a 1981
Mini Train European catalogue (EU II 111583) was included in that box, and all
the curved rails have the connection holes! (See pictures 1-2 below)

The second.
In 1981 the 7725 appeared. As confirmed by the BL inventory and also by one picture
in the internal box (see picture 3 below), no straight rail was included in that
set, so they had to find out a new way to bring electricity to the track... And
I think that the answer was to make the curved rails with connection holes!

As far as the suppressor rail 3241c is concerned, I don't know if it appeared
at the same time of the curved rails with connection holes, or if it was an improvement
of the following years...

  I'm still gathering info and will keep you posted.
Thea
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In Inventories Requests, lego.12vtrains writes:
  Hi Thea,

thank you very much for your contribution!

In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
  In Inventories Requests, lego.12vtrains writes:
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Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
* 
7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 16 Part 3241 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved (match ID 1)
* Add 16 Part 3241b Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable Connection Holes (match ID 1)

I had missed the earlier thread about the 12v curved track. After reading it
I pulled out some of my old catalogues and checked the 2nd edition Collectors
Guide.
Set 7740-1 is shown as 1980-86 in the Guide.

I looked at a 1983 train catalog, (D/A/CH/F/I)100782/100882. On page 8, set 7725
box picture, just in front of the wheels of the engine on a curved track, there
is a hole in the curved track.

So a curved track with connections was available BEFORE set 7740-1 went out of
production. Some later sets may have contained the newer track. Or the section
that I can see may be the track with the suppressor and there is only 1 curved
section with the connection in the set.

I agree with you, it is clear that in 1983 the curved rails were with cable connection
holes; the are some more pictures that can confirm it.
Probably the year 1982 was the key point in which things started to change, but
I'm not 100% sure about this: on the next days I'm going to make a general
summary with pictures and post it here, but I need some time to prepare it.

  As mentioned, we are far removed from the time these trains were available.
All the 12v tracks from all my 12v sets have been intermingled for many years,
so I can't give a definitive answer from my own collection.

Mold numbers printed on the bottom of the rails could help you to date them.

  To cover all possibilities, I think 16 of the 3241b should be listed in the inventory, with
3241 and 3241c as alternates.

I will try to find out more information about the 3241c.

It would be important to understand in which year ( 1982 ?? ) 3241c started to
appear!

  As for both 2731 with the attached wires, I disliked them so much because of the fixed wire, I either
gave them away or buried them in some box I haven't opened in years.

Thea
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Please take a look at this sealed set here:

http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=DiMarco&itemID=75543794

If we enlarge one of the pictures uploaded by the seller we can clearly recognize
the 4166 sleepers with cable grooves.
I think he can confirm this fact.
 
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7725  Name: Electric Passenger Train
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7725-1 (Inv) Electric Passenger Train
483 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1981
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 32 Part 4166 Dark Gray Train, Track Sleeper Plate 2 x 8 with Cable Grooves (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 32 Part Dark Gray 767 Train, Track Sleeper Plate 2 x 8 without Cable Grooves {match ID 0 to 1}
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Hi Thea,

thank you very much for your contribution!

In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
  In Inventories Requests, lego.12vtrains writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
* 
7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 16 Part 3241 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved (match ID 1)
* Add 16 Part 3241b Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable Connection Holes (match ID 1)

I had missed the earlier thread about the 12v curved track. After reading it
I pulled out some of my old catalogues and checked the 2nd edition Collectors
Guide.
Set 7740-1 is shown as 1980-86 in the Guide.

I looked at a 1983 train catalog, (D/A/CH/F/I)100782/100882. On page 8, set 7725
box picture, just in front of the wheels of the engine on a curved track, there
is a hole in the curved track.

So a curved track with connections was available BEFORE set 7740-1 went out of
production. Some later sets may have contained the newer track. Or the section
that I can see may be the track with the suppressor and there is only 1 curved
section with the connection in the set.

I agree with you, it is clear that in 1983 the curved rails were with cable connection
holes; the are some more pictures that can confirm it.
Probably the year 1982 was the key point in which things started to change, but
I'm not 100% sure about this: on the next days I'm going to make a general
summary with pictures and post it here, but I need some time to prepare it.

  As mentioned, we are far removed from the time these trains were available.
All the 12v tracks from all my 12v sets have been intermingled for many years,
so I can't give a definitive answer from my own collection.

Mold numbers printed on the bottom of the rails could help you to date them.

  To cover all possibilities, I think 16 of the 3241b should be listed in the inventory, with
3241 and 3241c as alternates.

I will try to find out more information about the 3241c.

It would be important to understand in which year ( 1982 ?? ) 3241c started to
appear!

  As for both 2731 with the attached wires, I disliked them so much because of the fixed wire, I either
gave them away or buried them in some box I haven't opened in years.

Thea
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Here below some images from 3 other sets (pictures 1-2: set D; pictures 3-4-5:
set E; pictures 6-7-8: set F).
 














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As viejos explains here:

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at least at first power connections were only made on straight rails.

Images on the 1980 train catalogue would confirm this fact.

Searching on the web during the last months I found a lot of pictures which would
also be a confirmation.
Here below some images from 3 different sets (pictures 1-2: set A; pictures 3-4:
set B; pictures 5-6-7: set C).
 












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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
* 
7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 16 Part 3241 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved (match ID 1)
* Add 16 Part 3241b Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable Connection Holes (match ID 1)
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The pictures below clearly show that 08018bc01 White Electric, Light Brick 12V
2 x 2 with 3 Plug Holes, Trans-Clear Diffuser Lens could be included in that
Service pack in place of 08010ac01 White Electric, Light Brick 12V 2 x 2 with
2 Plug Holes, Trans-Clear Smooth Lens.
 


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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1140  Name: 12V Light Bricks
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1140-1 (Inv) 12V Light Bricks
2 Parts, 1981
Sets: Service Packs

* Add 2 Part 08010bc01 White Electric, Light Brick 12V 2 x 2 with 3 Plug Holes, Trans-Clear Diffuser Lens (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part White 08010ac01 Electric, Light Brick 12V 2 x 2 with 2 Plug Holes, Trans-Clear Smooth Lens {match ID 0 to 1}

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