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 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 22:35
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runner.caller (2637)

Location:  USA, South Dakota
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

I didn't even notice that they did that because I never clicked on the links.

Why draw more attention to it?

"Why draw more attention to it?" Presupposes something to hide. I didn't
think there was, did you? No, I continue to be my overly-nosey self, is all.

What a strange question, though.

Yes, questioning the links in such a “gotcha” tone on a public forum was indeed
strange.
Or at least a strange display of drama seeking.
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 22:19
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

I didn't even notice that they did that because I never clicked on the links.

Why draw more attention to it?

"Why draw more attention to it?" Presupposes something to hide. I didn't
think there was, did you? No, I continue to be my overly-nosey self, is all.

What a strange question, though.

A strange question sparked by a trivial observation.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 16:56
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

I didn't even notice that they did that because I never clicked on the links.

Why draw more attention to it?

"Why draw more attention to it?" Presupposes something to hide. I didn't
think there was, did you? No, I continue to be my overly-nosey self, is all.

What a strange question, though.
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 16:05
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

 
Minifig No: col155  Name: Sad Clown, Series 10 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
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col155 (Inv) Sad Clown, Series 10 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
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 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

I didn't even notice that they did that because I never clicked on the links.

Why draw more attention to it?
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 15:07
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Adjour (2449)

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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php


These are spectacular. I would love to have such skills.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 11:55
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:

  randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

What I meant to say was that the part comes as one complete unit in the sets
directly from LEGO and is counted as one part by LEGO. There is no need to assemble
it, and it is not meant to be disassembled. I was rushing through messages before,
so I didn't explain it well enough.

Cheers,
Randy

That makes sense. I did have a strong suspicion that the parts came pre-assembled
in sets, since that chassis is a juniorized part (for young kids), and the precise
force that would be required to put the 2X2 modified plates on the underside
looked like something that would take adult level effort.

Thanks,
David
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Catalog, legoman77 writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Ouch! They are two good guys. That is the nicest you can be?

Thanks, John.

Russell may be a good guy, but what are you trying to do, ruin my hard-earned
reputation! I've been working on how many ignore lists I can get onto, I
was doing good

I like picturing all those using the ignore feature, covering their ears and
chanting la la la la la
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 10:07
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In Catalog, Captain_Q writes:
  In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.


In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Mfav (Mark) has been suspended from the forum so we will not know.


Hopefully not for long. But perhaps I can shed some insight as I have a background
as a photographer/videographer.

I can't say what camera, but for pictures like this a macro lens is required
to get close in shots with tiny objects like Lego. If Mark is using a DSLR of
some kind or comparable then shooting uncompressed photos will retain sharper
images.

I can't say what filters Mark used, but a polarizer filter can help greatly
with reducing reflective / semi-reflective surfaces like Lego.

And Mark is most likely using a light box of some sort or using white surfaces
of some kind to bounce the light for even lighting/softer shadowing.

Hopefully Mark will be back to elaborate but hopefully this information is helpful
in the meantime.

-Quinton

Very helpful, thank you for the explanation. I’m ashamed to say that I have all
the dslr equipment but have not been using it for a couple of years.
Thank you Quinton,
Stay safe
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 09:40
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In Catalog, manganschlamm writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php


Great work, very helpful and instructive, keep on doing your excellent work,
wherever it may appear.

Keep making these wonderful cartoons as well.



I think a cartoon with an individual named Tomás de Torquemada would make a lot
of sense.
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 09:14
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
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Great work, very helpful and instructive, keep on doing your excellent work,
wherever it may appear.

Keep making these wonderful cartoons as well.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Catalog, Captain_Q writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

I am curious now. Is this allowed? Because the links were not directly shared
of BO but overall this seems like a conflict on interest with the TOS? Yeah,
no?

Well I think this is just something "they don't like". I also mentioned Br*ckOwl
somewhere just to explain a point and it got removed or something like that
(don't recall clearly, but it was an issue).

It always makes me feel weird when Bricklink is being all "shhhh don't mention
to people that Br*ckOwl exists". I can only see that as Bricklink calling itself
a bad marketplace. It would make Bricklink look a lot better and professional
if they acknowledged AFOLs use different sites and tools at the same time and
didn't go all "shhh!".

Btw Mark I read your response on your page and I agree. It is not about "picking
a side" at all.
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 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 06:53
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.

I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)

I hope it is not.

I have read the email the admin sent the now banned member, there were no violations
cited...
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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WoutR (919)

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In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.

I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)

I hope it is not.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.

I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

As people, we can be interested. But I have to agree. It is none of our businesses
and not Bricklink's businesses either. What links he places on his own, external
website is his choice.

Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Once more awesome pictures and studies of the difference between parts that we
all call the same.
Marvellous work again!!!
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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SezaR (1379)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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In Catalog, Captain_Q writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

I am curious now. Is this allowed? Because the links were not directly shared
of BO but overall this seems like a conflict on interest with the TOS? Yeah,
no?

It depends on the distance and it depends on how you define the distance. I have
two definitions at hand:
Definition one: the distance between two websites is the minimum number of clicks
required to go from one website to the other.
In this case, this distance would be three: first click on the link that he
provided. The second click would be on "fup", and the third would be on one of
his images.

Definition two: 1+ "the minimum number of websites required to be visited"
Based on this definition, the distance would be 2 because one only need to visit
mfav's website to get from here to the other website.

Bricklink follows the first definition. The rule that they follow on Bricklink
depends on the other website:

For Ebay, the distance cannot be more than 25018 otherwise the thread will be
cancelled.

For BO, the distance cannot be more than 888102 otherwise the thread will be
cancelled.
For Lego.com, the distance could me more than 99999999 for threads posted before
December 2019. Since December 2019, the distance is allowed, sorry, it is encouraged
to be one.
 Author: Captain_Q View Messages Posted By Captain_Q
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In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.


In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Mfav (Mark) has been suspended from the forum so we will not know.


Hopefully not for long. But perhaps I can shed some insight as I have a background
as a photographer/videographer.

I can't say what camera, but for pictures like this a macro lens is required
to get close in shots with tiny objects like Lego. If Mark is using a DSLR of
some kind or comparable then shooting uncompressed photos will retain sharper
images.

I can't say what filters Mark used, but a polarizer filter can help greatly
with reducing reflective / semi-reflective surfaces like Lego.

And Mark is most likely using a light box of some sort or using white surfaces
of some kind to bounce the light for even lighting/softer shadowing.

Hopefully Mark will be back to elaborate but hopefully this information is helpful
in the meantime.

-Quinton
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In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.

Mfav (Mark) has been suspended from the forum so we will not know.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

I really appreciate the work you are doing to collectively identify, organize,
and call reference to all of these clips. I don't think BrickLink will ever
have a need to recognize so many variations, but your resource is without a doubt
a huge benefit to all AFOLs. Very nice work, Mark.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:

  randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

What I meant to say was that the part comes as one complete unit in the sets
directly from LEGO and is counted as one part by LEGO. There is no need to assemble
it, and it is not meant to be disassembled. I was rushing through messages before,
so I didn't explain it well enough.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
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crazylegoman (1089)

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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  This set review has both the red and LBG holders:

https://youtu.be/cIeqTh0x82g

Good find! It looks like bag #2 comes with the red chassis that already has
the red 2X2 plates with small pins attached.

Thanks,
David
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

I am curious now. Is this allowed? Because the links were not directly shared
of BO but overall this seems like a conflict on interest with the TOS? Yeah,
no?
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Well, I don't know how much respect someone like me is due

But you're right, it is none of my business.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Ouch! They are two good guys. That is the nicest you can be?

John P
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David

This set review has both the red and LBG holders:

https://youtu.be/cIeqTh0x82g
 
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic
 
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
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Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
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Finally got round to submitting the first three!

In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  There's 24 stickered parts in this set, but only 3 are in the inventory.

Only two are in the inventory.


These things happen...

  
First you'll need to add the stickered parts here:

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp

Then you'll need to add images here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page

Once the parts are approved (meaning added to the catalog) you will then be able
to submit an inventory change request for the set to add the stickered parts
as counterparts.

But I still don't know what to use as the item no and item name. Even after
reading the instructions the numbering conventions go over my head

Stickered parts are (usually) just the part number plus "pb" plus a unique numerical
suffix.

If you go to the "Market" tab, then select "Catalog", it should drop you at a
search page. Search the part number which has the sticker and add a wildcard
character (*) to the end. When the results are returned you'll need to refine
them further: sort on "Item Number" and order "Down". This will return the newest/highest
suffix currently in use.

For your new part just submit an ID with next highest number. If that number
is rejected it means there is currently a part with that number pending approval
but not yet in the catalog. If that happens just go up another number until
the submission is accepted.

The attached image should hopefully makes things clearer--it is not an easy
process to understand at first. Ask back if you have any problems.

Thanks, I'll refer back to this when I get the photos taken.
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In Catalog, Bendix writes:
  add to the catalog as a
set or single?

Please take a look through the existing postcard section and follow the examples
shown:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=G&catString=472
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I just came across of a set of 6 Legoland Sierksdorf postcards: 5 are showing
the German WM soccer team of 1974 on a visit a Legoland Sierksdorf (black and
white). The sixth one shows the entrance of Legoland Sierksdorf and on the back
there are autographs of the soccer team.

I only came twice across this set in a lot of years - add to the catalog as a
set or single?

Thanks for any advice
Beryll
 












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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I think the sticker of part 4170pb01 for set 7745 is a little bit bigger, than
the sticker for set 7740. See image (below=7745; up=7740)

I confirm.

P.S. primadeluxe, your previous post concerning the shell stickers were posted
here three times.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1186278

The private message you just sent me was indeed received twice in my mailbox.
So, if you are going to reply my message, this is the instructions to flatten
the spread of your messages:

1) press the"Post" bottom
then immediately
2) turn off your laptop

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I think the sticker of part 4170pb01 for set 7745 is a little bit bigger, than
the sticker for set 7740. See image (below=7745; up=7740)
 
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OMG!

That's some fantastic work to illustrate the issue, and explains a lot...

Thanks for the educational overview.
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In Catalog Requests, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Quite a few of today's sets not only contain instructions (= booklets or
single sheets of paper) but also other paper items. These are included to promote
the product line or to provide information about what you can do with the set.
Currently there's no way to add these to a set inventory which means that
--as a seller-- you cannot sell a set as 'complete' until these
items are part of the catalogue inventory.

No, no, no... Sets are considered complete without catalogs or flyers or any
of that type of content. In fact you can list a set as complete with no box and
no instructions, as long as you mention it in the listing notes.

  Example:
 
Set No: 41906  Name: Pencil Holder
* 
41906-1 (Inv) Pencil Holder
351 Parts, 2020
Sets: Dots
contains an instruction sheet https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?I=41906-1#T=S&O={%22ss%22:%22NL%22,%22rpp%22:%2250%22,%22iconly%22:0}
and a leaflet/flyer --whatever you want to call it-- with building ideas
and a product overview.

For the above set I added this paper sheet to the catalogue under number 6317480.
I can't add a link to this item in the form of p=xxxx or whatever because
it's not supported in the macro tags. See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1147

Yes, it is:
[c=m20dots]
  Also: this item is nowhere linked to the sets in which it appears.

StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'. BTW: I don't think this is very helpful.

I was the one who approved this and changed the title to conform with BrickLink
standard. This is a mini catalog, and this is how they are listed. There are
over 400 mini catalogs now in the catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?q=mini&catType=C&catID=

  I think we need a way to add those paper leaflets to the inventory of a set.
There are two ways to do this:
1. make items like this a part of the inventory or
2. extend the current set description [set entry | instructions entry | box
entry]
with '| other included items' or whatever you want
to call it.

We've tinkered with the idea of adding catalogs to sets in the past, but
there is too much variability to standardize this for all catalogs.

However, we have also considered inventorying which sets appear in which catalogs.
This would give sets (and by extension, parts) a full chronological spectrum
instead of simply the starting year.
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In Catalog Requests, Leftoverbricks writes:
  StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'.

Did I? Are you certain of that? Because oddly enough, I don't remember
doing it.
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Quite a few of today's sets not only contain instructions (= booklets or
single sheets of paper) but also other paper items. These are included to promote
the product line or to provide information about what you can do with the set.
Currently there's no way to add these to a set inventory which means that
--as a seller-- you cannot sell a set as 'complete' until these
items are part of the catalogue inventory.

Example:
 
Set No: 41906  Name: Pencil Holder
* 
41906-1 (Inv) Pencil Holder
351 Parts, 2020
Sets: Dots
contains an instruction sheet https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?I=41906-1#T=S&O={%22ss%22:%22NL%22,%22rpp%22:%2250%22,%22iconly%22:0}
and a leaflet/flyer --whatever you want to call it-- with building ideas
and a product overview.

For the above set I added this paper sheet to the catalogue under number 6317480.
I can't add a link to this item in the form of p=xxxx or whatever because
it's not supported in the macro tags. See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1147
Also: this item is nowhere linked to the sets in which it appears.

StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'. BTW: I don't think this is very helpful.

I think we need a way to add those paper leaflets to the inventory of a set.
There are two ways to do this:
1. make items like this a part of the inventory or
2. extend the current set description [set entry | instructions entry | box
entry]
with '| other included items' or whatever you want
to call it.
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Some takeaway observations so far.

Catalog is inconsistent in how it treats variants.
- Sometimes there is one ID number for two different designs.
-- Sometimes these design differences are noted, other times not
- Sometimes there is one ID number plus a letter (1234a, 1234b, etc.) indicating
different designs
- Sometimes there is one ID number plus "alternate numbers" for a single design
-- Sometimes these alternate ID numbers are the same design
-- Sometimes these alternate ID numbers are a different design

I would suggest that 48729 and 48729b are functionally different designs.
I would suggest that 48729b is actually 41005, and 41005 is a later variant of
48729b.

21 unique clip shapes to this point.

Some clip shape differences are obvious and others are subtle. Many probably
can't be distinguished by most people, even upon close examination. Through
the process of photographing these elements, and bringing the actual 6mm size
up to somewhere around 180mm these differences become more apparent.

So the differences are now cataloged and you can deal with them or not as you
see fit.

There's probably another page or two to come, but this is pretty slow going.
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

I haven't looked into it quite closely, but I believe this issue affects
numerous parts all across the catalog. See item number 1 in the first section
on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

See Project 22 on the Catalog Roadmap. You can generalize that to include this.
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In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

I haven't looked into it quite closely, but I believe this issue affects
numerous parts all across the catalog. See item number 1 in the first section
on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
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  Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr

I suspect it's as the inventory for this set has those panels (before stickers
applied) as having come in both versions but I will look into it further
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I think I have one or two of those, if I can find them I'll check mine.




In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr
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Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  […]
However, if LDraw
still uses some "x" numbers, it would be wise to retain them.

LDraw doesn’t use “x” numbers. They use “u” numbers, and they get rid of them
as soon as the correct ID is known.

So, rid away with the “x”!


As for aliases, they make alias files (their descriptions start with a “=”).
So that takes care of that.
Now, their patterns numbers are not compatible with BL’s. So this would be a
bigger problem, except, now, the BL ID is often put as keywords (inside the file
but searchable in some CADs or simply with a grep).
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W

"x" exists as a temporary number when the official Lego part number was originally
not known (usually because it is not printed on the part itself).

The "x" numbers come from the old peeron/LDraw days when numbers were not known.

  When I've discovered the true part number, I've submitted many for the
"x" number to be replaced by the official Lego part number, and it's always
been done. (The "x" number was not even retained as an alternate.) In fact, one
time I went through the catelog to discover and replace as many as I could find
the original part number for.

Nope, this is not always the case. Some admins would change them and others would
not. The ones who would not change them stated that the reason was to maintain
consitency with peeron/LDraw. Since peeron has been defunct for quite a while,
I see no need to continue to maintain consistency with them. However, if LDraw
still uses some "x" numbers, it would be wise to retain them.

  For some reason here though... When the original part number was discovered,
it was added as an alternate number, but not replaced. So, there's obviously
serious inconsistency here.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W

"x" exists as a temporary number when the official Lego part number was originally
not known (usually because it is not printed on the part itself).

When I've discovered the true part number, I've submitted many for the
"x" number to be replaced by the official Lego part number, and it's always
been done. (The "x" number was not even retained as an alternate.) In fact, one
time I went through the catelog to discover and replace as many as I could find
the original part number for.

For some reason here though... When the original part number was discovered,
it was added as an alternate number, but not replaced. So, there's obviously
serious inconsistency here.
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Seriously, what genius thought the best avatar brick in the catalog should be
white when the background is white too. So many hard to figure out bricks. Please
change all white avatar bricks to something more visible.
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Can I add those to the catalog?

You may submit any genuine LEGO item to the catalog.

  And where: book / gear / catalog

At this point in time most paper objects should be added as the Books item type.
If the flyers have the characteristics of a catalog, then that's where they'd
go. Otherwise books.
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TLG is distributing general product flyers in sets within the same theme. For
example DOTS and Ninjago Arcade Pods. The flyers are all the same, so not specific
to a particular set.
Can I add those to the catalog? And where: book / gear / catalog / somewhere
else?
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  […]
I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... […]

Nah, items have a fixed, internal ID in the database, that ID doesn’t change.
The part ID is just another description, shorter and unique.

Think about when they add a digit to the numbered minifigs (bla001 becoming bla0001).

Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.
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more to come eventually
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Is there any printing on the reverse side of this 2012 series of posters? Acquired
some, but they have B/W smaller versions on the reverse.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser at the helm…

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I am not at the helm of anything.

I am the merely the newest of three catalog associates and we all work together
as a team with the two inventory administrators.

My role on the team is to spend most of my time posting in the discussion forum
while others do the actual work.

...an important calling nonetheless...

Life is Good.
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In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser at the helm…

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I am not at the helm of anything.

I am the merely the newest of three catalog associates and we all work together
as a team with the two inventory administrators.

My role on the team is to spend most of my time posting in the discussion forum
while others do the actual work.
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In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  […]
I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... […]

Nah, items have a fixed, internal ID in the database, that ID doesn’t change.
The part ID is just another description, shorter and unique.

Think about when they add a digit to the numbered minifigs (bla001 becoming bla0001).
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?

I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... & it's probably
a bit of a chore to verify and test such dependencies *before* making the change
each time, though I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser
at the helm…


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In Catalog, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

6 minutes - You are FAST.

Or should I say, 6 MINUTES? What the L took so long??

Jim.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

6 minutes - You are FAST.
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I agree. Having the set number in neither the part number or description will
make it harder to find.

In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's my plan to handle the restructuring, which is a combination of ideas
from everyone:

For Existing Duplicate Catalog Entries:

1. Stickers that appear in multiple sets will have a new catalog entry
created. Then all existing duplicate entries will be merged into the new entry.

2. Item numbers for the new catalog entries will be formatted like this:
multistk001, multistk002, multistk003, etc.

3. Item titles for new entries will be formatted as follows. When the
sticker appears in three or fewer sets, then "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets
- 1001, 1002, 1003." When the sheet appears in more than three sets (there are
only 19 of these): "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral."

Is there a reason why we can't have all the set numbers in the titles besides
the title length limitation? Since there are so few of these, I honestly don't
see why we would create two new naming conventions for these sheets that differ
from the convention used for all other sticker sheets. Also, since you are changing
the item numbers for these multi-set sticker sheets, it is probably more important
than ever to have the set numbers in the titles for search purposes. Using a
title like "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral" does nothing
to help find this sticker sheet.

My suggestion is for one naming convention:

"Sticker Sheet for Set ..." for one-set sticker sheets and "Sticker Sheet for
Sets ..." for multi-set sticker sheets.

  4. N/A and International sticker sheet entries will be merged when there
are no apparent differences beyond the standard N/A / International differences.

5. Where significant differences exist between sticker sheets, such as
color differences in the stickers themselves, the duplicate entries will be retained.

For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

If anyone has suggestions for this plan or sees where it may encounter problems,
please say something. Otherwise, we'll move into the action phase during
the upcoming week.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's my plan to handle the restructuring, which is a combination of ideas
from everyone:

For Existing Duplicate Catalog Entries:

1. Stickers that appear in multiple sets will have a new catalog entry
created. Then all existing duplicate entries will be merged into the new entry.

2. Item numbers for the new catalog entries will be formatted like this:
multistk001, multistk002, multistk003, etc.

3. Item titles for new entries will be formatted as follows. When the
sticker appears in three or fewer sets, then "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets
- 1001, 1002, 1003." When the sheet appears in more than three sets (there are
only 19 of these): "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral."

Is there a reason why we can't have all the set numbers in the titles besides
the title length limitation? Since there are so few of these, I honestly don't
see why we would create two new naming conventions for these sheets that differ
from the convention used for all other sticker sheets. Also, since you are changing
the item numbers for these multi-set sticker sheets, it is probably more important
than ever to have the set numbers in the titles for search purposes. Using a
title like "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral" does nothing
to help find this sticker sheet.

My suggestion is for one naming convention:

"Sticker Sheet for Set ..." for one-set sticker sheets and "Sticker Sheet for
Sets ..." for multi-set sticker sheets.

  4. N/A and International sticker sheet entries will be merged when there
are no apparent differences beyond the standard N/A / International differences.

5. Where significant differences exist between sticker sheets, such as
color differences in the stickers themselves, the duplicate entries will be retained.

For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

If anyone has suggestions for this plan or sees where it may encounter problems,
please say something. Otherwise, we'll move into the action phase during
the upcoming week.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

We can get started on this now. I can add the word "Sheet" to titles administratively,
but there is no easy way to accomplish moving PCCs administratively. Assistance
with catalog change requests would be appreciated.

Please see the attached images. The first image shows how to move the PCC when
there is only one number in the title. If anyone disagrees with treating this
number as a PCC, then say something.

I do! (hand in air)

I am not sure what this number is on these sheets. It could be an Element ID,
but maybe it isn't. I would rather us just move numbers to PCCs that we know
for sure are Element IDs. These would be the sticker sheets with a clear "Design
ID/Element ID" format on the sheets.
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?

Yes, there is a reason.

The reason is that BrickLink is leery of changing item numbers. There are hundreds
of item numbers that need to be changed and someday I may make a list of them.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  please ask for clarification

Forgot to clarify: we're only changing parts that appear in a single set.
If the sticker sheet appears in more than one set, then ignore it for now.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

We can get started on this now. I can add the word "Sheet" to titles administratively,
but there is no easy way to accomplish moving PCCs administratively. Assistance
with catalog change requests would be appreciated.

Please see the attached images. The first image shows how to move the PCC when
there is only one number in the title. If anyone disagrees with treating this
number as a PCC, then say something. The second image shows how to move the
PCC when there are two numbers in the title separated by a slash. The lengthier
number should be the PCC (ask if unsure in a specific instance).

For sticker sheets from roughly 1997-2014 PCCs were already moved, but they were
(most unfortunately) left in the titles. They still need to be removed from
titles. If the PCC has already been moved, you'll get the message shown
in the third image. In those cases, just remove the PCC from the title.

If you're not sure how this should be done properly, please ask for clarification
before proceeding to assist with these changes. The parts shown in the images
are linked for reference:

 
Part No: 1469stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 1469 - (199602)
* 
1469stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 1469 - (199602)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 
Part No: 1376stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 1376 - (43655/4173445)
* 
1376stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 1376 - (43655/4173445)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 




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In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.
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Can anyone tell me why
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?
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I had a few of these, and because I noticed the anti-stud I also figured it might
be useful for MOC builders, so I put it in my store. A couple have sold, ages
ago, now only 1 left. I did message the buyer to make sure they knew what they
were buying. They were happy (they also bought some shurikens at the same time).

I don't know if they were actively looking for the sprue, maybe they just
wanted to make a set 100% complete once they saw the sprue for sale alongside
the shurikens. Would they have found them if they were listed under their own
entry in the catalogue? Who can say. Maybe my last one will never sell if it
is given a separate sprue designation in the catalogue and folks don't know
to look for it. But upon finding your post, my pedantic sense of order and completeness
immediately says "Yes, add it to the catalogue!" (even if it's to my own
detriment).

Just my 2 cents. I will leave it up to those more wise than I to decide.

Cheers



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  I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?

I think it would be fine in the catalog, although I'm sure there are others
who would oppose it. Are there other sprue-only entries in the catalog?

David

I don't think so, but I'm unaware of another sprue that can actually
go on a stud.
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?

I think it would be fine in the catalog, although I'm sure there are others
who would oppose it. Are there other sprue-only entries in the catalog?

It would at least limit the number of people not finding it in the catalogue.
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?

I think it would be fine in the catalog, although I'm sure there are others
who would oppose it. Are there other sprue-only entries in the catalog?

David

It appears in over 20 Ninjago sets, doesn't it? I see no reason why you
would not list it. I see those teeny screwdrivers listed by themselves, and in
fact, have bought one. Jerri
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?

I think it would be fine in the catalog, although I'm sure there are others
who would oppose it. Are there other sprue-only entries in the catalog?

David
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I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?
 
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Thankfully Axaday jumped in and added the new variant so I don't have to
deal with the description anymore.

[p=3626d]

I'm not sure about the part number, though. Officially, the new mold has
nothing to do with 3626 and in similar cases (where a new mold number is known)
like
 
Part No: 15573  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove and Bottom Stud Holder (Jumper)
* 
15573 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove and Bottom Stud Holder (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified
or
 
Part No: 61252  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip (Horizontal Grip)
* 
61252 Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip (Horizontal Grip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
BL used to take the official number instead of the previous one +letter.

Regards,
Jonas
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Here's my plan to handle the restructuring, which is a combination of ideas
from everyone:

For Existing Duplicate Catalog Entries:

1. Stickers that appear in multiple sets will have a new catalog entry
created. Then all existing duplicate entries will be merged into the new entry.

2. Item numbers for the new catalog entries will be formatted like this:
multistk001, multistk002, multistk003, etc.

3. Item titles for new entries will be formatted as follows. When the
sticker appears in three or fewer sets, then "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets
- 1001, 1002, 1003." When the sheet appears in more than three sets (there are
only 19 of these): "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral."

4. N/A and International sticker sheet entries will be merged when there
are no apparent differences beyond the standard N/A / International differences.

5. Where significant differences exist between sticker sheets, such as
color differences in the stickers themselves, the duplicate entries will be retained.

For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

If anyone has suggestions for this plan or sees where it may encounter problems,
please say something. Otherwise, we'll move into the action phase during
the upcoming week.
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Below are the issues additionally identified in this thread:

1. The word "Sheet" should be added to catalog entries.

I agree and we will make this part of the project. So all items will go from
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

2. Incomplete sticker sheets should not be allowed to be listed.

CAs cannot control this, nor can we force sellers to state if the sticker sheet
is complete or incomplete.

3. We should use the item number for sticker sheets instead of placing the
item number in the title.


Not a bad idea, but we're trying to accomplish this with as little disruption
as possible. This idea would require renumbering every single sticker sheet,
which is not feasible. Also, many early sticker sheets did not have an item
number, so this would be an inconsistent approach.

4. Sticker sheets should not be considered a part, but should instead be
tied to set entries like original boxes and set instructions are.


This idea would create problems because some sticker sheets appear in multiple
sets. Also, tying instructions and original boxes to set entries creates its
own problems. Also, this would require coding from the site and we know we won't
get that.

5. Background color should be required for sticker sheets.

For this, I don't think so. I get that it would be convenient for some users,
but our image scans of sticker sheets are continually improving. A proper scan
will show the background color and this is probably the best way to handle this
issue.

6. Sticker sheets should be titled with descriptions of most or all of the
stickers that appear thereon.


I agree that this would make searching easier, but it would also be fairly difficult
to accomplish properly with the system we now have. This isn't a bad idea,
but it would be more appropriate for some kind of tag system if we ever get it.
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In Catalog, 69transamman writes:
  For consistency shouldn't parts 89650 & 61053 have separate listings, they differ from each other

Please read this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
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The catalog has separate listing for parts 89652 & 60176, the only difference
being the open lower axle holes. For consistency shouldn't parts 89650 &
61053 have separate listings, they differ in the same way from each other.
Howard
 


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In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
  In Catalog, bouncingbear writes:
  Hello

We have 2 sets with faulty print box of Pet Shop (front of box shows 1332 pieces
vs 2032 official) - as relative new to selling appreciate help how best to put
it into the store inventory? Should it be a custom item, or should it be 10218-1
with custom image?

Many thanks in advance

That’s interesting, do you have pictures of the boxes?
If it’s sealed I would list it as 10218-1 with custom picture and additional
notes describing the error.
Where did you buy them? Was the error presented to you before you bought the
sets?

Hi, Bought in Singapore & did not know at time of purchase - have kept them ever
since. Once get round to taking pictures will upload (probably once I set up
dropbox to store photos).
Thanks
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In Catalog, Cob writes:
  In Catalog, bouncingbear writes:
  Hello

We have 2 sets with faulty print box of Pet Shop (front of box shows 1332 pieces
vs 2032 official) - as relative new to selling appreciate help how best to put
it into the store inventory? Should it be a custom item, or should it be 10218-1
with custom image?

Many thanks in advance

I would list with the rest of the sets, note the faulty print and provide pictures.
I provide dropbox links in the comments so the buyer can see high quality pictures.

Example here:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6024px4&idColor=6#T=S&C=6&O={%22color%22:6,%22ss%22:%22US%22,%22rpp%22:%22100%22,%22iconly%22:0}

Thanks that helpful - I like the idea of the dropbox link
Cheers
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 Subject: Re: New minifigure head variant 28621
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  We would like the naming convention to be somewhat indicative of the form of
the obstruction for unambiguous recognition. I fear using "one bar" or "two holes"
leaves us vulnerable to too many potential design changes down the line. I'm
attaching a diagram with labels, all of which are accurate but few which are
unique and unambiguous.

I understand the concern. I like what you've done with describing the bars
as letters, and I believe we should use that as one part of the naming convention.
Unfortunately it doesn't cover the potential cases on the right.
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  How should the new type (and the printed variants) be added to the catalog?

So this is basically a blocked open stud. We have two options:

1. Catalog them under the existing blocked open stud entry and add the new number
as an additional item number.

2. Create a new 3626d entry.

I don't have any preference here. What do others think?

I also prefer different entries so I will create a new head entry tomorrow. Any
suggestions how to name it? It should not be too long to leave room for pattern
descriptions.

In the meantime I have found the new type also in
 
Set No: 40408  Name: Drag Racer
* 
40408-1 (Inv) Drag Racer
126 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Hidden Side
and
 
Set No: 70429  Name: El Fuego's Stunt Plane
* 
70429-1 (Inv) El Fuego's Stunt Plane
277 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Hidden Side
.
So maybe the latest inventories with transparent heads need to be checked again?

Yes, we will try and contact all the submitter's of inventories since December
that contained transparent heads.

Thanks for catching this early.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, amthatkindoforc writes:
  For the former:
Minifigure, Head [Pattern] - Blocked Open Stud, 1 Bar

For the latter:
Minifigure, Head [Pattern] - Blocked Open Stud, 2 Hole

I'd suggest the naming convention requires some additional consideration.
We would like the naming convention to be somewhat indicative of the form of
the obstruction for unambiguous recognition. I fear using "one bar" or "two holes"
leaves us vulnerable to too many potential design changes down the line. I'm
attaching a diagram with labels, all of which are accurate but few which are
unique and unambiguous.

With this in mind, I suggest further discussion.
 
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

my set
 
Set No: 70432  Name: Haunted Fairground
* 
70432-1 (Inv) Haunted Fairground
443 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Hidden Side
came with a new minifigure head type with two holes and new
number 28621. It is already listed at Brickset:
https://brickset.com/parts/design-28621

Looks like the new mold is only used for transparent heads. All three trans-neon
green heads (1x plain, 2x printed) in my set are the new type while all other
heads are 3626c.

How should the new type (and the printed variants) be added to the catalog?

Regards,
Jonas

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1115430

I thought maybe they had found an old mould and started reusing it but looks
a different bar width to the one I found at the link above which is from

 
Set No: 6380  Name: Emergency Treatment Center (St. Mary's Hospital)
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6380-1 (Inv) Emergency Treatment Center (St. Mary's Hospital)
270 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Hospital
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  I also prefer different entries so I will create a new head entry tomorrow. Any
suggestions how to name it? It should not be too long to leave room for pattern
descriptions.

Depends on which you want to emphasize: the bar down the middle, or the 2 holes.
I kept the "Blocked Open Stud" string so people searching would find both the
current form and this variant.

For the former:
Minifigure, Head [Pattern] - Blocked Open Stud, 1 Bar

For the latter:
Minifigure, Head [Pattern] - Blocked Open Stud, 2 Hole
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  How should the new type (and the printed variants) be added to the catalog?

So this is basically a blocked open stud. We have two options:

1. Catalog them under the existing blocked open stud entry and add the new number
as an additional item number.

2. Create a new 3626d entry.

I don't have any preference here. What do others think?

I also prefer different entries so I will create a new head entry tomorrow. Any
suggestions how to name it? It should not be too long to leave room for pattern
descriptions.

In the meantime I have found the new type also in
 
Set No: 40408  Name: Drag Racer
* 
40408-1 (Inv) Drag Racer
126 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Hidden Side
and
 
Set No: 70429  Name: El Fuego's Stunt Plane
* 
70429-1 (Inv) El Fuego's Stunt Plane
277 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Hidden Side
.
So maybe the latest inventories with transparent heads need to be checked again?
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  I would be in favor of the part size being determined by the overall part dimensions
and not just the base that attaches to studs in the plane tail category
(and possibly other categories.) However, I think that most categories (modified
bricks, modified plates, etc.) would not benefit at all from such size alterations
in their names.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think this is the situation we're in
right now. Some are thought of "one way" and some are thought of "another way".

The "description" labelling might be one way where the "stud dimensions" labelling
might be another way, and the "shipping dimensions" a third way...

It gets real messy real fast.

I'm up to a potential database field count of 15 so far...

I know: roadmap 36.
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In Catalog, bouncingbear writes:
  Hello

We have 2 sets with faulty print box of Pet Shop (front of box shows 1332 pieces
vs 2032 official) - as relative new to selling appreciate help how best to put
it into the store inventory? Should it be a custom item, or should it be 10218-1
with custom image?

Many thanks in advance

I would list with the rest of the sets, note the faulty print and provide pictures.
I provide dropbox links in the comments so the buyer can see high quality pictures.

Example here:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6024px4&idColor=6#T=S&C=6&O={%22color%22:6,%22ss%22:%22US%22,%22rpp%22:%22100%22,%22iconly%22:0}
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Sure it does. You just add the second part number as an alternate item number
and put both Element IDs in two separate PCC slots. In this case, the vendor
number (the 140413A or 134071A) don't matter, but on some they will.

Cheers,
Randy

In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
  that doesn't solve this problem. same sheet, different number
 
Part No: 75138stk01a  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - International Version - (25703/6142378)
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75138stk01a Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - International Version - (25703/6142378)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 
Part No: 75138stk01b  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - North American Version - (25704/6142381)
* 
75138stk01b Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - North American Version - (25704/6142381)
Parts: Sticker Sheet

In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  I'd say get rid of the current numbering system and give the sticker sheets
the part number which is written on the sheet itself. Then put the set # into
the description.

Design ID for stickers is the one before the / and the one after is the item
number.

The BrickLink item number/part number (or LEGO Design ID) is the one before the
slash and the BrickLink PCC (or LEGO Element ID) is the one after the slash.
That is exactly what I said above in my statement.

Cheers,
Randy

Right Randy, I misread!
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I would be in favor of the part size being determined by the overall part dimensions
and not just the base that attaches to studs in the plane tail category
(and possibly other categories.) However, I think that most categories (modified
bricks, modified plates, etc.) would not benefit at all from such size alterations
in their names.

David

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