Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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I once submitted a torso something like Torso I seriously have no idea pattern.
Admin must have fixed it, but I don't remember what it was now.
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It was this one
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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I once submitted a torso something like Torso I seriously have no idea pattern.
Admin must have fixed it, but I don't remember what it was now.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.
The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.
Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
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I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:50 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
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Yes exactly as it is visible on sticker sheet
but instruction shows them to be applied like this so they need to be two parts.
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/6282600.pdf
page 122
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.
The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.
Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:34 | | Subject: | Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 164 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| There seems to be an increasing trend of identifying patterned parts by simply
calling them Pattern 1 and Pattern 2. Here are three random examples of recent
parts, but I could go on for a while.
I would caution against this practice of non-descriptively titling items. In
fact, I was hoping the site would move away from things like this, not more toward.
Although I suppose we could greatly simplify all titles by simply going the Mini
Upper Part "No. 1470" route that TLG uses.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Another inconsistency | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, dcarmine writes:
| | Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.
I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars
For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.
After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.
Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.
Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.
Donna
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I'm replying since there is a silent finger pointing me 
I didn't decide. When I am doing an inventory and there is a controversial
issue, I ask ahead. Because I don't want to take and edit a picture and
then be asked to redo it. A Catalog Admin with a particular interest in Star
Wars guided me. But the rationale isn't really hard to follow. The mouse
droid and GONK droid in the 2019 calendar are very far from the first Mouse and
Gonk and all the others are minifigs. So they are handled like other minifigs.
But the porg and the mynock are not the first porg and mynock either. They
were both in where they are also listed as pieces and then counter
parted as complete assemblies. Just like the brick built animals in
and the dragon in . As far as I know, dinosaurs are the only ones
that appear assembled in the main part of inventories. I don't know why
that is, but I think the answer to your question is just why isn't a porg
a minifig, right? I would have been glad to make it one, but the reason that
it isn't is because it is an animal.
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