Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Saitobricks.ca  | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 11:22 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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Ok, is there a way to report rule brakers?
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If someone broke the set/brand rule: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
(But they shouldn’t have been able to break the rules as only admins can authorize
Full access.)
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Ok, good to know.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 11:17 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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Ok, is there a way to report rule brakers?
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If someone broke the set/brand rule: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
(But they shouldn’t have been able to break the rules as only admins can authorize
Full access.)
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 10:56 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?
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On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.
Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable. (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)
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Ok, what about brand name cars? E.g. BMW, Honda, Mini.
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Same. Display only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a Mini,” even if it looks more like a potato
on a skateboard: Display only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” but it looks very much like a Mini: Display
only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” and doesn’t look like you copied the
design: you can opt for Full access.
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Ok, is there a way to report rule brakers?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?
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On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.
Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable. (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)
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Ok, what about brand name cars? E.g. BMW, Honda, Mini.
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Same. Display only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a Mini,” even if it looks more like a potato
on a skateboard: Display only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” but it looks very much like a Mini: Display
only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” and doesn’t look like you copied the
design: you can opt for Full access.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 10:42 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | […]
So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?
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On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.
Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable. (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)
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Ok, what about brand name cars? E.g. BMW, Honda, Mini.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 10:40 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?
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On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.
Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable. (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | I noticed that the studio terms say that you can’t post creations of sets released
by LEGO.
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Precision: You’re talking about the “Studio Gallery terms,” not the “Studio terms.”
For Studio itself: You can do whatever you want with Studio if you keep your
creations to yourself. And if you distribute the results (free or for a fee),
whatever the support (.io file, PDF, paper, vellum, qipu…), IP laws apply. That’s
the same restrictions as with a pencil.
| | Is that a no LEGO sets at all, or a no direct copies that you can make money
off of?
[…]
Also it says no brand names yet on the published studio creations I see dozens
of brand name cars, and movie based creations.
What’s going on?!?!?
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Complete explanations:
https://studiohelp.bricklink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042355033-Studio-Gallery-submission-guidelines
Summary/rewording:
1. There’s different levels of access:
— Private: the design is not on the Gallery. My Studio, the place where you
upload your designs, only serves as a private repository (“in the cloud”).
— Display: the design is on the Gallery, but other members can only see images
and a 3D view.
— Full: the design is visible to all, other members can have the parts list,
can use EasyBuy, and (if you opt in) can download the .io file.
2. What’s forbidden (religion, military, violence, brands logos…) is set to Private
by the admins.
3. What’s IP protected is set to Display (or rather, is not accepted to Full).
IP (mostly) means copyrights and trademarks. That includes anything that says
it is, or obviously is, based on someone else’s brands or designs.
So, for official sets:
— If you build an official set in Studio and put it on the Gallery, it’ll be
Display.
— If you build a MOD of an official set (“hey, look what I built with the parts
of set XXX”), it’ll be Display.
— If you build a MOC that complements an official set (“hey, look, a 3rd floor
for modular 10xxx-1”), it’ll be Display.
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So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2024 07:53 | | Subject: | Re: Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | I noticed that the studio terms say that you can’t post creations of sets released
by LEGO.
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Precision: You’re talking about the “Studio Gallery terms,” not the “Studio terms.”
For Studio itself: You can do whatever you want with Studio if you keep your
creations to yourself. And if you distribute the results (free or for a fee),
whatever the support (.io file, PDF, paper, vellum, qipu…), IP laws apply. That’s
the same restrictions as with a pencil.
| | Is that a no LEGO sets at all, or a no direct copies that you can make money
off of?
[…]
Also it says no brand names yet on the published studio creations I see dozens
of brand name cars, and movie based creations.
What’s going on?!?!?
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Complete explanations:
https://studiohelp.bricklink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042355033-Studio-Gallery-submission-guidelines
Summary/rewording:
1. There’s different levels of access:
— Private: the design is not on the Gallery. My Studio, the place where you
upload your designs, only serves as a private repository (“in the cloud”).
— Display: the design is on the Gallery, but other members can only see images
and a 3D view.
— Full: the design is visible to all, other members can have the parts list,
can use EasyBuy, and (if you opt in) can download the .io file.
2. What’s forbidden (religion, military, violence, brands logos…) is set to Private
by the admins.
3. What’s IP protected is set to Display (or rather, is not accepted to Full).
IP (mostly) means copyrights and trademarks. That includes anything that says
it is, or obviously is, based on someone else’s brands or designs.
So, for official sets:
— If you build an official set in Studio and put it on the Gallery, it’ll be
Display.
— If you build a MOD of an official set (“hey, look what I built with the parts
of set XXX”), it’ll be Display.
— If you build a MOC that complements an official set (“hey, look, a 3rd floor
for modular 10xxx-1”), it’ll be Display.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 21, 2024 20:55 | | Subject: | Question about sets in studio | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| I noticed that the studio terms say that you can’t post creations of sets released
by LEGO.
Is that a no LEGO sets at all, or a no direct copies that you can make money
off of?
No piggybacking on Intellectual Property (IP) that is not your own – This includes
using brand names, trademarks, and reference numbers in the title, description,
tags, image, or your username in order to draw attention to your design. If IP
you do not own is used in this way, your design may be set to Display mode by
our moderation team. Copies of existing LEGO® sets are also considered an infraction
under this rule.
Also it says no brand names yet on the published studio creations I see dozens
of brand name cars, and movie based creations.
What’s going on?!?!?
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| Author: | TeeBoxLu | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2024 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: seller quoting unlawful tax terms/conditions | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, TeeBoxLu writes:
| | I was forced into a civil exchange of info to get a tax refund from a CDN store.
Store terms and condition on first page and in bold red on splash page tell everyone
they have to pay 13% Ontario tax.
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They shouldn't?
I mean, view from the outside we may not know.
| | In comments to the store I said "I look
forward to seeing a change in your terms and conditions". And then I asked
if they would do so. There has been no response or change. I cannot leave any
positive feedback. Would you? I want to warn other buyers. Is there some way
to force this store to get honest? Or is it all buyer beware?
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If it's Tax related and you're pretty sure about you; then yes,
please report the Shop - this isn't tolerated on BrickLink AFAIK.
Either here:
https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
Or open a Ticket.
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Thank You for your help.
I gave this shop every chance to do the right thing.
Then I reported it to the link you gave me.
After receiving my goods I posted neutral feedback.
I do not know if the store changed their terms and splash page because of my
feedback or the complaint.
Doesn't matter.
He was never going to be honest without a tussle.
Now others might not get tax scammed by this store.
Of course he is upset with me. Oh well 
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 03:26 | | Subject: | Re: seller quoting unlawful tax terms/conditions | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, TeeBoxLu writes:
| | I was forced into a civil exchange of info to get a tax refund from a CDN store.
Store terms and condition on first page and in bold red on splash page tell everyone
they have to pay 13% Ontario tax. In comments to the store I said "I look
forward to seeing a change in your terms and conditions". And then I asked
if they would do so. There has been no response or change. I cannot leave any
positive feedback. Would you? I want to warn other buyers. Is there some way
to force this store to get honest? Or is it all buyer beware?
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I wouldn't have ordered if I disagreed with the seller's terms.
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 21:23 | | Subject: | Re: About commercial use of studio | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I think it is fine. It is allowed to build a MOC out of LEGO pieces and to sell
the MOC (or instructions to build it) even if the LEGO pieces themselves are
the intellectual property of the LEGO Group.
It is like an artist making a painting. Even if the paint used by the artist
is the intellectual property of the paint company, it is okay to sell the painting.
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Whaaat? To paint LEGO bricks?!
You're either confused or criminal, dear Chicken McBrick.
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I like build my own canvases out of LEGO bricks. It's my signature style.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 21:20 | | Subject: | Re: About commercial use of studio | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| | | I think it is fine. It is allowed to build a MOC out of LEGO pieces and to sell
the MOC (or instructions to build it) even if the LEGO pieces themselves are
the intellectual property of the LEGO Group.
It is like an artist making a painting. Even if the paint used by the artist
is the intellectual property of the paint company, it is okay to sell the painting.
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Whaaat? To paint LEGO bricks?!
You're either confused or criminal, dear Chicken McBrick.
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 21:07 | | Subject: | Re: seller quoting unlawful tax terms/conditions | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, TeeBoxLu writes:
| | I was forced into a civil exchange of info to get a tax refund from a CDN store.
Store terms and condition on first page and in bold red on splash page tell everyone
they have to pay 13% Ontario tax. In comments to the store I said "I look
forward to seeing a change in your terms and conditions". And then I asked
if they would do so. There has been no response or change. I cannot leave any
positive feedback. Would you? I want to warn other buyers. Is there some way
to force this store to get honest? Or is it all buyer beware?
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Did you pay?
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 21:03 | | Subject: | Re: About commercial use of studio | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Niclear writes:
| | thank you for your reply.
The content of the work is my original work.
This is not a derivative work.
The same goes for the characters that appear.
One thing to be concerned about is that since parts from the Bionicle and Hero
Factory series are used, the designs of those parts themselves may have intellectual
property rights.
I have attached an image as an example.
The armor on the shoulders, chest, and arms are from the Hero Factory series.
Does the armor design itself have copyright or intellectual property rights?
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I think it is fine. It is allowed to build a MOC out of LEGO pieces and to sell
the MOC (or instructions to build it) even if the LEGO pieces themselves are
the intellectual property of the LEGO Group.
It is like an artist making a painting. Even if the paint used by the artist
is the intellectual property of the paint company, it is okay to sell the painting.
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| Author: | samsam2 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 20:35 | | Subject: | Re: seller quoting unlawful tax terms/conditions | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, TeeBoxLu writes:
| | I was forced into a civil exchange of info to get a tax refund from a CDN store.
Store terms and condition on first page and in bold red on splash page tell everyone
they have to pay 13% Ontario tax. In comments to the store I said "I look
forward to seeing a change in your terms and conditions". And then I asked
if they would do so. There has been no response or change. I cannot leave any
positive feedback. Would you? I want to warn other buyers. Is there some way
to force this store to get honest? Or is it all buyer beware?
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A Bricklink store that is also a GST registrant, must include their GST number
on a receipt or invoice and must collect GST on sales to Canadian addresses.
Some stores feel they can claim they are collecting GST to offset their GST cost
when they are not legally a GST registrant, this is not legal. The problem I
think you are explaining is that they are charging you the Ontario rate when
you are in Alberta, which is incorrect, they need to stop.
Are they doing this as a way to offer instant checkout and then refunding the
overcharged tax after the fact? I heard of one store doing this, but i haven't
shopped there myself. I understand their reasoning although I don't agree.
You shouldn't have to ask for the refund of the difference, that's where
it gets sketchy.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 20:04 | | Subject: | Re: seller quoting unlawful tax terms/conditions | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, TeeBoxLu writes:
| | I was forced into a civil exchange of info to get a tax refund from a CDN store.
Store terms and condition on first page and in bold red on splash page tell everyone
they have to pay 13% Ontario tax.
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They shouldn't?
I mean, view from the outside we may not know.
| | In comments to the store I said "I look
forward to seeing a change in your terms and conditions". And then I asked
if they would do so. There has been no response or change. I cannot leave any
positive feedback. Would you? I want to warn other buyers. Is there some way
to force this store to get honest? Or is it all buyer beware?
|
If it's Tax related and you're pretty sure about you; then yes,
please report the Shop - this isn't tolerated on BrickLink AFAIK.
Either here:
https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
Or open a Ticket.
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| Author: | TeeBoxLu | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 18:58 | | Subject: | seller quoting unlawful tax terms/conditions | | Viewed: | 250 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| I was forced into a civil exchange of info to get a tax refund from a CDN store.
Store terms and condition on first page and in bold red on splash page tell everyone
they have to pay 13% Ontario tax. In comments to the store I said "I look
forward to seeing a change in your terms and conditions". And then I asked
if they would do so. There has been no response or change. I cannot leave any
positive feedback. Would you? I want to warn other buyers. Is there some way
to force this store to get honest? Or is it all buyer beware?
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| Author: | Niclear | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2024 20:52 | | Subject: | Re: About commercial use of studio | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Niclear writes:
| | I am Japanese
Please forgive me because I'm not good at English.
A screenshot of the MOC created in studio
Is it against the rules to create and sell manga works?
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I don't think there's this kind of limitation to Studio usage.
But of course, LEGO or BrickLink aren't responsible of what you're doing
or can't do; it's "AS IS".
But the most important point is the Manga you're about to create and sell,
like characters, are they invented and have no Intellectual Property?
Otherwise, please note the proper Studio forum is:
https://forum.bricklink.com/
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thank you for your reply.
The content of the work is my original work.
This is not a derivative work.
The same goes for the characters that appear.
One thing to be concerned about is that since parts from the Bionicle and Hero
Factory series are used, the designs of those parts themselves may have intellectual
property rights.
I have attached an image as an example.
The armor on the shoulders, chest, and arms are from the Hero Factory series.
Does the armor design itself have copyright or intellectual property rights?
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2024 07:08 | | Subject: | Re: About commercial use of studio | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Niclear writes:
| | I am Japanese
Please forgive me because I'm not good at English.
A screenshot of the MOC created in studio
Is it against the rules to create and sell manga works?
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I don't think there's this kind of limitation to Studio usage.
But of course, LEGO or BrickLink aren't responsible of what you're doing
or can't do; it's "AS IS".
But the most important point is the Manga you're about to create and sell,
like characters, are they invented and have no Intellectual Property?
Otherwise, please note the proper Studio forum is:
https://forum.bricklink.com/
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