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 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Sep 6, 2019 10:54
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 329-1
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In Inventories Requests, steelant writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 329  Name: Antique Car
* 
329-1 (Inv) Antique Car
111 Parts, 1967
Sets: Classic: Vehicle: Traffic

* Change 4 Part Black {3009 Brick 1 x 6 to CRSSPRT02 Brick 1 x 6 without Bottom Tubes, with Cross Supports}
* Change 3 Part Black {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}
* Change 20 Part Light Gray {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Clear {3009 Brick 1 x 6 to CRSSPRT02 Brick 1 x 6 without Bottom Tubes, with Cross Supports}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Clear {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}
* Change 3 Part Yellow {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}

Comments from Submitter:
The information comes from the opening of a "mint-in-box" unopened set (Samsonite). I opened the set to verify the pieces. I also have info on what "lego logo's" are on the studs, to ensure era-specific correctness if interested.

It's great to get info from unopened sets and that people take their time
to correct old inventory lists. Still, there is a problem. This new inventory
means that the old inventory was crap. I don't think it was. Is it dead certain
that the sets released in for example Europe contained exactly the same parts
as the Samsonite versions? I think that the parts 3009 and 3023 should have remained
as alternate parts. Also, what about the sellers of set 329 having painstakingly
collected the parts in order to sell this set? Now, they need to start the process
all over again. The BL method of inventory list making should allow some variations
which are highly probable.
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Jul 5, 2019 05:26
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 160-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 160  Name: Magnetic Couplings
* 
160-1 (Inv) Magnetic Couplings
6 Parts, 1968
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 4.5V

* Add 3 Part 737ac02 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
* Add 3 Part 737ac01 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
In my unopened set the cylinders are short. Don't know if I should suggest it as alternate part or regular part. I have photos, but can't see on this page how to add them. Johan

Hi there, Johan!

Did you measure the length of all of the red and blue cylinders to make sure
they were all 7mm long?

Thanks,
Randy

Hi!
Yes, they are all 7 mm long.
Johan
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Jul 3, 2019 13:47
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 160-1
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In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 160  Name: Magnetic Couplings
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160-1 (Inv) Magnetic Couplings
6 Parts, 1968
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 4.5V

* Add 3 Part 737ac02 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
* Add 3 Part 737ac01 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
In my unopened set the cylinders are short. Don't know if I should suggest it as alternate part or regular part. I have photos, but can't see on this page how to add them. Johan
 


 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Jun 29, 2019 07:40
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 160-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 160  Name: Magnetic Couplings
* 
160-1 (Inv) Magnetic Couplings
6 Parts, 1968
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 4.5V

* Add 3 Part 737ac02 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
* Add 3 Part 737ac01 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
In my unopened set the cylinders are short. Don't know if I should suggest it as alternate part or regular part. I have photos, but can't see on this page how to add them. Johan
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 8, 2019 17:40
 Subject: 3009p01
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Hi!
I would just like to know if the entry 3009p01 encompasses entry 3009p01e (embossed
print), since there is no separate entry 3009p01s with surface print (or whatever
part id the part with surface print would receive)?

Johan
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 4, 2019 11:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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Hi Paul!
I don't have any source for this suggestion. So you won't approve it.
But it's so frustrating. I order brick with solid pattern, and receive stencil
pattern, invariably. It's so difficult to understand how you can be so sure
that set 310 could not contain the brick with stencil pattern instead of solid
pattern? They are so similar and most sellers on BL don't know the difference.
How can you be sure that those people in the factory in the 1960s who amassed
the parts to put in the set did not sometimes put in the brick with stencil pattern?

My life would be more happy if the stencil pattern would be listed as alternate
part. If it's listed as alternate who would be hurt by this? These inventory
lists on BL determine so much here on BL, and I would hope that BL administrators
could consider the possibility. And this is also the case for other parts, for
example 1x4 brick car grilles, where the sellers here on BL do the same thing.
They send surface print when I order embossed print, and when I order embossed
print, they send surface print.
I'm getting so tired of this. Lego is supposed to be fun. Why can't the
administrators on BL list more alternates in the inventory lists? For example
if a brick is listed as surface print, cannot the embossed print always be listed
as alternate, and vice versa?

Cheers
Johan


In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 310  Name: Motorized Truck Set
* 
310-1 (Inv) Motorized Truck Set
181 Parts, 1969
Sets: Samsonite: Model Maker: Traffic

* Add 2 Part 3009pb039 Blue Brick 1 x 6 with White 'TRANSPORT' Stencil Pattern (Alternate)

Could you please let me know what your source is for making this request?

Thanks,
Paul
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 4, 2019 10:43
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 088-1
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Thanks for your answer!
I'm a buyer on BL, so when I look at the inventory list for, for example
set 335-2, I see 1 entry for 445 yellow door 1x3x4 Left. So this is an "undetermined"
entry and encompasses door 445a? How am I supposed to know this?

I hesitate to submit "catalog entries for the thick-handled versions of the doors",
as you suggest. This will have commercial repercussions and some people who have
painstakingly amassed the set with original parts for sale on BL suddenly have
to find the type of door which you decide to list as the correct entry, if they
have the other type of door in their set for sale. I don't understand why
this problem cannot be solved by listing both type of doors in all the sets with
these types of doors, one type as alternative.

Could I also ask here for my other message on suggestions, about part 3009p01.
Is this part also an undetermined entry and encompasses 3009p01e? Because I have
ordered 3009p01 from 6 sellers on BL, and they have all sent me 3009p01e. And
part 3009p01e is not listed in any inventory.

For me as a buyer on BL it is difficult to understand that all these doors with
thin handle and part 3009p01, and other parts as well, are so plentiful on the
market here on BL, but do not appear in any set (except 341).

Yours truly

Johan


In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
* 
088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 3195a Yellow Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 3194a Yellow Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)

You have not yet responded to my question on all of your other pending inventory
change requests, but I have the same one here.

Could you please let me know what your source is for making this request?

Thanks,
Randy

Hi Randy!
Did you read my message in Suggestions posted on April 21?

I did now.

  There's something
wrong if BL is overflowing with all these utility doors with thin handle, but
those doors only appear in the inventory of one set (341-1).

Firstly, the doors with thin handle were only added to the BrickLink catalog
about one year ago. Therefore, until that point, there were only the original
entries for both versions of the doors (basically "undetermined" entries) as
they had not been separately recognized yet. Sellers could, in effect, only list
both versions of the doors under the original entries that were available.

Secondly, the doors with thick handle have not been added separately to the catalog
yet, so the original door entries are still "undetermined" entries and can contain
both versions of the doors. Sellers that have realized there are thin-handled
entries for the doors can choose to list their doors using those entries, but
they don't have to at this point because the original entries have not yet
been marked for deletion. Since the original entries have not been marked for
deletion, all of the relevant inventories that contain these entries are still
basically correct.

Thirdly, the reason the thin-handled doors only appear in one inventory is because
I researched that one set when you made a past Inventory Change Request and found
convincing evidence that the thin-handled doors had appeared in that set. I would
not have made the change without finding convincing proof, and I would not have
just referred to the box images or instructions for such a decision. At this
point, I do not have the time to go and research all of the other sets that you
are asking to make changes to.

  Why does nobody answer my suggestion posted on April 21?

The "Suggestions" topic is for posting things that you believe the BrickLink
development team should look into. It is not for posting things that deal with
the BrickLink catalog and BrickLink inventories. There are separate topics for
those that are monitored by the volunteer catalog and inventories administrators.

  If you look at the boxes
of all the sets I have made inv. change requests to, plus the instructions, I
think it's pretty clear that you see doors with thin handle. Don't you?

We do not make changes to inventories based on just set images or set instructions.

  For set 088-1 one could look at the big leaflet accompanying the set, there you
see doors with thin handle.

I only suggest the doors with thin handle as an alternate, so there should be
no commercial repercussions for sellers or buyers having amassed the parts for
these sets and looking for doors with open handle.

As stated above, sellers are free to list both versions of the doors under the
current entries because they are "undetermined" entries and do not represent
a specific variant of the part. If sellers want to use the thin-handled door
entries to list that specific version, then they are free to do so at this time,
but they are not currently required to. Once thick-handled entries have been
added to the BrickLink catalog and the original entries have been marked for
deletion, then sellers will be forced to choose which variant they need to list
under. Maybe you would be so inclined to submit catalog entries for the thick-handled
versions of the doors to get the process moving along more quickly?

  So my source is instructions and box covers for all the other sets, and the leaflet
for set 088.
Yours truly
Johan

If you do not have any proof besides instructions and box covers for all of these
sets, then I cannot accept any of them at this time. As stated before, since
all of the inventories currently contain "undetermined" entries, all of the inventories
are basically correct.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 3, 2019 13:50
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 088-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
* 
088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 3195a Yellow Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 3194a Yellow Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)

You have not yet responded to my question on all of your other pending inventory
change requests, but I have the same one here.

Could you please let me know what your source is for making this request?

Thanks,
Randy

Hi Randy!
Did you read my message in Suggestions posted on April 21? There's something
wrong if BL is overflowing with all these utility doors with thin handle, but
those doors only appear in the inventory of one set (341-1).
Why does nobody answer my suggestion posted on April 21? If you look at the boxes
of all the sets I have made inv. change requests to, plus the instructions, I
think it's pretty clear that you see doors with thin handle. Don't you?
For set 088-1 one could look at the big leaflet accompanying the set, there you
see doors with thin handle.

I only suggest the doors with thin handle as an alternate, so there should be
no commercial repercussions for sellers or buyers having amassed the parts for
these sets and looking for doors with open handle.

So my source is instructions and box covers for all the other sets, and the leaflet
for set 088.
Yours truly
Johan
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 3, 2019 13:20
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 310  Name: Motorized Truck Set
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310-1 (Inv) Motorized Truck Set
181 Parts, 1969
Sets: Samsonite: Model Maker: Traffic

* Add 2 Part 3009pb039 Blue Brick 1 x 6 with White 'TRANSPORT' Stencil Pattern (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 2, 2019 14:36
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 088-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
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088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 3195a Yellow Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 3194a Yellow Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 2, 2019 14:35
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 088-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
* 
088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 445a Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 446a Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 2, 2019 14:34
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
* 
088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 3195a Blue Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 3194a Blue Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 2, 2019 14:32
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
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088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Add 1 Part 445a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 446a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Apr 29, 2019 16:14
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 336-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 336  Name: Fire Engine
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336-1 (Inv) Fire Engine
76 Parts, 1968
Sets: Classic: Vehicle: Fire

* Add 2 Part 3189a Red Door 1 x 3 x 2 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 2 Part 3188a Red Door 1 x 3 x 2 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Apr 29, 2019 16:10
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 335-2
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 335  Name: Transport Truck
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335-2 (Inv) Transport Truck
99 Parts, 1967
Sets: Classic: Vehicle: Cargo

* Add 1 Part 445a Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 446a Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Apr 29, 2019 16:06
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 310  Name: Motorized Truck Set
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310-1 (Inv) Motorized Truck Set
181 Parts, 1969
Sets: Samsonite: Model Maker: Traffic

* Add 1 Part 3194a Blue Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 3195a Blue Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
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 Posted: Apr 29, 2019 16:04
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 333  Name: Delivery Truck
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333-2 (Inv) Delivery Truck
68 Parts, 1967
Sets: Classic: Vehicle: Cargo

* Add 1 Part 3194a Blue Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 1 Part 3195a Blue Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: Apr 21, 2019 11:12
 Subject: utility doors with thin handle.
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Hi!

I bet you that many of the doors 3188, 3189, 3192, 3193, 3194, 3195, 445 and
446 marketed on this site are in fact doors with thin handle, which means that
they are incorrectly marketed.

Isn't that a problem for a market place, and shouldn't BL solve this
problem?

The doors with thin handle should be marketed under the part id 3188a, 3189a,
3192a, 3193a, 3194a, 3195a, 445a and 446a.

So the doors with thin handle are more plentiful on the market, sellers almost
always sends me the door with thin handle when they should have sent me the door
with a vertical hole beside the handle. Some sellers, which I admire, label the
door with the description "open handle" whereas the thin handle door they label
"closed handle".

At the same time, all these doors with thin handle only turn up on the inventory
list of one, that is 1, set on BL, set 341-1!

BL could solve this by inserting the door with thin handle as an alternative
in all those sets which contain the relevant doors. Or say that the door with
thin handle is the normal part, whereas the door with open handle is an alternative.
This would stop the potential for disputes between buyers and sellers, and make
life easier here on BL.

Also I wish that BL would instruct the sellers on BL to label their doors correctly.

Johan
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 Posted: Apr 21, 2019 10:48
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Hello!

I bet you that more than half of the bricks marketed here on BL as 3009p01 are
in fact 3009p01e.

Isn't that a problem for a market place?

I have been buying several lately and always I have received the brick with embossed
print.
At the same time the surface print 3009p01 is said by BL to be included in 19
sets, whereas 3009p01e isn't appearing in any set at all. The brick with
embossed print is (probably) more plentiful on the market but it shouldn't
appear in any set?

I think BL could resolve this by inserting in those 19 inventory lists the 3009p01e
as an alternative part?

It would stop the potential for disputes between byers and sellers and diminish
aggravation.

At the same time I think BL should instruct the sellers on BL to learn the difference
between surface print and embossed print, so that they could label their products
correctly.

Johan
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 Posted: Feb 11, 2019 16:27
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 341-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 341  Name: Warehouse
* 
341-1 (Inv) Warehouse
123 Parts, 1968
Sets: Classic: Building

* Add 4 Part 445a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 4 Part 446a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
I only want to add 445a and 446a as alternative part. If you look at the instructions and the box it could very well be the door with thin handle. Since you don't have 445a and 446a as a part in any inventory list, I cannot find the item id. This would affect all sets with doors 3188, 3189, 3195, 3194, 445 and 446, to have the door with thin handle as alternative. Regards, Johan

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