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Nothing much to add, besides that I wanted also one and didn't have the chance
to get one, because it was sold out in no time... Hope they will make it available
again...!

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Brickwilbo

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 12:36

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Re: Designer Program Question

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In LEGO, tpabrad writes:

So the first phase has a 40 day time limit or whatever it is, but the let project
Is about to sell out already which pretty much ends the first phase? Does this
mean it will get produced quicker now or is it still going to be 6 months
out? It’s pretty crazy how fast this went and really shows the great demand.
Based on what could be in the second phase it might even go faster than that.
I personally think they should either raise the limit for being sold out or at
least bring down the max you can get to like 2 so that more can go around.

I think timeframe is clearly the same for all 7 designs so all have a change
to become produced.

Author:

usctaylor13

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 12:30

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Re: Designer Program Question

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They released a note about the program and the disgruntled comments so it looks
like they might take more orders on some of these sets. I think it will still
be January 2022 for lead time on production.

Author:

tpabrad

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 11:48

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Designer Program Question

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Author:

Pam_Shaver

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:37

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Re: So now what?

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Thank you.

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:34

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Re: So now what?

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In LEGO, Pam_Shaver writes:

Yes, my card says pending. Will it stay pending until January?

Yes. It is essentially a hold on your card for the amount, but not an actual
charge. That is how they verify the payment details are correct. If something
happens to the production, then the hold will be released and you won't be
charges. Otherwise, when they ship, the hold will process and you will be formally
charged and billed.

Author:

Pam_Shaver

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:21

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Re: So now what?

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Yes, my card says pending. Will it stay pending until January?

Author:

Elkenwood

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:19

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Re: So now what?

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In LEGO, Pam_Shaver writes:

I bought 2 Castle in the Forest. Lego has charged my card already. When will
they be shipped? Do you think they will print or allow to be printed a hard
copy of the instructions? If I give them as gifts it would be nice to have the
instructions.

Are you sure it's actually been charged and not just showing up as a pending
transaction? Lego will make sure the card goes through, but shouldn't actually
charge your account until the set ships to your address in ~December of this
year.

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:06

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Re: So now what?

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In LEGO, Pam_Shaver writes:

This is from the page where you pre-ordered....right below the button.

"You will only be charged if this project is one of the first five projects to
receive 3,000 pre-orders, and only once the product is shipped to you. We estimate
the product will ship in January 2022.

The maximum pre-order quantity per person is 5."

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:04

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Re: So now what?

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In LEGO, Pam_Shaver writes:

Are you sure they have charged your card, and not just done a pre authorisation?
Isn't shipping at the start of 2022, or something similar?

Author:

Pam_Shaver

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 10:02

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So now what?

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Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 08:09

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, LordSkylark writes:

[…]
Maybe I don't understand what's going on (and there's probably not
a sure way to do so)... But, if I were a company, I would think the best method
would be to make the max unlimited and then close the number AFTER the 30 days
(or whatever) time expired. I would want to maximize my profits. In fact, the
more sets that are produced at any factory at one time, the less the cost for
each set it. Because the biggest time/cost factor is setting up the production
run itself for the first time.

It’s not so simple for LEGO: it’s not about setting an independent production
run, it’s about setting one production run amongst many other production runs,
all sharing (or not) base elements that are also production runs on their own.
It’s not like, say, a bottle maker who’d want to make a new kind of bottle: “just”
prepare the new mould, plan for the time you’ll use the machines or set a new
machine, plan for the raw material, et voilà.
It’s hundreds of sets made of around 10,000 parts (different shape & colour),
so hundreds of meta-bottles made of 10,000 bottles made from the raw material.

That being said, 5,000 was too low.

Author:

LordSkylark

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 00:53

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, wildchicken13 writes:

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

[…]
There is a lot of room between the length of time it took for the BL AFOL sets
to sell out and the 40 minutes it took the Castle in the Forest to sell out yesterday.
Yes, the variables were different, but ... 40 minutes? I can't imagine that
was expected.

Indeed not. They apparently only expected double the ADP backers / half the
Ideas clickers.

The 3,000 minimum is understandable. And I guess they have lots of reasons for
setting a max (parts availability, with other sets to produce, relatively short
time to produce / manage supply, etc.).
Still, if the biggest toy seller in the world can’t predict anything, repeatedly….

If you add the no-more-exclusives fiasco (
AFOLs: Stop making exclusives! We all want to buy everything!
TLG: Okay, we hear you! No more regional exclusives, pinky swear! … BTW, here
are new sets exclusive to East Asia, and here’s another one for the SDCC, and,
and, and…. )
and other very limited limited editions, it’s like TLG only wants to sell (expensive)
collectibles, not toys, and only to scalpers.

Pure speculation here, but I think the artificial scarcity motivates people to
buy that might not otherwise. I can always put off buying a regular LEGO set
knowing that it will probably be available for a few years, but the same is not
true of a designer program set. Of course, LEGO could probably sell more than
5,000 of each if they made them regular sets, but it would probably take more
than a day.

Maybe I don't understand what's going on (and there's probably not
a sure way to do so)... But, if I were a company, I would think the best method
would be to make the max unlimited and then close the number AFTER the 30 days
(or whatever) time expired. I would want to maximize my profits. In fact, the
more sets that are produced at any factory at one time, the less the cost for
each set it. Because the biggest time/cost factor is setting up the production
run itself for the first time.

Author:

Warp

Posted:

Jul 3, 2021 00:33

Subject:

Re: Question re: Designer Program Order

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Fantastic, thanks!

In other words, the authorizations will likely expire and you will be charged
the correct amount when the orders ship. Be sure to have the funds available
in January, unless the date changes.

Already, I am anticipating being shocked by January/December's CC bill

Author:

randyipp

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 23:30

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Admin_Russell writes:

We had two hard limits on production, the first being the parts themselves (we
had enough for 2500 sets each) and the second being the instructions (which we
overpurchased in relation to anticipated demand). During the last week of the
sales period we listed what we had up to the hard limits and resellers decided
to buy or not. Based on what they bought, we changed our production schedule
to accommodate and delivered the product in 2-3 months.

Thanks for the info Russell, the perspective looking from the outside in was
different than what was going on.

I really appreciated the beyond the brick that had you in it in explaining some
of the Afol designer program, then the other one with the process showing how
the sets were packaged. I assume we wot be getting any coverage like that this
time, would have been great to see the new process.

Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 22:52

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Re: Question re: Designer Program Order

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You should not have been "charged" for the sets already.

If you paid with a credit card, then the authorization may be reflected in your
available credit limit and will likely go away in a couple weeks.

Paying with a debit card should be similar, expect the authorization may have
temporary held funds from your checking account.

In other words, the authorizations will likely expire and you will be charged
the correct amount when the orders ship. Be sure to have the funds available
in January, unless the date changes.

In LEGO, Warp writes:

Hi all,

I was lucky enough to order 4 sets from the Designer Program event, 3 of which
were funded. The 4th one (Particle Accelerator, sad!) was canceled.

reading the program FAQ at https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/support/main.page#crowdfunding-and-pre-orders
under the heading What will happen to my pre-order when the project I supported
is not realized?, am I understanding correctly that TLG will partially
refund my order & ship the other 3 sets?

Thanks in advance!

Author:

Warp

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 22:44

Subject:

Question re: Designer Program Order

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Author:

gideon84

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 19:32

Subject:

Re: Designer Program - Limit of 1 then later on 5

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In Suggestions, _djm writes:

Given the disappointment expressed by a number of BrickLink users with regard
to missing out on the chance to buy one of the round 1 Designer Program sets,
perhaps BrickLink would consider the following for subsequent rounds.

a) For the first week following the start of a round, the maximum number of sets
that can be purchased is one.
b) After the first week, the maximum is increased to five.

This approach would increase the number of users who could buy a set while still
allowing LEGO the certainty of obtaining the necessary volume of sales to make
the program viable.

Regards,

David

I don’t disagree. I think the real issue is how LEGO has far underestimated the
popularity of some of these sets though. Also, by incentivizing the buyers to
pre-order quickly with the idea of “limited production,” they (TLG) unknowingly
/unintentionally encouraged scalping. I bought multiple sets of one certain project,
but I bought it because I really like the theme and will do so regardless how
many sets LEGO makes them.

Personally, I think another solution is to increase the production of number
of sets altogether(to 20,000, for example) or simply let people continue to order
until the end of the crowdfunding period, with the limit staying at 5. This way,
all parties involved will get what they want. IMO, if a project isn’t attractive
enough to get past the 3k threshold without making it “exclusive” or “limited,”
it simply isn’t a project worth being made anyways.

Author:

amvdamian

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 19:01

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, amvdamian writes:

In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Wow! It's only the 2nd of July and there is nothing more to order!

There’s still Kakapo (the parrot). Well, it’s not reached 5,000 on the main
page.

Sold out in UK too. The "still available (but not really)" type of advertising
is annoying but not really unexpected.

This level enthusiasm from the community should really get Lego thinking about
Ideas more seriously.

Author:

Tracyd

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 17:00

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, wildchicken13 writes:

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

Yeah might take 2 days at this rate.

Author:

wildchicken13

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:56

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

Author:

Tracyd

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:39

Subject:

Re: Designer Program - Limit of 1 then later on 5

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In Suggestions, _djm writes:

It is viable at 5x the current limit, thou they need a better choosing of projects.
Whether they want to is another story.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:36

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, amvdamian writes:

In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Wow! It's only the 2nd of July and there is nothing more to order!

There’s still Kakapo (the parrot). Well, it’s not reached 5,000 on the main
page.

Sold out in UK too. The "still available (but not really)" type of advertising
is annoying but not really unexpected.

Author:

_djm

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:36

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Designer Program - Limit of 1 then later on 5

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Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:29

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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All items appear to be sold out in the USA.

There’s still Kakapo (the parrot). Well, it’s not reached 5,000 on the main
page.

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:28

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, amvdamian writes:

In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Wow! It's only the 2nd of July and there is nothing more to order!

There’s still Kakapo (the parrot). Well, it’s not reached 5,000 on the main
page.

Depends on the region. It's sold out in the US.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:24

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, amvdamian writes:

In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Wow! It's only the 2nd of July and there is nothing more to order!

There’s still Kakapo (the parrot). Well, it’s not reached 5,000 on the main
page.

Author:

Admin_Russell

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:21

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

In LEGO, Admin_Russell writes:

Actually we did not have too many in ADP. We produced the exact amount needed.
But we did have a short window of B2B sales at the end where we sold them at
the wholesale level.

Ah, I assumed it was too many as I don't remember this happening with the
castle set that sold out. But of course I wasn't really paying that much
attention then as most of those sets weren't ones I was looking for.

Trying to understand how if you made exactly how many sets were pre-ordered how
did you have more sets to sell B2B? Or are you saying you made exactly how
many Bricklink wanted to make, not how many were pre-ordered, which sounds a
lot like you had extra? Could there have been that many cancellations?

Author:

amvdamian

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 16:15

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Wow! It's only the 2nd of July and there is nothing more to order!

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 14:33

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 14:02

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, randyipp writes:

[…]
Tanja brings up the 5k number and how it may seems low but the calculations used
some information from the Afol designer program.

Okay, so they got surprised that a program that was:
— not the first one,
— totally backed up and advertized by TLG, the biggest brand on Earth,
— with projects already known to AFOLs through LEGO Ideas,
was way more than twice successful than a program that was:
— a total unknown,
— from a, let’s be honest, not so widely known / trusted entity,
— hampered by “shipped from the US” by said company with no history of ever having
shipped anything, with added import VAT and other fees.

[…]
The good thig is that Lego isn't stupid, as they see the response
from this they will no doubt change in the future, I don't think they want
to make people mad or leave money on the table.

Okay… too bad it happend on a Thursday, in July… because the crickets are all
we are hearing now

There is a lot of room between the length of time it took for the BL AFOL sets
to sell out and the 40 minutes it took the Castle in the Forest to sell out yesterday.
Yes, the variables were different, but ... 40 minutes? I can't imagine that
was expected.

Author:

randyipp

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 13:41

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Admin_Russell writes:

Actually we did not have too many in ADP. We produced the exact amount needed.
But we did have a short window of B2B sales at the end where we sold them at
the wholesale level.

Author:

Admin_Russell

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 13:27

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

In LEGO, Stellar writes:

Check this: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1276997

Here Tanja says to Martin that Lego will pack some of the parts of the sets.

Actually we did not have too many in ADP. We produced the exact amount needed.
But we did have a short window of B2B sales at the end where we sold them at
the wholesale level.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 12:58

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

[…]
Tanja brings up the 5k number and how it may seems low but the calculations used
some information from the Afol designer program.

[…]
The good thig is that Lego isn't stupid, as they see the response
from this they will no doubt change in the future, I don't think they want
to make people mad or leave money on the table.

Okay… too bad it happend on a Thursday, in July… because the crickets are all
we are hearing now

Author:

randyipp

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 12:23

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Stellar writes:

Check this: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1276997

Here Tanja says to Martin that Lego will pack some of the parts of the sets.

Wow, thanks for this. There was a lot of great info here. I would suggest to
anyone that they take a listen as well.

Tanja brings up the 5k number and how it may seems low but the calculations used
some information from the Afol designer program.

I remember that Bricklink had to liquidate some sets at the end due to having
too many, maybe they wanted to make sure that didn't happen again, so 5k
on the more popular sets would be low but 5k on the last set to get funded might
be too many. The good thig is that Lego isn't stupid, as they see the response
from this they will no doubt change in the future, I don't think they want
to make people mad or leave money on the table.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 12:16

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, treczoks writes:

[…]
I bought two sets and reached my personal purchase
limit for this month. I would have loved to also buy the boat and the parrot,
but that would be too much. If you put up just one set every other week, people
could better spread their spendings, and thus spend more.

You actually didn’t pay anything yet: you’ve just authorized the operation that
will occur when the set ships.

“When will I be charged for my order?
The LEGO Shop will charge your credit card, debit card or PayPal account when
your order is shipped.” https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/support/main.page

Author:

hpoort

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 11:01

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, wildchicken13 writes:

I've always wondered how LEGO makes sets. I used to sell custom sets and
the process of making them by hand is tedious; I am sure that LEGO has a better
(i.e., automated) way. Perhaps someone here with insider knowledge can share
(or perhaps they are not allowed?)

I also wonder how Pick-A-Brick and Bricks & Pieces work. Does LEGO produce the
parts to order, or do they maintain a stockpile? I usually buy parts in large
quantities, but there is no minimum average lot value, so what would happen if
I ordered one of everything?

You can find out by deduction by browsing sources like YouTube, seeing how things
are packed and reading around on sites like NewElementary (or Bricklink). There
is a video where Russell proudly gives a tour around the Bricklink facility while
they where packing the previous run of sets. There are several videos of How
It's Made - LEGO or factory tours.

Brick & Pieces: those are handpicked (stated in their help section). There are
limits to lot size (I believe: 200 pc) and number of lots (100 or 200?)

Pick-A-Brick: appears to be mostly automated: that's why there is a limited
selection of parts, that are likely automatically counted with a series of counting
carrousels. Judging by my experiences with no more than a few PaB orders, I'd
say they are partly manually packed (smaller or bigger size bag). I think they
will still use the weight checking to assure completeness.

Sets: almost completely automated. For a small set (one bag): a carousel with
bins of each of the parts used in this set. The storage facility is fully automated
(see YouTube documentary) so it is guaranteed the proper parts are transported
from the mega warehouse to the exact bin on the carousel. The carousel counts
out the exact amount of parts designed for this set. Parts are collected in a
bin, automatically wrapped in a bag, checked by weight and transported to the
next stage in packaging. If there is a weight mismatch, parts are ejected into
a manual check line.

The carousel process is repeated for as many bags as are needed to complete the
set. If those are many, then small bags are simply treated as if they were one
big part in one of the bins of the next carousel.

Since weight checking is accurate but still has some tolerances, and because
small parts then to get lost easily, LEGO designs the set content to have 1 extra
of those in each bag. There is an entire department at TLG that just does this:
designing how the parts are distributed over the bags for the ultimate building
experience, with the best reliability and the least damage of the parts.

The only manual action I have seen in those documentaries was the occasional
re-counting of ejected bags and sometimes the final packing of the set boxes
in wholesale boxes.

The warehouse is fully automated: huge, tens of meters high, hundreds across,
not accessible by humans at all. Barcoded or chipped transport containers
moved around by self driving robots. Parts are continuously produced to refill
the warehouse. Planning will be based upon capacity (some 1.500 molding machines),
expected or planned demand (which sets, how many of those, how many parts in
each) et cetera. Entire departments of TLG are dedicated to such planning (or
likely: to develop the software to do this planning automatically). They know
not to produce more than will sell, to limit the number of different shapes and
colors they keep in current stock as they have learned the hard way not to overdo
it regarding variety. Producing with shortage ('limited edition', 'soon
out of stock' or simply 'out of stock'

in mind seems part of their
business model. Makes sense from a commercial standpoint.

Hope this helps releave some of your wondering - and makes you wonder even more
about the wonderful product the LEGO System really is.

Author:

treczoks

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 10:22

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Well, that turned out to be a big scalp-fest for the resellers. And a bad day
for normal customers.

Who comes up with so ridiculously low ceilings like 5000 sets? Yes, there are
sets that would probably never make that, but I'd bet you could have sold
10k of the castles yesterday with ease.

Two more things:

1. Publish the prices beforehand so we can see what to expect. Heck, by adding
a kind of vote beforehand like "How many of this set would you buy for €xxx/$yyy
a piece?" you could actually get an idea of the real demand.

2. Put up one set at a time. I bought two sets and reached my personal purchase
limit for this month. I would have loved to also buy the boat and the parrot,
but that would be too much. If you put up just one set every other week, people
could better spread their spendings, and thus spend more.

Author:

bernsa

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 09:43

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In LEGO, Hawmoon writes:

I'm surprised nobody has already written anything here...

I'm one of the thousands of people who wanted ONE

https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/designer-sets-for-adult-fans-of-lego/215665/Castle-in-the-Forest

Scalpers are already on eBay selling it 4 times its price

Can anything be done, as there's still 41 days to go?

Giorgio

I mean, I've pretty much exited the hobby over the way TLG conducts business.
I came back in to see how this new round of crowdfunding would play out (I was
happy with the previous iteration - pre TLG's purchase of BL), and disappointed
to see it's gone exactly the way I sort of predicted. TLG honestly, I feel,
just doesn't want to reward faithful customers and is openly hostile to collectors,
and does nothing but seem to encourage the concept of scalping with forced scarcity
and hype. I've stopped rewarding TLG with my business... completely. I have
enough LEGO for my lifetime, and I don't think I ever need to buy another
set again.

TLG does not even comprehend crowdfunding. I have backed hundreds of tabletop
games on crowd funding site(s) HEY- That's because I stopped buying TLG's
products. Rarely are capacities capped in true crowdfunding. 99% of the time,
they want the widest participation rate they can get-- they SCALE UP supply
to meet the demand. If TLG tried to pull these types of shenanigans on a dedicated
crowdfunding site, they'd be brutally beat-down by backers off the platform.
They are not really listening to their customers and demand, but are always
coming at things from supply side control. Really upsetting that a company repeatedly
will not satisfy demand (e.g. scale up operations - invest in infrastructure)
to meet the demand, but continues to celebrate restricted supply as if it were
a good thing, which of course creates scalping (e.g. inflated pricing and restricted
availability) in and of itself. They've been sowing the seeds of scalping
for years, and by all appearances, really don't seem to think it's a
problem by failing to recognize it is a supply problem, not a demand problem.

Let's not even discuss the other benefit of crowdfunding, which is that
the backers are stakeholders in the product. They voice their opinions, recommendations,
concerns etc... I see none of that in this platform.

If you compare TLG's business to a large tabletop game business (I don't
want to break rules and name one - but one that routinely puts out miniatures
with popular IP) - the TTG industry will satisfy EVERY customer on the crowdfunding
site, even accepting late pledges. TLG, just doesn't care if everyone who
wants one of their products gets it... repeatedly... that's just business...
but hey, it's just business, I want nothing to do with buying TLG's products
anymore when that seems to be the outward appearance of their product availability
strategy.

I'm waiting for the day when TLG turns it around, and lets open economics
(open supply and open pricing - none of this fixed-pricing garbage) dictate their
business model. I might die before that happens, but que sera, sera. No skin
off my back if I never buy another TLG set again.

Author:

MrPetovan

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 08:48

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Unlike regular sets which popularity must be guessed in advance, crowdfunding
allows you to know exactly how many units people are ready to put money down
for since they actually do. From there you have all the time you need to adjust
resources. If I remember correctly the 5,000 sets limit was decided even before
the program was announced since it was part of the initial communication. I seem
to remember some people complaining about it even then, for good reasons.

In LEGO, randyipp writes:

Every limit would be arbitrary, maybe it is a matter of resources? Judging from
the last run, these sets take a lot of time and personnel to assemble. Even
if the number was 10k, people would still be upset.

I'm glad you don't mind the 3k limit to go into production, at least
that meets your needs. I think it should have been 1355, that seems like a number
I like and suits me better.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 08:46

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In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

[…]
There is definitely automation involved. In fact I am fairly certain that a lot
of extra pieces in sets are due to the fact that the machine that grabs the pieces
has a minimum number it can grab at a time, and for many smaller parts this number
is greater than one.

It’s done by weight.
And the machines are more or less precise in different factories.

For the older machines, the quantity is increased so that if it misses one, you
still get what’s needed (otherwise you get Extras).

But the new machines can weihgt “by 2”: if the bag needs one 1x1 round plate,
you get two, if it needs two, you also get two, 3 → 4, 4 → 4, etc.
Fewer Extras for us

Also, if TLG gets “enough” complaints for a missing part in a set, they increase
the quantity in the next production runs.

For example, have you noticed that there are never fewer
than 3 1x1 round plates of a given color in a set, regardless of how many are
used in building?

Nope, 2 is the minimum. I wish it were three, because “Three shalt be the number
thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt
thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.
Five is right out.”

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 08:23

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In LEGO, wildchicken13 writes:

There is definitely automation involved. In fact I am fairly certain that a lot
of extra pieces in sets are due to the fact that the machine that grabs the pieces
has a minimum number it can grab at a time, and for many smaller parts this number
is greater than one. For example, have you noticed that there are never fewer
than 3 1x1 round plates of a given color in a set, regardless of how many are
used in building?

The days of assembling sets by hand are long gone now.

I also wonder how Pick-A-Brick and Bricks & Pieces work. Does LEGO produce the
parts to order, or do they maintain a stockpile?

My guess is that they have a stockpile and it's mostly if not completely
made up of parts that were made for sets but not used for one reason or another
- like maybe they needed 1,000,000 for a given run of a set but producing 1,500,000
was more cost-effective (these numbers are made up).

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 05:28

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It is a shame that bricklink didn't get more of an advertising push with
this. Such as only registered BL users get priority to order, or users with 10
feedback, or even just prominent links to BL from the lego pages.

It is not a surprise they went so fast. Lego could do limited edition empty boxes
for $50/£50/€50 and they'd sell out.

Author:

Stellar

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 03:03

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

I really am surprised that Castle in the Forest sold out as quickly as it did.
My guess is that Lego wasn't expecting it either.

So was I, I planned on dedicating an hour of my time to make sure I got one at
11, but it took me until 11:14 to buy and by then it was already 1/2 way to 3k.

I have to think that Lego isn't going to be assembling the sets by hand like
BrickLink did 2 years ago, but I could be wrong.

So hard to know what the process is for Lego, it may be too cost prohibitive
to program the machines to get and pack the correct parts. Then again it might
be nothing for them, certainly a really interesting process I wouldn't mind
learning about. If they are giving themselves 5 months to fulfil orders it who
knows what the process is, and what kind of schedule they have for upcoming sets.
I know they can't keep up with some current sets still!

Check this: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1276997

Here Tanja says to Martin that Lego will pack some of the parts of the sets.

Author:

_djm

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 23:19

Subject:

Re: Designer Program - not Free Shipping

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If you were charged for shipping, please contact LEGO Consumer & Shopper Engagement
and ask for a refund on the shipping.

Thanks Admin_Russell,

however I fell for LEGO's bait and switch. Because the LEGO site said I would
be charged for shipping, I then spent more to buy other items which I wouldn't
have otherwise bought to take me to the standard amount to qualify for free shipping.

So will LEGO Consumer & Shopper Engagement turn around and giving me a credit
for the amount that I was told I would have been charged for shipping? As we
say in NZ, "Yeah, right".

My suggestion is that this really shouldn't have occurred in the first place.
So please liaise with headquarters for the next round to avoid a repeat. This
has left a sour taste in my mouth.

David

Author:

wildchicken13

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 22:53

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

I really am surprised that Castle in the Forest sold out as quickly as it did.
My guess is that Lego wasn't expecting it either.

So was I, I planned on dedicating an hour of my time to make sure I got one at
11, but it took me until 11:14 to buy and by then it was already 1/2 way to 3k.

I have to think that Lego isn't going to be assembling the sets by hand like
BrickLink did 2 years ago, but I could be wrong.

Author:

Admin_Russell

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 22:48

Subject:

Re: Designer Program - not Free Shipping

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In LEGO, _djm writes:

Perhaps BrickLink could amend the incorrect statement on the Designer Program
pages. It clearly states "Free Shipping" for the sets. When you click through
to lego.com to place an order, shipping is then charged for.

The "Free Shipping" claim is mis-leading. Perhaps it is free shipping in some
regions of the world but no qualifier was placed on the "Free Shipping" on the
page.

Please make an improvement for the next round of the Designer Program and don't
repeat this mis-leading advertising.

David

If you were charged for shipping, please contact LEGO Consumer & Shopper Engagement
and ask for a refund on the shipping.

Author:

randyipp

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 22:40

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, peregrinator writes:

I really am surprised that Castle in the Forest sold out as quickly as it did.
My guess is that Lego wasn't expecting it either.

So was I, I planned on dedicating an hour of my time to make sure I got one at
11, but it took me until 11:14 to buy and by then it was already 1/2 way to 3k.

I have to think that Lego isn't going to be assembling the sets by hand like
BrickLink did 2 years ago, but I could be wrong.

Author:

tons_of_bricks

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 22:08

Subject:

Re: Crowdfunding is over. 5 sets have been chosen

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

What a crazy day (actually less than 8 hours) and from what I have read there
are many unhappy people to say the least.

It appears that these are the finalists for crowdfunding:

1) Castle in the forest
2) Great fishing boat
3) Sheriff's Safe
4) Pursuit of flight
5) Kakapo

I am so glad Kakapo made it! It makes me now happy that the observatory got postponed,
because that most likely would've put Kakapo out of the 5.

So we got 41 days left and every set is just about sold out. I was not expecting
this.

Author:

tons_of_bricks

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 22:07

Subject:

Re: Designer Program - not Free Shipping

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I was not charged shipping, only tax.

Author:

randyf

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 21:26

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Re: Crowdfunding is over. 5 sets have been chosen

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

And they may all be sold out in the first 24 hours.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 21:07

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

I really am surprised that Castle in the Forest sold out as quickly as it did.
My guess is that Lego wasn't expecting it either.

I have to think that Lego isn't going to be assembling the sets by hand like
BrickLink did 2 years ago, but I could be wrong.

Author:

randyipp

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 20:46

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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Author:

MrPetovan

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 20:37

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I would argue there's a difference between a production set which run was
undersized compared to a crowdfunded set with an arbitrary quota even before
it started production. I don't mind the 3,000 minimum pre-orders to go into
production, but why the arbitrary limit of 5,000 sets even before it is produced?

Unlike with the Ulysses probe, there isn't any obvious physical constraint
to the limit since the set isn't available yet. On the other hand it's
easy to imagine short-sightedness or even greed or malice.

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, randyipp writes:

[…]
I get that you are upset, just like I was with the Ulyeses probe, the amount
of demand was underestimated for these sets too.

Seems to be a constant with TLG… but then, we conveniently forget that some sets
don’t sell as well as TLG thought they would and we get them on discount and
are happy.

So it’s a shame when we couldn’t get the set we wanted but a boon when we can
it on sales… and another shame when it’s still at the same price a year after
it’s out and we are waiting for a discount… and… and….

IOW: Why can’t TLG do things to exactly match MY needs?!

Author:

starbeanie

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 20:13

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Re: RE: Bricklink Designer Program

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Last time, it was Bricklink shipping them. This time, it's Lego.

Help, BrickfinderSG writes:

Hi,

I would like to know how come the region of Singapore is excluded from the Bricklink
Designer Program when in the previous round, we could ship over here.

This is very frustrating as sets that I would like to have funded are sold out
already.

Cheers,
Jun
Brickfinder

Author:

BrickfinderSG

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 19:47

Subject:

RE: Bricklink Designer Program

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Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 18:59

Subject:

Crowdfunding is over. 5 sets have been chosen

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Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 18:55

Subject:

Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

[…]
I get that you are upset, just like I was with the Ulyeses probe, the amount
of demand was underestimated for these sets too.

Author:

_djm

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 18:54

Subject:

Designer Program - not Free Shipping

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Author:

randyipp

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 18:40

Subject:

Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Hawmoon writes:

In LEGO, bethfromvt writes:

I totally agree. The website was all gummed up when it opened. I came back
2 hours later and the castles are gone. Pretty disappointing. Like you, I only
wanted ONE for ME and not to sell.

The Castle was gone after 10 minutes...
Mostly to scalpers...

It took about 40 minutes. There are not even 30 of the 5000 for presale on eBay
so how can you assume that it was mostly scalpers?

I get that you are upset, just like I was with the Ulyeses probe, the amount
of demand was underestimated for these sets too.

Author:

jethroo

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 17:15

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

The actual function to add the crowdfunding project to the cart is actually quite
simple:

https://www.lego.com/en-de/cart?product=910007

Though the whole integration will show you if there is still items left for you
region etc. But in the end its just a call to the lego online store cart with
the product ID attached.

Its a bit wierd though that you can actually search for a projects name and will
be presented with a "shop now CTA" which will redirect you back to the bricklink
page just to grap the project ID (and availability) from there.

So there can one get the project ID from? One can ask the javascript blapp running
in your browsers (wierd deep nesting oO)

blapp.models.models.models.map(function(e) {
e = 'Model: ' + e.strModelName + ' LegoProductId: ' + e.nLegoProductId;
return e;
});

Example Output can be seen here:
https://gist.github.com/jethroo/0f8b4218fb1cd9e8b618baf5f7494cb7

So in theory you can just call the Lego shop directly and hope for having the
project in stock still for you.

Author:

Laz75

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:40

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Like I said previously, Lego should have limited the orders to 1 per item for
the first week.

I think that two would be okay. And I strongly agree with the "first week" point.
Let people who really want it have a shot at them first, and then let other people
(or even the same) get more, to be fair to the designers.

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:28

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, psusaxman2000 writes:

[…]
Was there limits to certain regions? If I put in Canada for the Safe or Pursuit
of Flight, they are still available, but not for the US.

Isn’t that the generic “limit has been reached” message on TLG for limited editions?

That's what I thought, but when you switch to regions where it is sold out,
it tells you before you leave the BL site.

None-the-less it appears to have resolved itself....again for the time being.
Caulk it up to the the usual IT BS.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:05

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, psusaxman2000 writes:

[…]
Was there limits to certain regions? If I put in Canada for the Safe or Pursuit
of Flight, they are still available, but not for the US.

Isn’t that the generic “limit has been reached” message on TLG for limited editions?

Author:

Hawmoon

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:04

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, firestar246 writes:

I thought it was cool, but I didn't want to spend that much for one set at
this moment, so I went for a smaller one. I'm hoping that a real customer
and not a scalper got "my" copy. Perhaps a better course of action would've
been to buy five (since I was early enough), then offer to those who missed out
(and that I knew weren't scalpers) to sell it to them for the same price
if they paid for the shipping. Then at least I would know they would get good
homes.

Though part of the fault here is the rich and foolish people willing to buy from
these scalpers. If everyone refused to pay those outrageous prices, they'd
learn it wouldn't be worth it. But most likely that won't be the case
unfortunately.

Totally agree, I won't buy from scalpers.
Probably I'll "study" and once the instructions will be available, I'll
sort the building here, without the minifigures, for a cheaper price.

The point is: doesn't Lego want to get more money and make more customers
happy?

Author:

Hawmoon

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:02

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, pitz8008 writes:

Maybe this should be a hint to Lego to bring back the castle line. And the pirate
line too.

They should have enough hints now, considering how many 10k were castle related
in the last round.

Or the poll they did months ago

Author:

Hawmoon

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:01

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, bethfromvt writes:

I totally agree. The website was all gummed up when it opened. I came back
2 hours later and the castles are gone. Pretty disappointing. Like you, I only
wanted ONE for ME and not to sell.

The Castle was gone after 10 minutes...
Mostly to scalpers...

Author:

Hawmoon

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 16:00

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, alexwilcox writes:

No idea on questions to your answers, but I too only wanted one and it was the
only set I’m interested in.

Oh well. Another win for the scalpers I guess.

I've written to the Lego customer service as well.
I guess that the more will complaint about it, the best result can be achieved...

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 15:51

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, psusaxman2000 writes:

In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Looks like they are back to their broken ways again. Trying to pick up some
of the other sets that are still available and when I get redirected to Lego.com
it says nothing is in your bag. Even without the full on rush from this morning,
they still can't stay functional.

Was there limits to certain regions? If I put in Canada for the Safe or Pursuit
of Flight, they are still available, but not for the US.

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 15:39

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 15:27

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Re: Trying to understand...

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In New Sets, Biglesdug writes:

In New Sets, popsicle writes:

just can’t seem to get there.

Reading through this morning’s forum threads, I get the impression that it’s
mostly about the Castle-in-the-Forest set. Posts seem to run the gamut from elation
to frustration, mostly around the one set though. Why?

Is it the first of a series, more collectable and by extension more valuable
down the road, or something along those lines? Having taken a second look, I
don’t see anything extraordinary about the set’s design or parts? It’s nice,
but so are other sets in the line-up

I’ll monitor the forum over the next few days, I’m sure to get a better understanding

-Clueless

The castle and boat are/were the only ones I personally liked or would purchase.
The castle has that forestman nostalgia

and LEGO isn't and haven't made a castle in awhile.

I wasn't aware.

That's gotta play a role in it's desirability, too: fans starved for
the theme's classic look/feel?

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 15:15

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In New Sets, Brickitty writes:

1) The nostalgia value of the Forestmen sets, which are probably the most beloved
of all of the Castle subthemes.

2) Easily the set with the most interesting and varied minifigs of the Designer
sets.

3) No Castle line is currently out, and the Creator 3-in-1 castle is underwhelming.
This is a cleaner design than any official castle I've seen, along the lines
of the Ideas Blacksmith Shop but looking more like real life.

4) I disagree about the design -- I think it's gorgeous and unique, with
lots of details but without clashing colors or design elements (as opposed to
the 3-in-1, as the graphic designers and fashionistas I know agreed that the
design and color scheme were appalling at best).

5) The 360-degree design is very appealing, and there haven't been enough
Castle-style sets that don't rely on facades. Even Lowenstein needed the
unofficial expansion to be 360 degrees.

6) The set is inspired by 3 of the original Forestmen sets, and it feels kind
of iconic because of that.

7) Scalpers buying copies to resell after what happened with the prices for Lowenstein.

Thanks. Think I understand more fully now. Makes a lot more sense anyway

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 15:11

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In New Sets, tEoS writes:

It's a modern take on the classic Forestmen's River Fortress. It was
my favorite set as a child and I still have it on display:

Okay, I get it. It offers sentimental value to the many that had Classic Forestmen/Castle
at one time, understandable. Hard to put a price on such.

Happy for you that you were able to grab one, then

6077-2 (Inv) Forestmen's River Fortress
333 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Castle: Forestmen

In New Sets, popsicle writes:

I’ll monitor the forum over the next few days, I’m sure to get a better understanding

-Clueless

Author:

Biglesdug

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 15:07

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In New Sets, popsicle writes:

I’ll monitor the forum over the next few days, I’m sure to get a better understanding

-Clueless

The castle and boat are/were the only ones I personally liked or would purchase.
The castle has that forestman nostalgia and LEGO isn't and haven't made
a castle in awhile.

Author:

Brickitty

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:58

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Re: Trying to understand...

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Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:49

Subject:

Re: Trying to understand...

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It's a modern take on the classic Forestmen's River Fortress. It was
my favorite set as a child and I still have it on display:

6077-2 (Inv) Forestmen's River Fortress
333 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Castle: Forestmen

In New Sets, popsicle writes:

I’ll monitor the forum over the next few days, I’m sure to get a better understanding

-Clueless

Author:

chuckondrums

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:38

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, tEoS writes:

Go to the Studio tab and click on designer program to preorder sets on Lego S@H.

Wow good thing the crowd funding is a month long in case they didn't sell
out in less than 12 hours. Only 5000 sets per Idea? I get they don't want
to pack 50k of everything, but come ON!

Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:28

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Awesome. One of the best parts of my day.

There we go: http://v4ei.com/comics/index.php?id=launch&check=s2106

Author:

WhiteVanMan

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:25

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, firestar246 writes:

The castle went out of stock within 40 min.

Here's to hoping the Kakapo makes it! Also, am I missing something about
that safe? I was not expecting that one to be that popular.

The Kakapo is the only one I went for, and I shall really enjoy making that if
it gets made.

The others didn't do anything for me, but I'll be getting the ruined
house when that comes round...

Paul

Author:

tons_of_bricks

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:22

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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Author:

Classicsmiley

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:14

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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Topic:

In LEGO, Classicsmiley writes:

In LEGO, randyipp writes:

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, randyf writes:

[…]
Yep.

Once again, it shows that LEGO does not know how to manage their IT infrastructure
to handle roll-outs of in demand items. Will they ever learn?

“There were so many buyers, the site went down! It’s the ultimate proof of a
great success!”

Brb, need to check for new comic...

I know, I've been refreshing his site today, hoping for a new one.

There we go: http://v4ei.com/comics/index.php?id=launch&check=s2106

Author:

Emperor_Penguin

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:13

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noooo I really wanted the fishing boat

there's no way I'm paying double/triple now for it.

Guess I'll wait for the part list and buy the pieces for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:01

Subject:

Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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There was a limit of 5, which seems ridiculous, especially considering that I
can only buy 2 #76178 Daily Bugles (not limited edition).

In LEGO, StarBrick writes:

I don't get it why the just didn't do what they do on the 'own'
Lego.com site: limited amounts to buy per buyer!

Man, horrible for customers, bleeding customer satisfaction here down the drain

Author:

Stellar

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 14:00

Subject:

Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Hawmoon writes:

I want to see if all the ones who bought it will get it, as for now 5510 castles
have been sold and 5134 ships...

Author:

StarBrick

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 13:58

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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I don't get it why the just didn't do what they do on the 'own'
Lego.com site: limited amounts to buy per buyer!

Man, horrible for customers, bleeding customer satisfaction here down the drain

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pitz8008

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Jul 1, 2021 13:58

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Hawmoon writes:

Maybe this should be a hint to Lego to bring back the castle line. And the pirate
line too.

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tEoS

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Jul 1, 2021 13:55

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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I wanted 2 of the castle, but only bought 1 knowing that many would be left out
of this opportunity, due to Lego's foolishness (allowing 5).

Like I said previously, Lego should have limited the orders to 1 per item for
the first week.

In LEGO, thelegoman writes:

This just goes to show that taking into account that only 1000 AFOL's needed
to buy 5 sets to turn around and screw anyone hoping to get their hands on a
set. Lego should have pulled their heads out of their collective asses on this
one !!! Poor management as usual from Lego. They should have left it open ended
or restricted number of sets to 1 per order. I'm so P.O. right now I can't
even stand it.

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bethfromvt

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Jul 1, 2021 13:51

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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I totally agree. The website was all gummed up when it opened. I came back
2 hours later and the castles are gone. Pretty disappointing. Like you, I only
wanted ONE for ME and not to sell.

In LEGO, Hawmoon writes:

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alexwilcox

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Jul 1, 2021 13:51

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Re: Castle In The Forest

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In LEGO, Hawmoon writes:

No idea on questions to your answers, but I too only wanted one and it was the
only set I’m interested in.

Oh well. Another win for the scalpers I guess.

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KrazyGhost

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Jul 1, 2021 13:41

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, Tracyd writes:

In LEGO, thelegoman writes:

Another fail, the ones that will be popular should have had a higher threshold
and the niche ones should have a lower threshold.

Yea the way lego has been with scalpers I'm not surprised they went after
a limited number special edition set. Sucks is I stopped collecting funko cause
of this and they followed me back to lego.

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Hawmoon

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Jul 1, 2021 13:37

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Castle In The Forest

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Tracyd

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Jul 1, 2021 13:24

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, thelegoman writes:

Another fail, the ones that will be popular should have had a higher threshold
and the niche ones should have a lower threshold.

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LegoLDK

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Jul 1, 2021 13:24

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, LegoLDK writes:

Something's not working for me. I click the link get redirected to the Lego.com
site and it keeps saying I have nothing in my bag and do I want to start shopping.
Oh well, no safe for me.

There's a huge lag on the website updating. Now says the safe is sold out
in my region. Guess it was already the whole time I tried to order.

Hey ho. Expecting a robust technological solution from Lego based on "fair" purchase
limits was folly to begin with.

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thelegoman

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Jul 1, 2021 13:19

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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Author:

SylvainLS

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Jul 1, 2021 13:16

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Re: Designer Program - region limited? -1

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In Announce, firestar246 writes:

[…]
The ship is saying sold out for me too even though the bar shows that not all
5,000 have been purchased. So either the bar is wrong or something.

Says sold out now. There might be a slight delay.

Author:

Classicsmiley

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Jul 1, 2021 13:15

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, randyipp writes:

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:

In LEGO, randyf writes:

[…]
Yep.

Once again, it shows that LEGO does not know how to manage their IT infrastructure
to handle roll-outs of in demand items. Will they ever learn?

“There were so many buyers, the site went down! It’s the ultimate proof of a
great success!”

Brb, need to check for new comic...

I know, I've been refreshing his site today, hoping for a new one.

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LegoLDK

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Jul 1, 2021 13:06

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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In LEGO, Brickitty writes:

In LEGO, firestar246 writes:

The castle went out of stock within 40 min.

Here's to hoping the Kakapo makes it! Also, am I missing something about
that safe? I was not expecting that one to be that popular.

Neither was I! But then my partner showed me that you can set your own working
combination for it, and I understood why people like it. What's most surprising
to me is that the Bionicle set probably won't be made.

Something's not working for me. I click the link get redirected to the Lego.com
site and it keeps saying I have nothing in my bag and do I want to start shopping.
Oh well, no safe for me.

Author:

tons_of_bricks

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Jul 1, 2021 13:03

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Re: Designer Program - region limited? -1

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In Announce, StarBrick writes:

Why are sets limited in volume per region?

Europeans can not pre-order sets like the shipping vessel that is amazing!

Is this the new way Lego provides sets to all?

I hope the digital instructions will be downloadable in 2022

The ship is saying sold out for me too even though the bar shows that not all
5,000 have been purchased. So either the bar is wrong or something.

Author:

SylvainLS

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Jul 1, 2021 12:57

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Re: FYI: Crowdfunding is live

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