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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:

In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:

In Catalog, cosmicray writes:

This (at least this instance) refers to the inventory for set 41453-1.

I see an extra item for p/n 85861 in white, with no corresponding base part entry.

Is this in reality an optional part, or is this an additional part for something
that is in a sub-inventory (e.g. a minifig) ?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Nita Rae

It's used in

Minifig No: uni07 Name: Unikitty - Large Smile

uni07 (Inv) Unikitty - Large Smile
Minifigures: Unikitty!

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=uni07

Thank you. That reveals another shortcoming in the BL implementation. That being
that, while you may be able to see that on the HTML web page display (assuming
you can click something that expands the sub-inventories), there is no option
to do likewise on the XML download of the set inventory. All I get in the XML
file is a flat rendering of the basic set inventory. It doesn’t reveal that this
part was an extra assigned to the minifig (which we can’t do in the inventory
section of the catalog, because that might imply that every sale of the minifig
comes with the extra).

In one sense it would be nice (I suspect) if extras were matched to the
item they are extra to, just like alternates are (but at the same time not trying
to say they are an alternate because they are not).

Extras _are_ matched to the item they are extra to. They are extra parts to the
set. That is how TLC defines them. They are not extra parts to a minifigure.
A minifigure is an assembly defined by BrickLink, and it should have no bearing
on the set that contains it. Basically, it is just another counterpart like all
other assemblies that are defined in the Counterparts section. Unfortunately,
the BrickLink system treats the minifigure assemblies as special items and all
of that needs to be changed. But the Sun may have gone supernova before that
ever happens.

Cheers,
Randy

Author:

cosmicray

Posted:

Jun 2, 2023 08:42

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Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry

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In Catalog, Ber_i writes:

Set view to "break minifigure", and all the parts of the figs are shown
as set-inventory

Which is fine (as I suggested) but does not propagate to the XML inventory download.

Nita Rae

Author:

Ber_i

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Jun 2, 2023 08:41

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Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry

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Set view to "break minifigure", and all the parts of the figs are shown
as set-inventory

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cosmicray

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Jun 2, 2023 08:00

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Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry

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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:

In Catalog, cosmicray writes:

It's used in

uni07 (Inv) Unikitty - Large Smile
Minifigures: Unikitty!

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=uni07

Author:

BricksThatStick

Posted:

Jun 2, 2023 07:37

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Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry

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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:

It's used in

uni07 (Inv) Unikitty - Large Smile
Minifigures: Unikitty!

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=uni07

Author:

cosmicray

Posted:

Jun 2, 2023 07:25

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Extra part in inventory without base entry

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Author:

cosmicray

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Jun 2, 2023 07:21

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Re: P/N 30179 with yellow door tr-lt-blue glass

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In Catalog, ghyde writes:

In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

In Catalog, ghyde writes:

[…]
It's in the inventory for this set.

Hope that explains things.

The subject is the counterpart / combo for {30179 + x39c01}. There’s several
30179cxx, but not with x39c01 in Yellow.

There likely never will be, either, unless TLG decide to do a rerelease of 6434-1
which I highly doubt would ever happen as it's from a bygone era.

The yellow door at the time of it's original release happened to fit the
color scheme of the era the sets were going through, nowadays, it's all color
coordinated and we know a lot more about the parts numbering scheme TLG uses
internally.

If there ever is a need for that particular yellow door in a set design, perhaps
they would reuse it, although given their color palette now, I'd expect it
would turn up in some shade of yellow.

Cheers ...

ghyde

I guess this open up (again) the eternal question … Is it better (or more correct)
to list the two individually and linked together as a superlot, or to create
a unique catalog entry for the combo. It is existential in one sense. I’m curious
if there are ground floor reasons that suggest one over the other (and this same
subject somewhat also applies to wheels and tyres).

Nita Rae

Author:

ghyde

Posted:

Jun 1, 2023 14:32

Subject:

Re: P/N 30179 with yellow door tr-lt-blue glass

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

In Catalog, ghyde writes:

[…]
It's in the inventory for this set.

Hope that explains things.

The subject is the counterpart / combo for {30179 + x39c01}. There’s several
30179cxx, but not with x39c01 in Yellow.

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 31, 2023 21:07

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

I've tried a couple of times to set myself to this task but there are so
many gray images and (seriously, I am not making this up...) I dislike the old
grays.

Wait... What?!? 😵

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

May 31, 2023 20:44

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, macebobo writes:

In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

I dislike the old grays.

But, but, it is in your store name!

Then I guess this is why she's selling them?

Author:

macebobo

Posted:

May 31, 2023 20:20

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

I dislike the old grays.

But, but, it is in your store name!

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

May 31, 2023 19:33

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:

I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not. These are
the images in the colors that djklitz mentioned that used to be the catalog
images. They were clear renders, and the colors were spot on. These 3 images
were replaced by the current ones that cause problems.

David

Ouch! Yes, at some point the BL office dumped all our line-drawn images for part
renders. They decided to trade people complaining that our images were too small
for people complaining about the color of our images. What can we do?

We are still free to correct and upload images. The community still can improve
our catalog.

The old grays are a problem for sure. Those of us who spend time recoloring renders
(of which randyf is our fearless leader) tend to focus on getting new parts and
colors done and less on the vintage stuff.

I've tried a couple of times to set myself to this task but there are so
many gray images and (seriously, I am not making this up...) I dislike the old
grays.

Take care,
~Jen

Author:

crazylegoman

Posted:

May 31, 2023 17:22

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, randyf writes:

In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:

In Catalog, randyf writes:

Anyone out there is more than welcome to submit improved images. It is a community-built
database, so the community can fix things that they see need fixing.

Improved images may be uploaded here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. One suggestion I would give you is to sort your lists by _color_ instead
of by part name. That way, all dark gray parts get lumped together and all light
gray parts get lumped together. It helps tremendously with the inventorying process.

I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not.

And why is that, pray tell? I am in the position to handle these things, so I
believe I know what I am talking about.

Because I wish that superior images replaced inferior images, and never the reverse.

These are
the images in the colors that djklitz mentioned that used to be the catalog
images. They were clear renders, and the colors were spot on. These 3 images
were replaced by the current ones that cause problems.

I believe that replacing all the old images was a bad decision. I'm not
saying you specifically did it. I honestly don't know what individual or
group was responsible, but I do know that it has led to the trouble that this
thread's initiator experienced.

However,
users _are_ free to adjust the colors of the renders and upload them if they
think they are better. I have personally done this on over 9000 images in the
catalog.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&imgID=169230&v=2

How many have you done?

Randy

What a pompous question. You know exactly how to look up all of the catalog
images that I have contributed. I appreciate your many contributions to the
catalog, but I don't think that their vast number is a valid excuse to be
condescending to anyone.

David

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 31, 2023 16:29

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:

In Catalog, randyf writes:

In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:

I've noticed a lot of light gray pieces appear dark gray in color as well
as dark gray pieces appearing light gray. I've been making several mistakes
inventorying sets because I am glancing at the photo and may forget to fully
read the description. When doing so many sets at once it can be easy to overlook
occasionally.

Attached is two examples.
One of set 5958 - Mummy's Tomb when sorting by Item Name. The dark gray slope
looks very light gray.
Also in 5988, two of the light gray parts could easily be mistaken as dark gray.

However, there are many cases of other parts specifically with dark vs light
gray.

It would be awesome to adjust these as I am sure I am not the only one who's
made this mistake. Could we fix these default images to be more representative
of their actual color?

Thanks!

I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not.

And why is that, pray tell? I am in the position to handle these things, so I
believe I know what I am talking about.

They were replaced because _all_ of the old 80 x 60 pixel thumbnail images were
replaced with larger images. At that time, the LEGO renders were chosen as the
default. Not my decision or that of any of the other volunteer admins. However,
users _are_ free to adjust the colors of the renders and upload them if they
think they are better. I have personally done this on over 9000 images in the
catalog.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&imgID=169230&v=2

How many have you done?

Randy

Author:

Stuart9

Posted:

May 31, 2023 16:17

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Re: Lightsaber minifigures

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Thanks, both figures now working fine and correct parts.

In Catalog, LEGOfan1138 writes:

In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:

Is it possible to replace battery in lightsaber minifigures without damaging
them ?

Does the hood normally come off as the rest of the figure appears fixed, what
colour should it be ?

I have an sw0137 that fails to light

Minifig No: sw0137 Name: Obi-Wan Kenobi - Trans-Light Blue Light-Up Lightsaber

sw0137 Obi-Wan Kenobi - Trans-Light Blue Light-Up Lightsaber
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3

Take the non saber arm off then pry the back off through the arm-hole with a
small screwdriver. Any head accessory should come off. In this case it’s a reddish
brown hood.

Author:

LEGOfan1138

Posted:

May 31, 2023 15:56

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Re: Lightsaber minifigures

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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:

sw0137 Obi-Wan Kenobi - Trans-Light Blue Light-Up Lightsaber
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3

Take the non saber arm off then pry the back off through the arm-hole with a
small screwdriver. Any head accessory should come off. In this case it’s a reddish
brown hood.

Author:

crazylegoman

Posted:

May 31, 2023 15:18

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog, randyf writes:

In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:

Author:

djklitz

Posted:

May 31, 2023 14:34

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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Oh awesome thank you I did not realize there was a self-submittal process or
I would have started there. I was directed to come here from bricklink support.

And yes - sorting by color helps avoid this mistake. Unfortunately my parts are
sorted by type so when I am doing plates - I get all the plates of all the colors
I need etc. Then I have everything organized alphabetically as bricklink displays
them so I can, usually, get things done more quickly.

In Catalog, randyf writes:

In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 31, 2023 14:29

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Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:

Author:

djklitz

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May 31, 2023 14:22

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Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos

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Open

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

May 31, 2023 13:07

Subject:

Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator!

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Yep, we have no less than 85 new sets that will be released tomorrow.

Sounds like lots of fun!

Author:

EnchantedBricks

Posted:

May 31, 2023 11:05

Subject:

Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator!

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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

Hello everyone,

As of today, we have promoted BrickLink member Turez (Jonas) from Catalog Associate
to Catalog Administrator. In practical terms, this means he will now have full
privileges on both sides of the catalog, governing both the entries themselves
and the inventory system which connects them:

https://www.bricklink.com/v3/member/community_experts.page

Jonas has done excellent work during this past year in his catalog-side-only
position, quickly masterning all the various functions in what has often been
called a "minefield" environment.

Of particular interest to him is the process of getting all the set entries added
to the database at the correct time (and with the correct details of course),
which involves staging them as pending items and doing research as to when each
set will be released:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?itemPend=Y&catType=S

The scheduled release date is usually added to the item name on a pending entry.
As you can see, we are on the verge of a huge upload of new sets. June 1 is typcially
the single busiest release date besides January 1.

We are very pleased to have such great talent on our team. So join me in welcoming
Jonas to this new position!

Congrats!!

Author:

Turez

Posted:

May 31, 2023 10:07

Subject:

Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator!

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Thanks everyone!

In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

As you can see, we are on the verge of a huge upload of new sets. June 1 is typcially
the single busiest release date besides January 1.

Yep, we have no less than 85 new sets that will be released tomorrow.

Author:

BricksThatStick

Posted:

May 31, 2023 08:10

Subject:

Re: Why no easy link from store to catalogue ?

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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

In Catalog, daxio writes:

As far as I can see the only way to look up the catalogue entry for a store product
is to click the image then the catalogue reference - it is not at all obvious,
I even forget from time to time.

https://store.bricklink.com/daxio?p=daxio&itemID=351965136#/shop

Because we don't want buyers to leave the store where they are shopping.

~Jen

Exactly.

IIRC that option to click the image to get the number to click on didnt used
to be there so it's better than nothing at all

Author:

jennnifer

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May 31, 2023 07:46

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Re: Why no easy link from store to catalogue ?

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