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I recently purchased a group of older Lego sets including some castle sets.
It was someone's childhood collection. The sets were mostly complete, some
missing a few small parts. Boxes and instructions in good shape. Sold a set
and the buyer thought two 8x16 base plates looked like they were cut from a 16x16
plate. Sent a partial refund but not fully convinced this was the case as when
I inventoried the set nothing jumped out at me as being wrong. I guess the question
is were the older base plates cut/manufactured differently than newer ones?

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Grego

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Jun 17, 2021 01:44

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In General, Hurt writes:

In General, peregrinator writes:

In General, gwurst writes:

In your situation I might ask for a partial refund and then list them as used
but like-new and only stacked once.

BL policy discourages listing items as "like new":
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

"Please do not use phrases such as "Like New" or "As New" in the description
of any item, regardless of whether it is being listed as NEW or USED."

I wonder why? It's clear for NEW items to not do this, but for USED ones?

Goes back to eBay listing rules ...it's called keyword SPAMMing

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Daragh

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Jun 16, 2021 19:53

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Unfortunately they are "used" in my mind.

At least they stagger-stacked them. I had a similar issue some time ago and over
1000 1x2, 1x3 and 2x2 plates were stacked. Boy did I have sore fingers after
separating them all.

I resold them as used after a partial refund from seller, but I understand that
might not suit you, so I would look to return the whole order.

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bricknationtoys

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Jun 16, 2021 17:28

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Of course the buyer wouldn't know but it isn't about if you can tell
the difference or not. You also wouldn't know if someone built a set first,
carefully took it apart and sold the parts as new.

In my dictionary Lego parts that were joined together count as used. Wheater
you build a stack for shipping or a tiny skyscraper. The moment you join two
new parts together you have two used parts. Hopefully the photo illustrates it
well.

Author:

Fr0stByt3

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Jun 16, 2021 16:11

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I'm not picky about parts unless they're scuffed, cracked, or obviously
worn. Personally as a buyer I wouldn't mind it too much since I was used
to clicking parts together at the Pick-A-Brick wall in the local LEGO store anyway
to get more for my money. I'd rather clicked bricks than loose scuffed ones
but some buyers aren't like me and so OP's concerns are noted.

But this brings up a good point. How many sellers here would buy parts from the
Pick-a-Brick, click them together, then sell them new on Bricklink with or without
taking them apart before shipping them out? Would the buyer even know in most
instances?

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tons_of_bricks

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Jun 16, 2021 13:31

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

it isn't a new seller. Over 300 orders in that store. 100% feedback. A partial
refund doesn't really fix the issue for me.

Does the store allow returns? I'd request then to return the whole order.

On one hand I feel slightly bad for the seller to be in this position, especially
for such a high value order. On the other hand, they should know better than
to do this.

I would show them this thread so they know it's not you just being overly
picky but that most people don't find this acceptable.

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bricknationtoys

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Jun 16, 2021 13:27

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Your probably right that the parts were stored that way. It's a 4000 parts
order so very unlikely that the seller sat down and put it all together just
for shipping.

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bricknationtoys

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Jun 16, 2021 13:19

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it isn't a new seller. Over 300 orders in that store. 100% feedback. A partial
refund doesn't really fix the issue for me.

Author:

leggodtshop

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Jun 16, 2021 11:54

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In General, SylvainLS writes:

In General, Bond writes:

In General, patpendlego writes:

In General, Bond writes:

In General, patpendlego writes:

New can come from TLG or an official by TLG licensed reseller only.
Any other source is Used. Regardless of stacked or not.

Of course BL's definition is a bit less strict.

A fair argument. That being stated, BL *is* TLG, now that the latter owns and
defines policy for the former. Not to put too fine a point on it, of course.

- Pat (not pending)

Lol. However, BL is not the seller here. Not yet at least

Ah, I see now. I had misconstrued your use of the word 'source'.

Well, BL sold and will sell (or is that TLG now?) Designer Program sets….

The way things go BL/TLG will become the sole seller here and we merely suppliers...

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SylvainLS

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Jun 16, 2021 11:11

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