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 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: May 8, 2021 16:13
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ghyde (203)

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I have questions regarding how this would affect an Australian seller selling
to a UK buyer:

How does the VAT system apply to Australia?
Is it required for Australian sellers to opt-in to this system?
Does the UK still apply VAT for goods received which do not have a VAT paid declaration?
Is this sent to the seller or the receiver?
Is this VAT added on top of Australia's 10% GST? Does BrickLink also charge
for and collect my GST on my behalf to buyers I'm selling to? Do buyers also
get VAT charged for GST charges?
Does this charging of VAT and or GST apply to orders sent out of Australia to
foreign buyers?

I forget some of these requirements, it's been a while since I sold anything
so I would like enlightenment on that which applies to my situation. This whole
taxation system is more confusing the more I look at it!

Cheers ...

Geoffrey Hyde

In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.
Below is an overview of what this will entail.

Changes at a glance:

* The UK will be excluded from the EU country list and will have its own VAT
regime (like Norway). UK buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from EU sellers
and EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from UK sellers. UK buyers will see
VAT inclusive prices from UK sellers only.

* BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

* UK VAT will be added during the checkout process or at the receipt of the final
invoice and will not be included in the item price.

* Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to a UK delivery
address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.


What this means for you:

* For each qualified transaction, BrickLink will provide a separate VAT invoice
that can be used as proof to customs that VAT has been sufficiently collected.

* In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.

* If you are a non-UK seller and you want to sell goods to UK buyers, you should
opt in to at least one of BrickLink’s onsite payment methods.


An email with this same communication will be sent out later today. For additional
information, please refer to our new Brexit Marketplace Changes Help Page:


https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514


Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 8, 2021 14:07
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In Administrative, chris38911 writes:
  UK Bricklink sellers who turn over less than £85,000 per annum do not have to
register for VAT, nor do they have any obligation to charge VAT on their goods.
So why is Bricklink now going to add VAT to these sellers prices?

It isn't charging VAT for UK-UK sales when the seller isn't VAT registered.
 Author: chris38911 View Messages Posted By chris38911
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UK Bricklink sellers who turn over less than £85,000 per annum do not have to
register for VAT, nor do they have any obligation to charge VAT on their goods.
So why is Bricklink now going to add VAT to these sellers prices?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Administrative, cosmicray writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, cosmicray writes:
  […]
  And the rare UK buyers that are also UK VAT-registered businesses can deduct
the import VAT from their collected VAT.

How can they do that, if BL is collecting/remitting all their VAT ?

Nita Rae

The buyer doesn’t care whether it’s the seller who directly collected the VAT
or if it’s the marketplace, all they need to know and prove is that they did
pay VAT (and to whom), and that will be on the invoice.

At the end of the month (or trimester), they declare the deductible VAT (what
they paid) and the collected VAT (from their sales) and the difference.  At the
end of the month (or year), if the difference collected minus deductible
is positive, they pay, if not, they can reclaim it or keep it for next month
(or year).

Please slow down on your rate of posting, and read carefully what I wrote.

The buyer (in this transaction) will have a tough time offsetting the VAT, if
they (the buyer, but when they become the reseller) collect no VAT, because their
sales on BL has the VAT being managed by BL (and not by the reseller). This of
course doesn't apply if they are buying on BL to sell elsewhere, unless the
marketplace they are selling on also does manages the VAT for them.

No. BL (or any other marketplace) will only manage the import VAT, not all the
seller’s VAT.

The (current) simple VAT mechanism on BL is only there to follow the “prices
should include local VAT for local buyers and should exclude it for foreigners”
rule and pre-calculate the VAT field, it doesn’t “manage VAT” in the sense that
the seller is the one who’s responsible to collect and remit the local VAT.


  Yes, I understand about them claiming the VAT they paid, but the issue here is
where does the VAT they (theoretically) collect in order to offset it ?

Nita Rae

We are talking about a business VAT registered in UK, so:

There’s three cases when they buy, however they buy:
1. From a VAT registered UK seller: they pay UK VAT.
2. From a non-VAT registered UK seller: VAT does not apply.
3. From a non-UK seller: they pay UK import VAT.

Only in case 3, and under £135, does BL/the marketplace collect the UK VAT.

In both cases where they pay VAT (1 and 3), they have an invoice that shows they
paid some VAT and can then write it down in their “deductible VAT” account.

Then, when they sell, there’s two cases:
1. They sell to a UK buyer: they charge, collect, and remit VAT.
2. They sell to a non-UK buyer: they export at 0% VAT.

In case 1., they write the collected VAT in their “collected VAT” account.

Then, when it’s time to declare & pay, all that is deductible is deducted from
what was collected and the difference is remitted or claimable.

Also, if, in case 2., they export to a country with marketplace laws, like the
US or, soon, the EU, then BL, or any other marketplace, will collect US Sales
tax or some EU VAT… but that has nothing to do with their VAT registration in
the UK: they just export at 0% VAT and don’t care about what happens to the buyer
and the buyer’s local taxes. What the new mechanism is is a simplification of
their exports: they don’t have to register for VAT or Sales tax collection in
these countries (and states and counties and towns…).

I hope that’s clearer.
 Author: jbricks View Messages Posted By jbricks
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In Administrative, cosmicray writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, cosmicray writes:
  […]
  And the rare UK buyers that are also UK VAT-registered businesses can deduct
the import VAT from their collected VAT.

How can they do that, if BL is collecting/remitting all their VAT ?

Nita Rae

The buyer doesn’t care whether it’s the seller who directly collected the VAT
or if it’s the marketplace, all they need to know and prove is that they did
pay VAT (and to whom), and that will be on the invoice.

At the end of the month (or trimester), they declare the deductible VAT (what
they paid) and the collected VAT (from their sales) and the difference.  At the
end of the month (or year), if the difference collected minus deductible
is positive, they pay, if not, they can reclaim it or keep it for next month
(or year).

Please slow down on your rate of posting, and read carefully what I wrote.

The buyer (in this transaction) will have a tough time offsetting the VAT, if
they (the buyer, but when they become the reseller) collect no VAT, because their
sales on BL has the VAT being managed by BL (and not by the reseller). This of
course doesn't apply if they are buying on BL to sell elsewhere, unless the
marketplace they are selling on also does manages the VAT for them.

Yes, I understand about them claiming the VAT they paid, but the issue here is
where does the VAT they (theoretically) collect in order to offset it ?

I don't now how this works in the US, but in most (if not all) European countries
you also get back the VAT if its negative, you don't need to collect vat
to claim vat.

If i would stop selling within the EU, then i would only get VAT back and not
pay any.


  
Nita Rae
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: May 7, 2021 16:35
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, cosmicray writes:
  […]
  And the rare UK buyers that are also UK VAT-registered businesses can deduct
the import VAT from their collected VAT.

How can they do that, if BL is collecting/remitting all their VAT ?

Nita Rae

The buyer doesn’t care whether it’s the seller who directly collected the VAT
or if it’s the marketplace, all they need to know and prove is that they did
pay VAT (and to whom), and that will be on the invoice.

At the end of the month (or trimester), they declare the deductible VAT (what
they paid) and the collected VAT (from their sales) and the difference.  At the
end of the month (or year), if the difference collected minus deductible
is positive, they pay, if not, they can reclaim it or keep it for next month
(or year).

Please slow down on your rate of posting, and read carefully what I wrote.

The buyer (in this transaction) will have a tough time offsetting the VAT, if
they (the buyer, but when they become the reseller) collect no VAT, because their
sales on BL has the VAT being managed by BL (and not by the reseller). This of
course doesn't apply if they are buying on BL to sell elsewhere, unless the
marketplace they are selling on also does manages the VAT for them.

Yes, I understand about them claiming the VAT they paid, but the issue here is
where does the VAT they (theoretically) collect in order to offset it ?

Nita Rae
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 7, 2021 15:43
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  
  
Indeed.  I was looking at it as “which foreigner is better?”


There is no answer to that!

Oops, just add “ sell” after “gn”
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Indeed.  I was looking at it as “which foreigner is better?”


There is no answer to that!
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: May 7, 2021 14:49
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.

UPDATE May 7, 14:49 EDT (BrickLink Time)

Due to some precautions we have decided to take, implementation of the Brexit
system changes will be delayed by one week. Our new deployment target is Tuesday,
May 18.

To make this change, we will move the regularly scheduled monthly maintenance
back 12 hours. The site will be down from 1:00 PM to 2:30 PM EDT. We will run
a warning notice several days before, and post a reminder or two in the Forum.

Thanks for your patience.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  […]
  That’s the same situation for US buyers: Sales tax will be added at checkout
to all three and it’s not shown when they shop and (UK or EU or Norway¹) VAT
registered sellers will be the best deal.

(¹ As it appears there’s a VAT system on BL for Norway.)

It is slightly different as if a UK buyer buys from a UK seller, there is no
extra VAT to pay but there is VAT on purchases from abroad. So when sorting by
price, any foreign stores need the VAT to be added whereas UK stores already
have it added (or it is not chargeable).

Indeed.  I was looking at it as “which foreigner is better?”

But also, EU (and Norway and New Zeand and…) will be the same soon… or are already
worse as import VAT is not shown at checkout and is a nice surprise, kindly wrapped
with a gentle fee by the postal services
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  […]
Of course it is confused further by seller status too.

EU VAT registered sellers' stores will show prices ex-VAT, so their regular
national / EU prices minus VAT.

EU VAT unregistered sellers' stores will show their regular prices, as they
don't charge VAT nationally.

US stores will also show their regular national prices, as they don't charge
VAT.

And our VAT gets added to all three.

So EU VAT registered sellers will be the best deal for UK buyers, if they have
roughly average prices after their VAT is added on. Luckily we will be shown
ex-VAT prices where appropriate, so we know to add on 20% to any foreign store.
It is a shame we cannot tick a box and add our VAT on as appropriate in searches,
so we can compare / sort UK and non-UK prices together.

That’s the same situation for US buyers: Sales tax will be added at checkout
to all three and it’s not shown when they shop and (UK or EU or Norway¹) VAT
registered sellers will be the best deal.

(¹ As it appears there’s a VAT system on BL for Norway.)

It is slightly different as if a UK buyer buys from a UK seller, there is no
extra VAT to pay but there is VAT on purchases from abroad. So when sorting by
price, any foreign stores need the VAT to be added whereas UK stores already
have it added (or it is not chargeable).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  […]
Of course it is confused further by seller status too.

EU VAT registered sellers' stores will show prices ex-VAT, so their regular
national / EU prices minus VAT.

EU VAT unregistered sellers' stores will show their regular prices, as they
don't charge VAT nationally.

US stores will also show their regular national prices, as they don't charge
VAT.

And our VAT gets added to all three.

So EU VAT registered sellers will be the best deal for UK buyers, if they have
roughly average prices after their VAT is added on. Luckily we will be shown
ex-VAT prices where appropriate, so we know to add on 20% to any foreign store.
It is a shame we cannot tick a box and add our VAT on as appropriate in searches,
so we can compare / sort UK and non-UK prices together.

That’s the same situation for US buyers: Sales tax will be added at checkout
to all three and it’s not shown when they shop and (UK or EU or Norway¹) VAT
registered sellers will be the best deal.

(¹ As it appears there’s a VAT system on BL for Norway.)
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In Administrative, cosmicray writes:
  […]
  And the rare UK buyers that are also UK VAT-registered businesses can deduct
the import VAT from their collected VAT.

How can they do that, if BL is collecting/remitting all their VAT ?

Nita Rae

The buyer doesn’t care whether it’s the seller who directly collected the VAT
or if it’s the marketplace, all they need to know and prove is that they did
pay VAT (and to whom), and that will be on the invoice.

At the end of the month (or trimester), they declare the deductible VAT (what
they paid) and the collected VAT (from their sales) and the difference.  At the
end of the month (or year), if the difference collected minus deductible
is positive, they pay, if not, they can reclaim it or keep it for next month
(or year).
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Bad_Girl writes:
  […]
  What about orders sold to business not to consumers? The VAT shouldn't be
charged for those.

Why should there be a difference between BTB and BTC? If you are importing something
from outside of the EU, you pay surely also VAT (at customs or at the post office).

I think you still have intra-community deliveries in mind. UK is not part of
the EU.

And the rare UK buyers that are also UK VAT-registered businesses can deduct
the import VAT from their collected VAT.

How can they do that, if BL is collecting/remitting all their VAT ?

Nita Rae
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, jenwick writes:
  Will VAT be added to US seller's invoices as too? It is my understanding
that we need to charge this as well.

Thanks

Yes, it’s an obligation for any importation into UK, so for every transaction
where the seller is not in UK.

You can look at the table on https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514 ,
the last row “All other country.”

The other rows are where “it’s complicated” because of North Ireland (There Shan’t
Be A Border Between Eire and North Ireland).

There’s also nice diagrams below.

Of course it is confused further by seller status too.

EU VAT registered sellers' stores will show prices ex-VAT, so their regular
national / EU prices minus VAT.

EU VAT unregistered sellers' stores will show their regular prices, as they
don't charge VAT nationally.

US stores will also show their regular national prices, as they don't charge
VAT.

And our VAT gets added to all three.

So EU VAT registered sellers will be the best deal for UK buyers, if they have
roughly average prices after their VAT is added on. Luckily we will be shown
ex-VAT prices where appropriate, so we know to add on 20% to any foreign store.
It is a shame we cannot tick a box and add our VAT on as appropriate in searches,
so we can compare / sort UK and non-UK prices together.
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In Administrative, jenwick writes:
  Will VAT be added to US seller's invoices as too? It is my understanding
that we need to charge this as well.

Thanks

Yes, it’s an obligation for any importation into UK, so for every transaction
where the seller is not in UK.

You can look at the table on https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514 ,
the last row “All other country.”

The other rows are where “it’s complicated” because of North Ireland (There Shan’t
Be A Border Between Eire and North Ireland).

There’s also nice diagrams below.
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Will VAT be added to US seller's invoices as too? It is my understanding
that we need to charge this as well.

Thanks
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In Administrative, Stellar writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  * BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

What about orders sold to business not to consumers? The VAT shouldn't be
charged for those.

  An email with this same communication will be sent out later today. For additional
information, please refer to our new Brexit Marketplace Changes Help Page:


https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514

That's explained at the additional information link above: "If the buyer
is a UK VAT-registered business and provides their valid UK VAT registration
number, the responsibility to account for VAT will switch to the UK VAT-registered
business customer."

That page also has some other additional information, for example about the special
status of Northern Ireland.
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  * For each qualified transaction, BrickLink will provide a separate VAT invoice
that can be used as proof to customs that VAT has been sufficiently collected.

This is good news. Presumably this means that the VAT invoice should be printed
and included in the package, so there is proof of VAT payment if opened and inspected.
Is there any guidance for sellers to indicate on the package that VAT has been
paid? I've received a couple of envelopes from China where there was a UK
VAT paid sticker on the envelope, although this did not look official.
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In Administrative, Stellar writes:
  […]
The online marketplace must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale,
unless the consignment is a business to business sale and the customer has given
their UK VAT registration number.


“must … unless”

  Business to business sales to UK VAT-registered customers
The online marketplace will not need to charge and account for VAT if the customer
gives them their VAT registration number. The online marketplace can confirm
it’s correct using the online service.

“will not need”

BL can simplify their job and collect the VAT.
A lot of businesses that have more B2C than B2B transactions often do that, especially
for small amounts.


  […]
As Sylvain stated, they might be able to request that VAT back, but that is also
more paperwork.

Without paperwork, the civil servant withers

But there’s not actually much more paperwork to fill when you buy 0% or full
VAT.  Invoices are always the main proof, so, it’s just a couple entries more
in your accounts and an entry in a list of your deductible transactions.

The Sales taxes exemption issue seems to be a much more important problem as
the buyers don’t seem to be able to reclaim credits if there’s no debit.
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Stellar (3477)

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In Administrative, Bad_Girl writes:
  In Administrative, Stellar writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.
Below is an overview of what this will entail.

Changes at a glance:

* The UK will be excluded from the EU country list and will have its own VAT
regime (like Norway). UK buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from EU sellers
and EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from UK sellers. UK buyers will see
VAT inclusive prices from UK sellers only.

* BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

What about orders sold to business not to consumers? The VAT shouldn't be
charged for those.

Why should there be a difference between BTB and BTC? If you are importing something
from outside of the EU, you pay surely also VAT (at customs or at the post office).

I think you still have intra-community deliveries in mind. UK is not part of
the EU.

Take a look here:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces#business

The online marketplace must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale,
unless the consignment is a business to business sale and the customer has given
their UK VAT registration number.


Business to business sales to UK VAT-registered customers
The online marketplace will not need to charge and account for VAT if the customer
gives them their VAT registration number. The online marketplace can confirm
it’s correct using the online service.

The online marketplace can add a note to the invoice (for example, by writing
‘reverse charge: customer to account for VAT to HMRC’) then send it to the UK
business customer.

The business customer will then be responsible for accounting for any VAT due
on their VAT Return if the goods are supplied in:

Great Britain, using a ‘reverse charge’ procedure
Northern Ireland, using Postponed VAT Accounting
In both cases, the seller will be able to recover the VAT as input tax on the
same VAT Return under normal VAT recovery rules.


As Sylvain stated, they might be able to request that VAT back, but that is also
more paperwork.
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In Administrative, Bad_Girl writes:
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  What about orders sold to business not to consumers? The VAT shouldn't be
charged for those.

Why should there be a difference between BTB and BTC? If you are importing something
from outside of the EU, you pay surely also VAT (at customs or at the post office).

I think you still have intra-community deliveries in mind. UK is not part of
the EU.

And the rare UK buyers that are also UK VAT-registered businesses can deduct
the import VAT from their collected VAT.
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In Administrative, Stellar writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.
Below is an overview of what this will entail.

Changes at a glance:

* The UK will be excluded from the EU country list and will have its own VAT
regime (like Norway). UK buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from EU sellers
and EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from UK sellers. UK buyers will see
VAT inclusive prices from UK sellers only.

* BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

What about orders sold to business not to consumers? The VAT shouldn't be
charged for those.

Why should there be a difference between BTB and BTC? If you are importing something
from outside of the EU, you pay surely also VAT (at customs or at the post office).

I think you still have intra-community deliveries in mind. UK is not part of
the EU.

  
  
* UK VAT will be added during the checkout process or at the receipt of the final
invoice and will not be included in the item price.

* Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to a UK delivery
address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.


What this means for you:

* For each qualified transaction, BrickLink will provide a separate VAT invoice
that can be used as proof to customs that VAT has been sufficiently collected.

* In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.

* If you are a non-UK seller and you want to sell goods to UK buyers, you should
opt in to at least one of BrickLink’s onsite payment methods.


An email with this same communication will be sent out later today. For additional
information, please refer to our new Brexit Marketplace Changes Help Page:


https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514


Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.
Below is an overview of what this will entail.

Changes at a glance:

* The UK will be excluded from the EU country list and will have its own VAT
regime (like Norway). UK buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from EU sellers
and EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from UK sellers. UK buyers will see
VAT inclusive prices from UK sellers only.

* BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

What about orders sold to business not to consumers? The VAT shouldn't be
charged for those.

  
* UK VAT will be added during the checkout process or at the receipt of the final
invoice and will not be included in the item price.

* Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to a UK delivery
address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.


What this means for you:

* For each qualified transaction, BrickLink will provide a separate VAT invoice
that can be used as proof to customs that VAT has been sufficiently collected.

* In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.

* If you are a non-UK seller and you want to sell goods to UK buyers, you should
opt in to at least one of BrickLink’s onsite payment methods.


An email with this same communication will be sent out later today. For additional
information, please refer to our new Brexit Marketplace Changes Help Page:


https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514


Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
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1) do you know if sellers have to provide any extra Documentation when sending
to UK?

2) Norway also have "new" rules for import. Bricklink should add VAT for orders
imported to Norway. The rules was applied in 2020, but they've made temporary
exceptions which have been extended due to Corona(Bricklink are within the exception,
but it may suddenly change). Does bricklink have plans for complying to new Norwegian
vat rules as well?
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Hello Russell,

This looks rather good

Thank you,

Good to see we can ship to the UK again without having to explain importcharges


Just 1 question, can we see the printversion of the invoice?
We normally never print out invoices only use the customforms from our carrier,
and i hope these do not take to much unneeded ink and paper,

Again, it looks great,

Janet





In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.
Below is an overview of what this will entail.

Changes at a glance:

* The UK will be excluded from the EU country list and will have its own VAT
regime (like Norway). UK buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from EU sellers
and EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from UK sellers. UK buyers will see
VAT inclusive prices from UK sellers only.

* BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

* UK VAT will be added during the checkout process or at the receipt of the final
invoice and will not be included in the item price.

* Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to a UK delivery
address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.


What this means for you:

* For each qualified transaction, BrickLink will provide a separate VAT invoice
that can be used as proof to customs that VAT has been sufficiently collected.

* In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.

* If you are a non-UK seller and you want to sell goods to UK buyers, you should
opt in to at least one of BrickLink’s onsite payment methods.


An email with this same communication will be sent out later today. For additional
information, please refer to our new Brexit Marketplace Changes Help Page:


https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514


Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
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Dear BrickLink members,

Starting Tuesday May 11, BrickLink will enable VAT collection for goods imported
into the UK and Northern Ireland to comply with the new Brexit marketplace rules.
Below is an overview of what this will entail.

Changes at a glance:

* The UK will be excluded from the EU country list and will have its own VAT
regime (like Norway). UK buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from EU sellers
and EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from UK sellers. UK buyers will see
VAT inclusive prices from UK sellers only.

* BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders up to a value of £135 imported
into the UK and sold to consumers. There will no longer be a VAT exemption for
small consignments up to £15. In this case, the payment method will be restricted
to onsite methods only.

* UK VAT will be added during the checkout process or at the receipt of the final
invoice and will not be included in the item price.

* Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to a UK delivery
address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.


What this means for you:

* For each qualified transaction, BrickLink will provide a separate VAT invoice
that can be used as proof to customs that VAT has been sufficiently collected.

* In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.

* If you are a non-UK seller and you want to sell goods to UK buyers, you should
opt in to at least one of BrickLink’s onsite payment methods.


An email with this same communication will be sent out later today. For additional
information, please refer to our new Brexit Marketplace Changes Help Page:


https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514


Thank you,

The BrickLink Team