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 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 17:53
 Subject: Re: Changing rules of feedback
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Rick_S. (1301)

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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  […]
ShakeyShuffle was a character.

But that doesn’t prevent a member using “ShackyShuffle” (with or without the
‘e’) for their ID here.

Are you Ricky Stratton from Silver Spoons?

Nope
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 17:04
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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  
problem is it is not just bad buyers but bad sellers, my suggestion here was
made because of a seller who left retaliatory feedback for a deserved negative
they had received from a buyer.

But that’s just my point with the ebays feedback system Sellers can’t leave negative
feedback for buyers which means they can’t leave retaliatory feedback in any
shape or form! Meaning the buyer is able to give their honest opinion without
fear of retaliatory feedback!

It’s a change I’ve been calling for some time:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1168664

I feel its only important that we understand how a seller performs(Feedback wise!)
because it goes without saying that there will always be a few difficult customers
and its how sellers deal with those tricky customers that’s important and for
those customers that are impossibly unreasonable they can be reported and dealt
with by Bricklink!

While I do agree such a system would be useful it could also have drawbacks too.

Well every system has drawbacks but presumably the current system has big enough
drawbacks for you to warrant posting your concerns in the first place? Hopefully
any drawbacks you associate with the ebay system will be outweighed with what
you are already experiencing right now with the current system?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:57
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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  […]
ShakeyShuffle was a character.

But that doesn’t prevent a member using “ShackyShuffle” (with or without the
‘e’) for their ID here.

Are you Ricky Stratton from Silver Spoons?
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:35
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Rick_S. (1301)

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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Was ShackyShuffle also HoL? I recall them having similar issues.

I don’t remember that name.
And, of course, the forum history has been long purged.

Not long ago, HouseOfLogos was still listed as a member (I’m not sure if they
were still registred but their name was searchable: I did search because I never
remember if it was Logo or Logos).
But now these members must have become BLUSERs: can’t buy, can’t sell, no reasons
to log in to accept the new ToS.
“Dust: this is carpet; carpet, this is dust. You’ll spend a long time together.”

ShakeyShuffle was a character.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:34
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Location:  USA, California
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  
problem is it is not just bad buyers but bad sellers, my suggestion here was
made because of a seller who left retaliatory feedback for a deserved negative
they had received from a buyer.

But that’s just my point with the ebays feedback system Sellers can’t leave negative
feedback for buyers which means they can’t leave retaliatory feedback in any
shape or form! Meaning the buyer is able to give their honest opinion without
fear of retaliatory feedback!

It’s a change I’ve been calling for some time:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1168664

I feel its only important that we understand how a seller performs(Feedback wise!)
because it goes without saying that there will always be a few difficult customers
and its how sellers deal with those tricky customers that’s important and for
those customers that are impossibly unreasonable they can be reported and dealt
with by Bricklink!

While I do agree such a system would be useful it could also have drawbacks too.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:31
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Location:  USA, California
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Buyer left neutral feedback = error in what you wrote

  Actually there is no error, the synopsis is based on available data. but that
is just one incident it still brings up the issue that retaliatory feedback cannot
be removed and in that, it can cause more issues down the road. and it also prevents
buyers from leaving honest feedback in fear they will receive retaliatory feedback
in response.

Wrong again: it was negative, you notice the negative feedback they left for
Sludgemonster?

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?fdbType=2&p=mjsheller

and it seems this seller is pretty notorious in not being a great seller and
leaving retaliatory feedback too.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:15
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SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Was ShackyShuffle also HoL? I recall them having similar issues.

I don’t remember that name.
And, of course, the forum history has been long purged.

Not long ago, HouseOfLogos was still listed as a member (I’m not sure if they
were still registred but their name was searchable: I did search because I never
remember if it was Logo or Logos).
But now these members must have become BLUSERs: can’t buy, can’t sell, no reasons
to log in to accept the new ToS.
“Dust: this is carpet; carpet, this is dust. You’ll spend a long time together.”
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:07
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infinibrix (4976)

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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  
problem is it is not just bad buyers but bad sellers, my suggestion here was
made because of a seller who left retaliatory feedback for a deserved negative
they had received from a buyer.

But that’s just my point with the ebays feedback system Sellers can’t leave negative
feedback for buyers which means they can’t leave retaliatory feedback in any
shape or form! Meaning the buyer is able to give their honest opinion without
fear of retaliatory feedback!

It’s a change I’ve been calling for some time:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1168664

I feel its only important that we understand how a seller performs(Feedback wise!)
because it goes without saying that there will always be a few difficult customers
and its how sellers deal with those tricky customers that’s important and for
those customers that are impossibly unreasonable they can be reported and dealt
with by Bricklink!
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:06
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Buyer left neutral feedback = error in what you wrote

  Actually there is no error, the synopsis is based on available data. but that
is just one incident it still brings up the issue that retaliatory feedback cannot
be removed and in that, it can cause more issues down the road. and it also prevents
buyers from leaving honest feedback in fear they will receive retaliatory feedback
in response.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 16:03
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Rick_S. (1301)

Location:  USA, California
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Get your facts straight. You even have an error in the incident.

You come back to the forum after all these years and pretend like no one is aware
of what is going on. I read the suggestion and do not see its merits.

The problem is not retaliatory feedback, it is with certain members.

  didn't read the suggestion did ya? the suggestion is to have the opportunity
to have what is known as retaliatory feedback removed, this was brought about
because of an incident that happened which went like this:

Actually there is no error, the synopsis is based on available data. but that
is just one incident it still brings up the issue that retaliatory feedback cannot
be removed and in that, it can cause more issues down the road. and it also prevents
buyers from leaving honest feedback in fear they will receive retaliatory feedback
in response.

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