Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | StormChaser  | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 10:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 76103-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, mickandyp writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3010 Black Brick 1 x 4 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Brick 1 x 4 with White upside down Triangle Pattern (Sticker) - Set 76103. Sticker #2
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First you need to add the part with a sticker to the catalog. You may do that
here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp
Then you need to add an image. You may do that here:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page
Once the new part has been approved, then you can submit an inventory change
request to add it to the set's inventory.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 10:25 | | Subject: | Re: Naginata 41159pb01 two different colors. | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | So the two do look like trans-light blue in the pic, but look darker in real
life. But the other three are obviously trans black which bl has no listing for.
And they as ll came from the titan mech set.
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They are actually supposed to be marbled pieces where the Pearl Dark Gray is
blended with the Trans-Light Blue in the blade. This is most likely what is making
the Trans-Light Blue ones look darker. And you're kind of lucky since many
of them have hardly any Trans-Light Blue in them. However, this is not the first
time I have seen the other ones. I have a feeling that someone at the factory
messed up and ordered a batch of the parts be made with either Trans-Black or
Trans-Clear at one time.
Here is my "pending-being-an-admin-again" opinion on this: I would seriously
suggest creating a new catalog entry for these and adding them as an alternate
to the set, even though the piece was never intended to be made or make it into
official sets. The pieces obviously exist, so we should account for that.
Cheers,
Randy
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It looks like they are correcting an error. Box images and the part list showed
a blue one and we initially used the blue render made by Lego, but people kept
finding them to be barely blue if at all, so we switched pics. I guess Lego
figured out how to get the right ones out there.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 10:07 | | Subject: | Re: Naginata 41159pb01 two different colors. | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | So the two do look like trans-light blue in the pic, but look darker in real
life. But the other three are obviously trans black which bl has no listing for.
And they as ll came from the titan mech set.
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They are actually supposed to be marbled pieces where the Pearl Dark Gray is
blended with the Trans-Light Blue in the blade. This is most likely what is making
the Trans-Light Blue ones look darker. And you're kind of lucky since many
of them have hardly any Trans-Light Blue in them. However, this is not the first
time I have seen the other ones. I have a feeling that someone at the factory
messed up and ordered a batch of the parts be made with either Trans-Black or
Trans-Clear at one time.
Here is my "pending-being-an-admin-again" opinion on this: I would seriously
suggest creating a new catalog entry for these and adding them as an alternate
to the set, even though the piece was never intended to be made or make it into
official sets. The pieces obviously exist, so we should account for that.
Cheers,
Randy
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Thanks for the reply! Though adding a catalog entry and an alternate to a set
is something I've never done before, not sure how to go about it.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 08:20 | | Subject: | Re: Naginata 41159pb01 two different colors. | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | So the two do look like trans-light blue in the pic, but look darker in real
life. But the other three are obviously trans black which bl has no listing for.
And they as ll came from the titan mech set.
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They are actually supposed to be marbled pieces where the Pearl Dark Gray is
blended with the Trans-Light Blue in the blade. This is most likely what is making
the Trans-Light Blue ones look darker. And you're kind of lucky since many
of them have hardly any Trans-Light Blue in them. However, this is not the first
time I have seen the other ones. I have a feeling that someone at the factory
messed up and ordered a batch of the parts be made with either Trans-Black or
Trans-Clear at one time.
Here is my "pending-being-an-admin-again" opinion on this: I would seriously
suggest creating a new catalog entry for these and adding them as an alternate
to the set, even though the piece was never intended to be made or make it into
official sets. The pieces obviously exist, so we should account for that.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | mickandyp | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 07:26 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76103-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3010 Black Brick 1 x 4 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Brick 1 x 4 with White upside down Triangle Pattern (Sticker) - Set 76103. Sticker #2
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 06:41 | | Subject: | Re: Naginata 41159pb01 two different colors. | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| So the two do look like trans-light blue in the pic, but look darker in real
life. But the other three are obviously trans black which bl has no listing for.
And they as ll came from the titan mech set.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 06:32 | | Subject: | Naginata 41159pb01 two different colors. | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| I have 11 new Naginatas all from the Titan Mech set 70676. However, there is
an obvious color difference among them when held up to the light. 5 of them look
trans-black, and the others look trans-dark blue (even the staff of the piece
has a bluish look when held just right in the light).
But the current Bricklink catalog only has Naginatas with a trans-orange blade
and trans-light blue, both of which mine don't fit. Does anyone else with
these pieces notice this color discrepancy? I'm not sure how to list these
pieces as I feel I'd be listing them incorrectly.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 06:15 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set colsh-9 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 92338 Dark Purple Chain 5 Links (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Randy fixed the other extra on this set. I neglected to get them in there.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2020 00:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6543-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length) to x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm}
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 5 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - (Undetermined Connector Version) to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
* Change 4 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
My string is actually 77.5 cm.
Pics to Follow
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The string on my new 7838 is 76cm. This is why the length of wires and strings
should be rather given something like "about 75cm", not "75cm" or not "15 studs".
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That's what the entry means. 75cm means about or at least 75cm long.
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I did not know it meant that and I still don't know what part of the entry
means that neither. I have seen many people confused when listing these wire/assmbely
itmes. Some mentioned in their listing "the wire is 1cm short"...
I meatured 5 wires that comes with wire
and they were 2cm of difference (max length - min length= 2cm)
Not only many people are confused, so were some catalog admins. Here we have
these two entries, probably the same:
[s=765c96]
and
[s=766c94]
The other level of confusion is whether the length of wires include the connectors
or not. I think it is better we do not, because if an item is named something
like
"Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two 2-prong connectors, with wire of approximate
length 40cm"
then we can inventory the item with "wire of approximate length 40cm" so less
confusion. Then the same entry for wire can be used to create other wire/connector
assembly like
"Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two 2-prong connectors without middle pin, with
wire of approximate length 40cm"
or
"Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with male Squared Wide Short Connector and Male Squared
Narrow Long Connector, with wire of approximate length 40cm"
They can all be inventories with
"wire of approximate length 40cm".
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 21:04 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | that is because BrickLink inventories are based on sealed set contents, and they
have features that other systems do not have, such as complete minifig and minifig
part data, stickers, counterparts, and extras. This is the reason that sellers
prefer to part out using BrickLink inventories, even if it means they have to
wait a while.
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Sorry but BL has always been VERY slow when it comes to do inventorys (or rather
the Pending Approval).
Recent example: 40395 - 23 lots aka 67 parts. A set is out since 8 days and even
up on Legos site should be up including part list on BL by now imho.
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Well right now we have a sort of "situation" which is slowing things down more
than normal. But also, that is not really an important set. Nowhere near the
importance of the latest collectible minifigures. If someone has to wait until
February for that one, it's not the end of the world. Besides, like you say,
other sites have it. So let people use those other sites. 
| | I dont know how the policy is about naming other websites (especially now that
TLG owns BL) but the biggest lego moc site has the part list which includes no
stickers, minifigs or any new parts.
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The new Terms of Service include the Discussion Forum Rules, and they haven't
changed. You can name anything you want. Just don't promote a competitor
site.
| | thats no critic of your work Russel just my 2 bricks.
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I don't take criticism personally - this is a community effort.
We could import the data just like Brickset and other places do, but that's
not the kind of inventory data our users have come to expect. BrickLink inventories
first and foremost are for parting out new sets. Because we know what a monkey
wrench it throws into the system when people part out an inventory with an error
in it, we do EVERYTHING we can to prevent an error in an inventory. It has to
be complete, complete, complete, with no errors.
We will not divulge the measures we take to check our inventories, but I will
say that the steps we take are considerable and when an inventory rolls off the
assembly line it is virtually bulletproof. And with our continual updates, it
will remain bulletproof as long as the catalog exists.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 20:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6543-1 | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length) to x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm}
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 5 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - (Undetermined Connector Version) to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
* Change 4 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
My string is actually 77.5 cm.
Pics to Follow
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The string on my new 7838 is 76cm. This is why the length of wires and strings
should be rather given something like "about 75cm", not "75cm" or not "15 studs".
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That's what the entry means. 75cm means about or at least 75cm long.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 20:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6543-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length) to x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm}
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 5 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - (Undetermined Connector Version) to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
* Change 4 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
My string is actually 77.5 cm.
Pics to Follow
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The string on my new 7838 is 76cm. This is why the length of wires and strings
should be rather given something like "about 75cm", not "75cm" or not "15 studs".
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Agreed
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 20:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6543-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length) to x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm}
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 5 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - (Undetermined Connector Version) to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
* Change 4 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
My string is actually 77.5 cm.
Pics to Follow
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The string on my new 7838 is 76cm. This is why the length of wires and strings
should be rather given something like "about 75cm", not "75cm" or not "15 studs".
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 18:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 138-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, wannes. writes:
The volunteer admins are currently on break waiting for the status to be settled
with The Lego Group, so Russell is working alone right now. He's approving
new items and new inventories, but he isn't doing a lot of changes to old
inventories. I don't know what the timeline is, but you may have to wait
until Randy and Paul are back.
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| Author: | wannes. | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 18:33 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 138-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| | Is any one on this? |
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 18:33 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | The way it works is that you or me needs to build an inventory and submit
it.
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the point was not about people not submitting but BL not making inventories available:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPend.asp
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Thanks for clarifying. Everything above seemed to refer to inventories getting
made. For instance the set that we were talking about, 10270, has never been
reserved. The inventory is not pending. No one has decided to do it.
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| Author: | Drudatz | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 18:27 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | The way it works is that you or me needs to build an inventory and submit
it.
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the point was not about people not submitting but BL not making inventories available:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPend.asp
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 17:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6543-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length) to x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm}
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 5 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - (Undetermined Connector Version) to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
* Change 4 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
My string is actually 77.5 cm.
Pics to Follow
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 17:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6543-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length) to x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm}
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 5 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - (Undetermined Connector Version) to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
* Change 4 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
My string is actually 77.5 cm.
Pics to Follow
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 113-2 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with 4.5V stamped on front (match ID 11)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 11}
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This item
[p=bb0007pb01]
existed already in colors black and blue. I am not sure why this motor was recently
added
Perhaps for the extra black plate glued underneath. But I have not seen
[p=bb0007pb01]
without this black plate.
Also, the name of the item bb0007c01pb02 is "...with 4.5 VOLT stamped on front"
but it should be "...with 4.5 V. stamped on front".
I think I will soon request to remove bb0007c01pb02 unless if somebody gives
an evidence that bb0007c01pb02 appeared without this extra glued black plate.
Note that the photo on the catalog cannot be an evidence because the plate could
have separated and fell from the motor.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 16:31 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 113-2 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with 4.5V stamped on front (match ID 11)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 11}
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 15:53 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, FreeStorm writes:
Thanks.
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Turez writes:
It is a guy who is being smacked in the guts with a bar because he stood where
he shouldn't. It is perhaps a "Line of Fire Warning".
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Many thanks, NOW I see it!
(Still wouldn't know how to describe it.)
I really didn't recognize any person on that sticker, I always thought is
is some kind of cutter or mower...
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 15:33 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Turez writes:
| | I agree with you, however, I have the same problem as Marek. I already use an
online dictionary and look for existing similar pattern in the catalog when submitting
new parts, but sometimes that does not help either. In the case of the two liftarms,
I found stickered parts from set 42082 which are also only named "Warning Sign
(#1/#2)". And to be honest, I don't want to spend half an hour to find a
description for a single stickered part. For example, I wouldn't even know
how to call that in German:
Without any technical background, that looks like a bunch of French fries to
me. 
Having said that, I think I will stick to use numbers when I really have no idea
for a better naming and the only alternative would be not to submit the part
at all. But of course you (or anyone else) are welcome to change them to a more
specific description whenever you want and maybe I can learn something from it.
Regards,
Jonas
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It is a guy who is being smacked in the guts with a bar because he stood where
he shouldn't. It is perhaps a "Line of Fire Warning".
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| I agree with you, however, I have the same problem as Marek. I already use an
online dictionary and look for existing similar pattern in the catalog when submitting
new parts, but sometimes that does not help either. In the case of the two liftarms,
I found stickered parts from set 42082 which are also only named "Warning Sign
(#1/#2)". And to be honest, I don't want to spend half an hour to find a
description for a single stickered part. For example, I wouldn't even know
how to call that in German:
Without any technical background, that looks like a bunch of French fries to
me.
Having said that, I think I will stick to use numbers when I really have no idea
for a better naming and the only alternative would be not to submit the part
at all. But of course you (or anyone else) are welcome to change them to a more
specific description whenever you want and maybe I can learn something from it.
Regards,
Jonas
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 15:03 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
might it be better to have the sticker number
instead of 1 and 2. At least that way, there is a method to it.
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Unfortunately in those two above sticker number is the same
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1174612
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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I once submitted a torso something like Torso I seriously have no idea pattern.
Admin must have fixed it, but I don't remember what it was now.
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It was this one
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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I once submitted a torso something like Torso I seriously have no idea pattern.
Admin must have fixed it, but I don't remember what it was now.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
|
Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.
The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.
Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
|
I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:50 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
|
Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
|
Yes exactly as it is visible on sticker sheet
but instruction shows them to be applied like this so they need to be two parts.
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/6282600.pdf
page 122
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
|
Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.
The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.
Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
|
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
|
Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
|
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
|
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:34 | | Subject: | Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 164 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| There seems to be an increasing trend of identifying patterned parts by simply
calling them Pattern 1 and Pattern 2. Here are three random examples of recent
parts, but I could go on for a while.
I would caution against this practice of non-descriptively titling items. In
fact, I was hoping the site would move away from things like this, not more toward.
Although I suppose we could greatly simplify all titles by simply going the Mini
Upper Part "No. 1470" route that TLG uses.
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| Author: | go4bob | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 06:23 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 3186-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3024 Trans-Red Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
|
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 23:29 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | It would've been nice if you and axaday had joined in. Talk about a dream
team of catalog people!
|
This thread confused me and I couldn't think of any way that I could contribute.
I could do inventories the way 62 wants if those were the rules. But like Randy
said, they just aren't the rules. I try to do all of my catalog work in
the way I believe it will be quickly and easily approved.
I understand the place 62 is in. I usually read what he has to say about things.
When I disagree with the admins, I usually do it in private messages. Sometimes
they explain to me what I didn't understand and other times they just explain
that they disagree with me and they get to decide. They sacrifice a lot of time
for the authority they have and that's just the way it is.
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 22:44 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
|
Some of the best reads on the subject of BL’s catalog, are between the members
in this thread:
StormChaser
62Bricks
Hygrotus
jennnifer
When they come together in debate, it’s gold!
TLG, if you’re reading this, covet these individual’s collective knowledge and
passion for the site. Two of which have abdicated their admin positions in said
passion.
|
I would join the discussion, but I have laid out my thoughts, ideas, opinions,
and general method of approach to our catalog and inventory strategies many times
to Don, and he continues to belittle the admins (who aren't paid and give
exceptionally of ourselves to this site) and rant that his opinion is the only
one that matters. Those are truly the personality hallmarks of trying to affect
change!  I understand what he wants, but the admins just settled on a different
means to getting there and I don't believe any of us are going to apologize
for our joint decisions. The decisions require site development, and I am more
hopeful than ever that we can get there once LEGO looks to start developing the
site. Until then, he can rant until he is blue in the face or starts his own
marketplace.
Cheers,
Randy
|
Like I said, passion
Passion is a feeling of intense enthusiasm towards or compelling desire for
someone or something. Passion can range from eager interest in or admiration
for an idea, proposal, or cause; to enthusiastic enjoyment of an interest or
activity...
and frankly it's what make the discussion between you all worth reading.
It would've been nice if you and axaday had joined in. Talk about a dream
team of catalog people!
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 21:47 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In fact, the OP says the inventory should
remain unchanged. What exactly is the issue here?
|
That confused me as well. I know a few other inventories that are also fine
how they are.
|
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 20:45 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | As the admin who personally undid fifteen years worth of past practice on dozens
of former extra part entries, Randy, your input would be most welcome.
|
Please list these "dozens" of former extra part entries for me.
|
And because it might be hard for you to come up with this, I have gone through
all my work since becoming an admin, and these are the entries where I focused
my work that had an effect on extra parts:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[p=4073c01]
on the guidance of Russell (the BrickLink employee who was in charge of the volunteer
admins) to start work he had not got around to. This entry is very far along
in getting corrected in the inventories thanks to many awesome contributors (you
know who you are).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[p=28628c01pb01]
[p=28628c01pb02]
[p=28628c01pb03]
[p=4502c01]
and
[p=6029c01]
because they were the last sprue entries out of 29 in the catalog that did not
follow the conventions that were already in place for the rest of them. With
this work, all sprue entries became consistently handled across the catalog and
inventories. The official guidelines were being codified and put in place at
the same time that this work was being handled.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, seven entries. Definitely not dozens. And out of all of this work, I have
received a total of one complaint. Care to guess who it comes from?
I respect your opinion and I understand it, but I do not want to see the site
go backwards from where it has gotten to with a lot of work from a lot of different
people. You just do not have a forward-thinking approach of the problems with
the current system. I want to see the site keep moving forward, and sometimes
that requires some shakeups and some perseverance. I truly hope LEGO will listen
to where we want to take the inventories system, because it will truly allow
individuals to use the inventories how they want to.
|
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 18:26 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | As the admin who personally undid fifteen years worth of past practice on dozens
of former extra part entries, Randy, your input would be most welcome.
|
Please list these "dozens" of former extra part entries for me.
| | Don't explain it to me - explain it to the OP, who is one of many users here
who is still relying on those years of past practice in determining the difference
between a regular and an extra part. Whatever explaining you may have done to
me, the message apparently has not reached the whole community.
|
The parts the OP is talking about were never handled differently ever, so I don't
know what there is to explain about it. In fact, the OP says the inventory should
remain unchanged. What exactly is the issue here?
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 18:13 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
|
Some of the best reads on the subject of BL’s catalog, are between the members
in this thread:
StormChaser
62Bricks
Hygrotus
jennnifer
When they come together in debate, it’s gold!
TLG, if you’re reading this, covet these individual’s collective knowledge and
passion for the site. Two of which have abdicated their admin positions in said
passion.
|
I would join the discussion, but I have laid out my thoughts, ideas, opinions,
and general method of approach to our catalog and inventory strategies many times
to Don, and he continues to belittle the admins (who aren't paid and give
exceptionally of ourselves to this site) and rant that his opinion is the only
one that matters. Those are truly the personality hallmarks of trying to affect
change! I understand what he wants, but the admins just settled on a different
means to getting there and I don't believe any of us are going to apologize
for our joint decisions. The decisions require site development, and I am more
hopeful than ever that we can get there once LEGO looks to start developing the
site. Until then, he can rant until he is blue in the face or starts his own
marketplace.
Cheers,
Randy
|
As the admin who personally undid fifteen years worth of past practice on dozens
of former extra part entries, Randy, your input would be most welcome.
Don't explain it to me - explain it to the OP, who is one of many users here
who is still relying on those years of past practice in determining the difference
between a regular and an extra part. Whatever explaining you may have done to
me, the message apparently has not reached the whole community.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
|
Some of the best reads on the subject of BL’s catalog, are between the members
in this thread:
StormChaser
62Bricks
Hygrotus
jennnifer
When they come together in debate, it’s gold!
TLG, if you’re reading this, covet these individual’s collective knowledge and
passion for the site. Two of which have abdicated their admin positions in said
passion.
|
I would join the discussion, but I have laid out my thoughts, ideas, opinions,
and general method of approach to our catalog and inventory strategies many times
to Don, and he continues to belittle the admins (who aren't paid and give
exceptionally of ourselves to this site) and rant that his opinion is the only
one that matters. Those are truly the personality hallmarks of trying to affect
change! I understand what he wants, but the admins just settled on a different
means to getting there and I don't believe any of us are going to apologize
for our joint decisions. The decisions require site development, and I am more
hopeful than ever that we can get there once LEGO looks to start developing the
site. Until then, he can rant until he is blue in the face or starts his own
marketplace.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Another inconsistency | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, dcarmine writes:
| | Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.
I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars
For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.
After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.
Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.
Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.
Donna
|
I'm replying since there is a silent finger pointing me
I didn't decide. When I am doing an inventory and there is a controversial
issue, I ask ahead. Because I don't want to take and edit a picture and
then be asked to redo it. A Catalog Admin with a particular interest in Star
Wars guided me. But the rationale isn't really hard to follow. The mouse
droid and GONK droid in the 2019 calendar are very far from the first Mouse and
Gonk and all the others are minifigs. So they are handled like other minifigs.
But the porg and the mynock are not the first porg and mynock either. They
were both in where they are also listed as pieces and then counter
parted as complete assemblies. Just like the brick built animals in
and the dragon in . As far as I know, dinosaurs are the only ones
that appear assembled in the main part of inventories. I don't know why
that is, but I think the answer to your question is just why isn't a porg
a minifig, right? I would have been glad to make it one, but the reason that
it isn't is because it is an animal.
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 15:27 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60153-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Odur writes:
| | * Delete 1 Part (Extra)
* Delete 1 Part (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Inventory from a new sealed set
|
Have you checked all new sealed sets to verify that these extra parts never came
in any of them?
|
|
| Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 15:25 | | Subject: | Another inconsistency | | Viewed: | 163 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.
I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars
For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.
After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.
Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.
Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.
Donna
|
|
| Author: | Odur | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 14:36 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60153-1 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 2599a Lime Minifigure, Footgear Flipper (Extra)
* Delete 1 Part 32918 Trans-Clear Plastic Triangle 6 x 12 Sail with Dark Blue Wave in Circle and Dark Azure, Dark Blue and Green Markings Pattern (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Inventory from a new sealed set
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 14:00 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, jennnifer writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
The printed parts list is the only thing that matters. It is a widespread misunderstanding
that the regular section of the inventory lists the parts needed to complete
the set according to the instructions.
|
Wow, this is a pretty bold incorrect assertion. I was an inventory admin for
three years. The building instructions are the ultimate source for accurate inventories.
Not every set follows every rule, but that is where everything starts.
Jen
|
This does not fit with the current policy that it is the box contents, not the
building instructions, that are the basis of the inventories.
And if a part is present in the parts list but not in the building instructions,
it will be included in the regular items. In other words, the parts list overrules
the building instructions. So do other policies, like the one covering parts
on sprues.
I believe you that the former actual practice was to base the regular parts section
on the building instructions. You can see evidence of this in the change logs
of some parts that have been moved from regular to extra (like the small plumes).
That appears not to have been in compliance with the policy as it is now being
enforced, so despite it having been the actual practice, and despite the fact
that many longtime Bricklinkers still believe it to be the practice, it is not
the case, and those parts have been put back in the regular section. For many
of these sets, there is now no information on Bricklink indicating what parts
are included in the building instructions.
|
|
| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
|
Some of the best reads on the subject of BL’s catalog, are between the members
in this thread:
StormChaser
62Bricks
Hygrotus
jennnifer
When they come together in debate, it’s gold!
TLG, if you’re reading this, covet these individual’s collective knowledge and
passion for the site. Two of which have abdicated their admin positions in said
passion.
|
|
| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
The printed parts list is the only thing that matters. It is a widespread misunderstanding
that the regular section of the inventory lists the parts needed to complete
the set according to the instructions.
|
Wow, this is a pretty bold incorrect assertion. I was an inventory admin for
three years. The building instructions are the ultimate source for accurate inventories.
Not every set follows every rule, but that is where everything starts.
Jen
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The parts list determines whether a part is extra or not, and not the building instructions.
|
In this recent set, yes:
In this recent set, no:
So there is an inconsistent approach.
Nevertheless, we need the ability to display and use inventories in different
ways based on the needs of the person viewing that inventory. You don't
think so, because you want inventories to be structured in the specific way that
you feel is best for users of the site.
Why not just agree with me that inventories can do more than the system currently
allows and join me in the push for customizable inventories?
|
This feels like a false choice. Of course we would all like to see greater convenience
and functionality, but that does not mean we should allow information and functionality
to be removed now in the hope that someday we'll have a system
that lets us put it back. How about we use the existing functionality,
which will support all the information people want, including the full box contents
as they were packaged as well as the parts that form a "complete" set, and then
when (if) those extra features come along we can talk about how to use them?
Because we have put the cart firmly before the horse, here. There are thousands
of complete set listings right now that do not include all the parts Bricklink
says they should - some of them quite expensive parts. This is not due to any
error or wrongdoing by the sellers. It is purely the result of inventory changes
that have been made to accord with bad policies. I don't hear anybody really
defending that. I'm not surprised, as it seems indefensible.
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The parts list determines whether a part is extra or not, and not the building instructions.
|
In this recent set, yes:
In this recent set, no:
So there is an inconsistent approach.
Nevertheless, we need the ability to display and use inventories in different
ways based on the needs of the person viewing that inventory. You don't
think so, because you want inventories to be structured in the specific way that
you feel is best for users of the site.
Why not just agree with me that inventories can do more than the system currently
allows and join me in the push for customizable inventories?
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 12:10 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Nobody disputes that if three darts came in the
box, three darts should appear somewhere on the inventory page for the set. However
as is demonstrated by the existence of this thread, there are many people who
have come to understand that the regular section represents only the parts included
in the building instructions. For purposes of classifying parts within the inventory,
|
For the record about this set. Instruction clearly shows three darts being used
in build process (step 101, so this is not an extra part)
|
Yes, the OP is correct, but for the wrong reason. The inventory would still be
"correct" even if the instructions only showed the two darts that can be held
by the model, because there are three darts in the parts list. The parts list
determines whether a part is extra or not, and not the building instructions.
|
|
| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 11:51 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Nobody disputes that if three darts came in the
box, three darts should appear somewhere on the inventory page for the set. However
as is demonstrated by the existence of this thread, there are many people who
have come to understand that the regular section represents only the parts included
in the building instructions. For purposes of classifying parts within the inventory,
|
For the record about this set. Instruction clearly shows three darts being used
in build process (step 101, so this is not an extra part)
|
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| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 11:39 | | Subject: | Please include Tax field when download orders | | Viewed: | 120 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| I recently dowloaded my orders in Excel format here:
https://www.bricklink.com/orderExcel.asp?orderType=received
I've done this before but I am now making a concerted effort to import this
into my own database primarily for tax purposes. I just realized that the process
imports every field except for Tax. Surely this was an oversight since the tax
field was added later. However it is frustrating because it means I still have
to manually search out every Minnesota order manually to calculate my total 2019
sales tax collected.
Surely this will be an easy fix and it can be corrected promptly!
Thank you,
-Chris
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 11:33 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
|
That is absolutely false. From BrickLink guidelines for what should be included
in the Regular Items section of an inventory:
"Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models plus
any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official parts
list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the packaging
are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section."
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| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The printed parts list is the only thing that matters.
|
That is absolutely false. From the Standards for Inventorying a Set section,
which explicitly states that the source of an inventory should be a physical
copy of a set:
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You have forgotten to boldface plus any other parts on the official parts
list.
Since there will be no parts in the building instructions that are not also on
the parts list, the parts list is all that matters.
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"You should have a physical copy of the set you are inventorying to properly
identify the parts and colors. When this is not possible for old or rare sets,
then it is acceptable to use the instructions, set picture, or parts list (sometimes
printed on the box or in the instructions) to complete the inventory."
I hope the following sentence clears the confusion:
BrickLink inventories are based on what actually came in the box or bag.
Parts lists have errors. Set photos have errors. Building instructions have
errors. You like the idea of simple, straightforward, commonsense guidelines,
Don. Well, the sentence in bold text above is as simple and as sensible as you
can possibly get and you should applaud this if you stand behind your principles.
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As I have pointed out elsewhere, packing a lot of vagueness into a short statement
does not make it more simple. "Based on" is the slippery term, here.
You are playing fast and loose with the definition of "inventory." The discussion
here is not about the complete inventory page, but in what section the parts
appear within that inventory. Nobody disputes that if three darts came in the
box, three darts should appear somewhere on the inventory page for the set. However
as is demonstrated by the existence of this thread, there are many people who
have come to understand that the regular section represents only the parts included
in the building instructions. For purposes of classifying parts within the inventory,
the building instructions do not matter.
| |
I understand and have participated in the debate about how to best represent
what came in the box or bag, but saying that BrickLink bases inventories on the
parts list only and that inventories are not based on the building instructions
at all is spreading misinformation.
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I disagree. The building instructions are not used to determine whether a part
is in the Extras sections or the Regular section. The parts list is used for
this determination. The building instructions do not matter.
Where the building instructions do matter is in the determination of a
"complete" set. Unfortunately, since the fairly recent romp through the inventories,
Bricklink is no longer a reference point for this information. It is now up to
each individual seller to verify their own complete set listing against the building
instructions. It takes about thirty seconds to amass thousands of listings for
used, complete sets with the remarks that they do not include the "extras." What
sellers almost always mean by "extras" is "the parts listed in the Extras section
of the inventory."
The admins know this, but the official response is, well, you know, it says at
the bottom of the page the inventory is just a guide, so, you know, let's
just pretend that our actions have no consequences and make with the change requests.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 10:48 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
|
That is absolutely false. From BrickLink guidelines for what should be included
in the Regular Items section of an inventory:
"Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models plus
any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official parts
list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the packaging
are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section."
In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The printed parts list is the only thing that matters.
|
That is absolutely false. From the Standards for Inventorying a Set section,
which explicitly states that the source of an inventory should be a physical
copy of a set:
"You should have a physical copy of the set you are inventorying to properly
identify the parts and colors. When this is not possible for old or rare sets,
then it is acceptable to use the instructions, set picture, or parts list (sometimes
printed on the box or in the instructions) to complete the inventory."
I hope the following sentence clears the confusion:
BrickLink inventories are based on what actually came in the box or bag.
Parts lists have errors. Set photos have errors. Building instructions have
errors. You like the idea of simple, straightforward, commonsense guidelines,
Don. Well, the sentence in bold text above is as simple and as sensible as you
can possibly get and you should applaud this if you stand behind your principles.
I understand and have participated in the debate about how to best represent
what came in the box or bag, but saying that BrickLink bases inventories on the
parts list only and that inventories are not based on the building instructions
at all is spreading misinformation.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
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Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
The printed parts list is the only thing that matters. It is a widespread misunderstanding
that the regular section of the inventory lists the parts needed to complete
the set according to the instructions.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 07:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60020-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} {Counterpart to Regular}
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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Another one where 3794 should not be deleted but changed to 3794a. First, 3794
was added as an alternate indicating that it was intended to be 3794a. And second,
this screenshot from a video review clearly shows 3794a.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 07:34 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60025-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 3 Part 3794b Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 5 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 3 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 5 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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Part 3794 in red should not be removed from this set. It should be changed to
3794a because both variants were found in this set. Several video reviews of
the set show 3794a. Included a screenshot from one of them that clearly shows
it.
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 04:39 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60042-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | Dino | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 03:40 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
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All three are listed. But only two were used. There is no place for the third
one.
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| Author: | foxweasle | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 02:52 | | Subject: | Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 191 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 02:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60178-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, TuffyJCW writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6239 Black Tail Shuttle (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
There is no entry in inventory for the 6239 Tail Decorated with sticker #2 and #6.
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First you must add the items to the catalog here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp
Then add images here:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page
Once the new items are approved, then you may add them to the inventory of this
set.
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
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The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
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It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
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And since it's one and the same company, they have the same software, which
probably sync both inventories at the same time.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 00:15 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
|
The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
|
It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
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| Author: | CamelCityBH | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 22:50 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60178-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6239 Black Tail Shuttle (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
There is no entry in inventory for the 6239 Tail Decorated with sticker #2 and #6.
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 21:01 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
| | some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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Some statistics of average price, total sold, total available et cetera are calculated
during the daily maintenance and hence may differ slightly from the actual items
for sale. This especially shows for rare items that have just been sold or added
to inventories.
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Ive just checked the same part again today and same issue. So its not the updating
of daily maintenance.
Admin - another bug ?
Yogi
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| Author: | Tom_a_Jerry | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 18:38 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75194-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 58176 Trans-Red Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Hi, I've built this set from a sealed box and found one extra part not displayed in the inventory, so I'm reporting it.
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| Author: | Mortimer | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 18:28 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76073-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4624 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
From MISB set.
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| Author: | BigHero6 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| Thank You for Your Answer. I have read it, but it was not plausible to me. But
now it is clear. It listet all the parts from Both Sets. So there are 31.
Thank You again.
In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
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Hello,
I think the the answer for you 2nd question is on the note at the bottom of Inventory:
Regarding the curved conducting rails included in this set, the timeline for
inclusion in sets is believed to be as follows:
1980: 16 of part 3241b Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable
Connection Holes shown in the Regular Items section
1981: 16 of part 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved shown in the
Alternate Items section
1982: 15 of part 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, 1 of part
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free and 1 of part
117983a Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 shown in the
Alternate Items section
-Fred
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| Author: | BigHero6 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 14:42 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| Thank You so much. That helps a lot! I am new here at the forum. I took my old
LEGO from the 80's from my Brother. And now I try to find out, what was in
the Set and what not.
Again. Thank You.
In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
|
The most accurate inventory for this train and other vintage trains (and most
other vintage sets) is Bricklink.
Concerning the wire, see the discussion and the photos on the bottom of this
page:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=234421
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:19 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60020-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} {Counterpart to Regular}
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:14 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60026-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:09 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60025-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 3 Part 3794b Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 5 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 3 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 5 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, 62Bricks writes:
| | This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
|
So you believe that a set inventory should contain only the parts required to
construct the set per instructions and anything else included in the box should
be considered an extra? I'm not asking to argue, but just to understand
your position.
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This is already Bricklink's position. A complete set is one that includes
all the parts required to construct the set per instructions. It's not my
opinion, it's Bricklink's definition. And despite Russell's claims
to the contrary, it has been the de facto practice on Bricklink that the
regular parts section represents the complete set. Anyone who claims that this
was not the case (or that it is still not the case) is making excuses,
I believe.
| |
And how does your vision align with that significant fraction of sets which included
no building instructions? How would we address those sets without rules and
exceptions, to which you're mildly allergic?
|
Again, Bricklink's current definition of a complete set is based on the instructions
and the current policy for sets without them already applies.
| |
If the site has removed certain information, such as what is required to build
the set, it has added other information: exactly what comes in a new box.
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| |
Again with the horses, it is possible to have an inventory both ways. Just needs
additional inventory functionality that doesn't rely so heavily on "sections."
And yes, I'm aware that you disagree with that. But since we've trotted
out our horses, I'm gonna abuse mine a little, too.
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No, additional inventory functionality is not required to have it both
ways. In the case of plumes and other parts on sprues:
- Those needed to complete the set according to the instructions go in the regular
section as individual parts.
- Those not needed go in the extras section as individual parts
- The sprue part goes in the counterparts.
That preserves all of the historical information, eliminates the current contradiction
between the definitions of regular parts and complete sets, and as an added bonus
makes freaking sense.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, 62Bricks writes:
| | This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
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So you believe that a set inventory should contain only the parts required to
construct the set per instructions and anything else included in the box should
be considered an extra? I'm not asking to argue, but just to understand
your position.
And how does your vision align with that significant fraction of sets which included
no building instructions? How would we address those sets without rules and
exceptions, to which you're mildly allergic?
If the site has removed certain information, such as what is required to build
the set, it has added other information: exactly what comes in a new box.
Again with the horses, it is possible to have an inventory both ways. Just needs
additional inventory functionality that doesn't rely so heavily on "sections."
And yes, I'm aware that you disagree with that. But since we've trotted
out our horses, I'm gonna abuse mine a little, too.
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What if there were:
— Main or Build (parts used to build the main model)
— Regulars (parts always included in the set)
— Extras (supernumerary parts)
?
And then:
(— Incomplete)
— Complete for main model only
— Complete for all models
— Complete with extras
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, 62Bricks writes:
| | This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
|
So you believe that a set inventory should contain only the parts required to
construct the set per instructions and anything else included in the box should
be considered an extra? I'm not asking to argue, but just to understand
your position.
And how does your vision align with that significant fraction of sets which included
no building instructions? How would we address those sets without rules and
exceptions, to which you're mildly allergic?
If the site has removed certain information, such as what is required to build
the set, it has added other information: exactly what comes in a new box.
Again with the horses, it is possible to have an inventory both ways. Just needs
additional inventory functionality that doesn't rely so heavily on "sections."
And yes, I'm aware that you disagree with that. But since we've trotted
out our horses, I'm gonna abuse mine a little, too.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Since we cannot add it to the regular section, I guess we can still have it in
the counterpart section.
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The definition of counterparts:
Counterparts - Parts which are either assembled from or permanently
changed from parts in the Regular Items section during the process of building
a set according to the instructions. Examples include parts with stickers applied
and cut pneumatic hoses. In the absence of instructions, exceptions may be made.
Refer to Additional Information About Counterparts for further details.
Parts on sprues are addressed in the Additional Information About Regular Items
section here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
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Another chance to flog this horse.
Some of these plumes are quite expensive: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=4502a&colorID=11
The misguided policy that says all parts on sprues are now regular items means
that many of these plumes that were formerly considered "extras" and therefore
not required to be included in a "complete" set are now required per the Bricklink
policies.
$15-$20 is a significant difference in value.
And these changes have resulted in several listings like the ones below, which
were listed correctly as "complete" under the old policy, but which are now incorrect.
One wonders how many of the "complete" sets that do not have any comments also
do not include the former "extras."
This set sells used, complete, for around the same price as one of the small
black plumes alone.
This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
and has created the potential for real confusion and unhappiness between buyers
and sellers (Where's the black plume that Bricklink says should be included?).
It is a bad policy.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 11:04 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Since we cannot add it to the regular section, I guess we can still have it in
the counterpart section.
|
The definition of counterparts:
Counterparts - Parts which are either assembled from or permanently
changed from parts in the Regular Items section during the process of building
a set according to the instructions. Examples include parts with stickers applied
and cut pneumatic hoses. In the absence of instructions, exceptions may be made.
Refer to Additional Information About Counterparts for further details.
Parts on sprues are addressed in the Additional Information About Regular Items
section here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 08:29 | | Subject: | Re: Ability to identify parts for a specific set | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, HillbillyBricks writes:
| | How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set.
|
On your My Inventory page in the extra options Search My Inventory you can enter
a set number.
| | In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to knw what those parts are.
|
Check the option Show Items in My Inventory to see if you've got the items
in your inventory on the Catalog page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P
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We used to have the ability to do this with a shop's listings, too. You could
see what parts from a set were for sale at any shop. That feature broke when
the site was redesigned and has not been fixed. It would be nice to have it back.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 08:15 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4502c01 Yellow Minifigure, Plume / Feather Wheel, 3 on Sprue (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Vosblokjes | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 06:17 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
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The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 06:09 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
Some statistics of average price, total sold, total available et cetera are calculated
during the daily maintenance and hence may differ slightly from the actual items
for sale. This especially shows for rare items that have just been sold or added
to inventories.
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| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 05:44 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 05:30 | | Subject: | catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
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| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 05:17 | | Subject: | Re: Ability to identify parts for a specific set | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, HillbillyBricks writes:
| | How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set.
|
On your My Inventory page in the extra options Search My Inventory you can enter
a set number.
| | In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to knw what those parts are.
|
Check the option Show Items in My Inventory to see if you've got the items
in your inventory on the Catalog page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P
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| Author: | HillbillyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 04:37 | | Subject: | Ability to identify parts for a specific set | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set. In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to knw what those parts are.
|
| Author: | DmitryD | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Taj Mahal 10256 too much extra parts? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| thanks guys, you helped me alot!
Actually I double checked but still wasn't quiet sure as I have a lot on
my mind right now (don't we all?)
thanks again!
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:50 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Duq writes:
| | Element 6286835 is 28870 in black, not medium azure.
|
Stormchaser requested the change. I confirm from my instruction book.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
|
The most accurate inventory for this train and other vintage trains (and most
other vintage sets) is Bricklink.
Concerning the wire, see the discussion and the photos on the bottom of this
page:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=234421
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
|
The most accurate inventory for this train and other vintage trains (and most
other vintage sets) is Bricklink.
Concerning the wire, see the discussion and the photos on the bottom of this
page:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=234421
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:26 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | (sadly BL is the worst side speed wise when it comes to adding inventories...)
|
If you were tasked with identifying a reason for this, keeping in mind the source
of BrickLink inventories, from where would you discover that the problem originates?
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Sorry I have no idea how BL works behind the scenes so I cant answer that but
I hope that the work with the TLG will speed up those things
|
The way it works is that you or me needs to build an inventory and submit
it. So far this year I have done and the
whole DC CMF series. Next up will be and
all on their way to me in the mail.
How does your plate look?
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| Author: | Drudatz | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | (sadly BL is the worst side speed wise when it comes to adding inventories...)
|
If you were tasked with identifying a reason for this, keeping in mind the source
of BrickLink inventories, from where would you discover that the problem originates?
|
Sorry I have no idea how BL works behind the scenes so I cant answer that but
I hope that the work with the TLG will speed up those things
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| Author: | Drudatz | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:02 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | that is because BrickLink inventories are based on sealed set contents, and they
have features that other systems do not have, such as complete minifig and minifig
part data, stickers, counterparts, and extras. This is the reason that sellers
prefer to part out using BrickLink inventories, even if it means they have to
wait a while.
|
Sorry but BL has always been VERY slow when it comes to do inventorys (or rather
the Pending Approval).
Recent example: 40395 - 23 lots aka 67 parts. A set is out since 8 days and even
up on Legos site should be up including part list on BL by now imho.
I dont know how the policy is about naming other websites (especially now that
TLG owns BL) but the biggest lego moc site has the part list which includes no
stickers, minifigs or any new parts.
thats no critic of your work Russel just my 2 bricks.
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| Author: | FreeStorm | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
|
Hello,
I think the the answer for you 2nd question is on the note at the bottom of Inventory:
Regarding the curved conducting rails included in this set, the timeline for
inclusion in sets is believed to be as follows:
1980: 16 of part 3241b Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable
Connection Holes shown in the Regular Items section
1981: 16 of part 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved shown in the
Alternate Items section
1982: 15 of part 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, 1 of part
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free and 1 of part
117983a Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 shown in the
Alternate Items section
-Fred
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 14:08 | | Subject: | Re: Taj Mahal 10256 too much extra parts? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, DmitryD writes:
| | Hi,
maybe it will sound strange but after a long, long break I've returned to
my youth craze and bought the Lego Taj MahaL.
Now it really matters to me to build by the instructions, means I want the build
to be 100% as intended. While I still haven't finished the build, I have
6 extra 1X1 transparent plate (3024). I've looked at the extra's inventory
on this site and damn it. I haven't seen those 6 extra parts listed
Now it drives me crazy, I retraced my steps but I haven't noticed that I
missed something. How that could be? is there a possibility the inventory list
on this site isn't right?
Thanks in advance!
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As others mentioned, probably extras. But you can always tear it down and start
again!
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| Author: | Brick.Door | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 13:44 | | Subject: | Re: Taj Mahal 10256 too much extra parts? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, DmitryD writes:
| | Hi,
maybe it will sound strange but after a long, long break I've returned to
my youth craze and bought the Lego Taj MahaL.
Now it really matters to me to build by the instructions, means I want the build
to be 100% as intended. While I still haven't finished the build, I have
6 extra 1X1 transparent plate (3024). I've looked at the extra's inventory
on this site and damn it. I haven't seen those 6 extra parts listed
Now it drives me crazy, I retraced my steps but I haven't noticed that I
missed something. How that could be? is there a possibility the inventory list
on this site isn't right?
Thanks in advance!
|
Don't worry about it. This is a piece that normally has extras included,
but the extra parts can vary by production batch.For extra pieces, the Bricklink
inventory is a guide only and your contents may be different.
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