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 Author: j7r7o7c7k7 View Messages Posted By j7r7o7c7k7
 Posted: Jan 15, 2017 23:17
 Subject: Bricklink clean up improperly listed items!
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j7r7o7c7k7 (135)

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There are already rules in place for this. But I see it time and time again.

New - was built once and displayed.
Complete - missing figs, missing this part, different color on this part.
Sealed - box opened to verify contents.

There are several others, fakes listed under real. etc etc etc

Im sure others here can post about others things like this that are wrong.


But the rules are there, can you guys start cleaning them up? We shouldn't
have to report ever one we see. And there is a good chance if a seller listed
one wrong they have more. And its not just a mis-click. I would think there would
be some kinda search on you guys end where you can put complete and missing in
the same search and could clear up a ton of the bad listings. Maybe not, but
can it be worked on? Cause what good is clicking the exclude incomplete if its
listed as complete. Or looking at new if the used is listed as new. You have
the rules, enforce them!!!!
 Author: bb373892 View Messages Posted By bb373892
 Posted: Jan 22, 2017 16:50
 Subject: Re: Bricklink clean up improperly listed items!
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In Suggestions, j7r7o7c7k7 writes:
  There are already rules in place for this. But I see it time and time again.

New - was built once and displayed.
Complete - missing figs, missing this part, different color on this part.
Sealed - box opened to verify contents.

There are several others, fakes listed under real. etc etc etc

Im sure others here can post about others things like this that are wrong.


But the rules are there, can you guys start cleaning them up? We shouldn't
have to report ever one we see. And there is a good chance if a seller listed
one wrong they have more. And its not just a mis-click. I would think there would
be some kinda search on you guys end where you can put complete and missing in
the same search and could clear up a ton of the bad listings. Maybe not, but
can it be worked on? Cause what good is clicking the exclude incomplete if its
listed as complete. Or looking at new if the used is listed as new. You have
the rules, enforce them!!!!

It's a shame this was discarded. I see a LOT of value in this idea, quite
frankly.

I would assume it's a matter of cost - is the labor available to police seller
listings? Could that be offset by some code that searches for items listed as
complete but have a comment with "missing" tagged to it? Sealed with "open/opened"
tagged to it? That could be a compromise (until people figure out alternative
words to use).

Maybe another alternative is to instead focus on enforcement/punishment if reported
on, as some (not all - some people are just jerks - but def some!) may be based
on seller misunderstanding or not bothering to read the rules.

First time reported/caught: a polite warning (upon admin verification of the
problem). If not resolved within 30 days, that store is locked by admin until
resolved. Second time reported/caught: if more than a single item (I can see
someone accidentally missing an item the first fix if they have a lot), your
store is locked for 30-60 days automatically. Hey, you KNEW. Third time caught:
if admin review shows willing violation, the store is shut down and username/email
address banned.

I have to guess Bricklink has limited funds from our fees so have to balance
labor spent on this vs. labor spent on new features, etc. A level playing field
is important though!
 Author: j7r7o7c7k7 View Messages Posted By j7r7o7c7k7
 Posted: Jan 22, 2017 17:27
 Subject: Re: Bricklink clean up improperly listed items!
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Suggestions, calibrick writes:
  In Suggestions, j7r7o7c7k7 writes:
  There are already rules in place for this. But I see it time and time again.

New - was built once and displayed.
Complete - missing figs, missing this part, different color on this part.
Sealed - box opened to verify contents.

There are several others, fakes listed under real. etc etc etc

Im sure others here can post about others things like this that are wrong.


But the rules are there, can you guys start cleaning them up? We shouldn't
have to report ever one we see. And there is a good chance if a seller listed
one wrong they have more. And its not just a mis-click. I would think there would
be some kinda search on you guys end where you can put complete and missing in
the same search and could clear up a ton of the bad listings. Maybe not, but
can it be worked on? Cause what good is clicking the exclude incomplete if its
listed as complete. Or looking at new if the used is listed as new. You have
the rules, enforce them!!!!

It's a shame this was discarded. I see a LOT of value in this idea, quite
frankly.

I would assume it's a matter of cost - is the labor available to police seller
listings? Could that be offset by some code that searches for items listed as
complete but have a comment with "missing" tagged to it? Sealed with "open/opened"
tagged to it? That could be a compromise (until people figure out alternative
words to use).

Maybe another alternative is to instead focus on enforcement/punishment if reported
on, as some (not all - some people are just jerks - but def some!) may be based
on seller misunderstanding or not bothering to read the rules.

First time reported/caught: a polite warning (upon admin verification of the
problem). If not resolved within 30 days, that store is locked by admin until
resolved. Second time reported/caught: if more than a single item (I can see
someone accidentally missing an item the first fix if they have a lot), your
store is locked for 30-60 days automatically. Hey, you KNEW. Third time caught:
if admin review shows willing violation, the store is shut down and username/email
address banned.

I have to guess Bricklink has limited funds from our fees so have to balance
labor spent on this vs. labor spent on new features, etc. A level playing field
is important though!

Yea the ban thing might be a little harsh but if there are real abusers then
little the punishment fit the crime. Its very easy to be listing sealed sets
and then list a used and forget to click. Or its late and you click the wrong
thing. But those will be stores that only have 1-2 listings like this. When you
check a store and they have 50+ 100+ or more of these type listings it is no
misclick. They need to figure out a way to get rid of this stuff, other then
just relying on people on here to help them out and let them know each time.
Unless they want to give a little kick back for each one (very doubtful) The
price guide is so out of wack its BAD and I mean BAD! If needs cleaned up, so
people actually have a idea what to pay when buying and what to price at when
selling. And the really big thing it is a clear violation of the rules. And im
in no way talking about those 1 off things like a misclick. We all make mistakes,
its those people that know they are doing it but just trying to get over on people.
And where its really hurts everyone is when it burns a new buyer that doesn't
understand the games being played. And how to look up everything and figure it
out. The real seasoned people on here know and can spot it a lot of times. But
if this is your first time and you don't know all the rules and ins and out,
and you get burned. Guess what there is a really good chance you leave and NEVER
come back. How many buyers have we lost on here that something like this happend
on there very first deal? I am guessing a LOT. A number that any of us on here
don't want to know about. But its like why have rules at all? Just do what
ever the hell you want on here, no one is enforcing the rules. Just get rid of
them just takeing of space and just a waste of words. lol Not mad here, just
more like WOW.
 Author: Brockmeister View Messages Posted By Brockmeister
 Posted: Jan 22, 2017 18:57
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